600 watt hps 8 plants?

cloudyharvest

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so these are the 2 mothers i clonedfrom and am flowering! take a good look at the ladys...they look pretty yellow/light green to me!?plants are a bit difference in color dispite same schedule..watered on friday plain h2o....any thoughts? i added just straight water that sat out for a few days!!noticed leaves were "soft like"...today....light leaves on lower branches! i topped and got 4 nice tops on 1 lady...some lst as well.....topped and bent over plant thats really bushy..looks like maybe bigger pot tomm..!o check the fan..light....filter look right?:joint::joint::peace:
added just water...no more soft looking leaves....any one see the pics i will post another1 on a plant problem thread!
 

cloudyharvest

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wonder woman they look really light in color......i adjusted the ph of the water i plan on using when i transplant later today into bigger pots! do i need to recheck ph after i add nutes? botanicare brand......hydro store said natural buffers true? also im going to nute em up....c a diff tomm i hope!:)
 

cloudyharvest

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ok so i re-potted all clones into 2 1/2 gallon pots...the 2 mothers pictured above have been put into 3 1/2 gallon pots....i hope to see healthy-er mother plants in the am tomm! also i am using foxfam soil and promix mixed together with a bit of perlite! my temps are low high 70s to low 80s as for humidity its about 45-60 at best .......i bought a pool ph test kit today for the water..the test showed the ph to be a bit high so now its about 6.8 judging by the stupid chart attached to tube!....idk about soil which is my concern the 2 meters i have i decided were more danmaging than useful!.....so now i have 6 reppotted clones in the veg box ....other 2 clones(which woulda made 8 didnt look healthy so ididnt waste time energy and space on em!check in soon ill post pics!! im gunna use uncle bens topping technique i think on every plant i grow from now on...seems more erginomical and light efficent to have 4 tops and no side branches for better space management! ttyl grow world
 

cloudyharvest

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I would, my water out of tap is usually around 7.1 when I add my FF nute's it drops to 5.3 easy then the run off out of my plants was 4.3 last night! :shock:
ok well my dropper ph test kit is based on the theory i think that the water will be clear....so how can i test water after i added nutes? ph sticks

raw buzski you have any advice for the yellowing im experincing..im freaking out cuz i havent encountered this problem yet!
 

[420]Haze

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ideally you should aim at a 1m x 1m space per 600w, you can snuggly fit in 4 nice plants in a 1m x 1m space.
 

cloudyharvest

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well thanks for the late advice....clearly im not going to listen since i already have built and started everything......thans tho!
 

SwiftGrow

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I think 6-8 plants in your area is fine you will not have much work room but since it small area you can come at it from different angles. You wanna know if your lighting is optimal just do simple math. 3,000-6,000 lumens per square foot is optimal. Simple cheat sheet is take your lumens output and divide by floor space. Not an detailed answer but give you good idea if you have enough lighting or need lots more.

90,000lumens average for 600w hps / 16 square feet = 5,625. you did say 4x4 right ? lol

anyway theres the formula for figuring lighting out. by no means replaces a lighting gauge but give you a general idea where your at in term of Lighting.

Also you have to take into account dispersion rate and penetration so the lower you can keep the Light the better. Proper trimming, topping and fimming help controll height and effect yield massively.

Best of Luck
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/384835-swiftgrow-journal.html
 

cloudyharvest

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thank you to swift grow its actually a 4x6 area aftefr it Was built AND done to cater to my area..based on ur clculations i will be around 3,750 psf......? still in optimal range tho....i have a super lumens adjust and also a digilux bulb in the 600 air cooled hood....gunna try that tomm instead of the regular 600 watt setting,,,might help a lil..?also yes i think by topping im alllowing light to penetrate deeper into each top maybe massive nugs! CAN I TRIM HER DURING FLOWEING...LITTLE BRACNHES SHOOTING FROM EVERY WHERE??
 

SwiftGrow

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Ya I trim during Flowering all the time. If you see some small useless growth take it off so that the nutrients its using can be diverted to a better more fruitful area:D. The plant will generally tell you what it doesnt need during flowering. Plants lower growth will not develop or leaves under the main canopy will turn yellow and wilt like there dieing. I have few bushy out of control girls at the moment so I'm constantly plucking undergrowth as it dies. Most plant you can keep trimmed well enough that that is not a big problem but the 4 I currently have in flowering used to be mothers and are rediculous bushy and out of controls. Anyway hope that helps :D

Best of Luck
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/384835-swiftgrow-journal.html
 
ok well my dropper ph test kit is based on the theory i think that the water will be clear....so how can i test water after i added nutes? ph sticks

raw buzski you have any advice for the yellowing im experincing..im freaking out cuz i havent encountered this problem yet!
I had the same problem with the GH ph kit, so I had to pony up and get the ph meter, I got a good deal on one from amazon takes the headache out of it all.
 

cloudyharvest

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thansk fellow tokers!......happy holidays ...and good advice ..i plan on getting a soil meter just after xmas....lol....expensive one! thanks i now feel not so nervous about the under growth....i also was wondering if i should add nutes with next watering even tho the new pro mix and foxfarm mixtogether are nuted??...i tell you thes 2 girls were def worth the veg and cloning i did as for the roots are they lookin ok?........well enjoy the pic of them in ther new pots..roll it up is a awesome place especially when people help!...cheers...(noticed this distorted leav today so i tossed in a pic):peace:
 

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I would add nutes based on the lines feeding schedule but start at least around 1/4 strength then work your way up accordingly.
 

cloudyharvest

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ok...itll be a day or 2 before i need to water again as the bigger pot retains moisture for longer!.....no comments on the leaf? also my plants were much darker in color in my last grow...maybe increase nutes..any sign of nute burn so far that uve seen?.......also on my bushy mother the main top is trying ti shoot past the others..let it??
 

Captain Jaz

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Light coloured leave can be a sign of under or over feeding, or a number of other things, (i'm assuming your using the same variety yea?) Check the pH and the EC of the run off water, and give fresh water (no nutesd) every second or third feed to flush your medium.
 
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