Dj Ruiners feeble attempt at his first DWC grow...Jacks Classic only.

[djruiner]

some info i saw from rick white.....i so hope this is true....i will still be using my 50/50 method with indicas though...but might try this and see how it works.....

The Growers Bible says that milky trichomes signals peak THC production. This suggests that light passed through heavy THC concentration produces a milky color. This is a physical effect that the THC molecule has on light, particularly how it refracts the light. Sodium has the effect of refracting the red light spectrum - this makes light passed through sodium appear orange or red. A polar Bear's fur is actually clear but refracts the light to make it appear white. Get the idea?

Amber trichomes most likely are caused by THC that is degraded into another chemical - one that refracts the light differently.

Anyway, it is the way the light is refracted that tells us what a substance is composed of. The belief that the THC is "more ready" when it changes colors just doesn't make sense.

In all likeliness, the more white a trichome is the higher the THC concentration. When they become amber, the THC has decomposed into IDK what. That is the way this type of chemical identification works.

Harvesting when trichomes are full milky is probably the best time. Amber trichomes means you waited too long.

 

[MuntantLizzard]

Your right, But THC is not only what gets you high.

 

[djruiner]

yes...but sativas will always have lower levels of cbd,cdc,cbl,cbn,and thcv....so you want to have the highest level of thc in most sativa strains...if you growing an indica then the other areas of cannabinoids will matter more

 

[djruiner]

so to sum it up and make it more simple...one would not want to wait to harvest a sativa when the trichs turn amber...sativas..no matter how amber the trichs are will not produce the levels of cbd that an incida plant will...so by waiting longer your degraded the thc % while not adding to much of a cbd % because sativas naturally do not produce the higher cbd that an indica will....so as it comes to sativa...its best to harvest with all cloudy trichs..if you wait to long your losing the thc % without getting any extra cbd.if you want the total couchlock...get an indica and let the trichs go amber...if you want the head "up" type high...get a satica and harvest with cloudy trichs

 

[MuntantLizzard]

So How long? 12/12? More than 99 days or less? I never go over 100 days.

 

[djruiner]

its really going to be strain dependent...some can take longer some can take less...then whether or not its a hyrid will effect it....i would just go by what trait is more dominant the the other...most dont have a 50/50 mix...usually more like 60/40 or 70/30

 

[djruiner]

here is some more info i found on this subject......
THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) gets a user high, a larger proportion of THC will produce a stronger high. Without THC you don't get high.

THC is responsible for most of the cerebral (mental) effects of cannabis. Besides potentially inducing feelings of euphoria and happiness, THC can cause people to feel anxious, nervous, or paranoid.

CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC. Larger amounts of CBD tend to relax both mind and body, and decrease feelings like anxiety, nervousness, and paranoia.

Cannabis that has a high level of THC and low level of CBD will produce a very strong cerebral high. The body may feel more physically energetic when compared to ingesting cannabis with larger levels of CBD.

Cannabis that has a high level of both THC and CBD will produce a fairly strong cerebral high. The body will feel somewhat relaxed and heavy. At lower dose sizes, physical activity is possible (with effort).

Cannabis that has low levels of THC and high levels of CBD will produce more of a stoned feeling. The mind feels relaxed and dull, the body feels relaxed and heavy, most people do not like to engage in physical activity.

CBC (Cannabichromene) is not psychoactive in pure form, and is not known to interact with THC to affect the high.

CBL (Cannabicyclol) is a degradative product like CBN. Light converts CBC to CBL.

CBN (Cannabinol) is produced as THC ages. High levels of CBN tend to make a person feel messed up rather than high. CBN levels can be kept to a minimum by storing cannabis products in a dark, cool, airtight environment.

THCV (Tetrahydrocannabivarin) is found primarily in strains of African and Asian cannabis. THCV increases the speed and intensity of THC effects, but also causes the high to end sooner.

If you are a grower, you can experiment with different strains of marijuana to produce the various qualities you seek. A medical marijuana patient looking for something with sleep inducing properties might want to produce a crop that has high levels of CBD.

Another person looking for a more energetic high will want to grow a strain that has high levels of THC and low levels of CBD. In general, Cannabis sativa has lower levels of CBD and higher levels of THC. Cannabis indica has larger amounts of CBD and lower amounts of THC than sativa.

 

[MuntantLizzard]

Without THC you don't get high.

Now thats just a flat out lie(Not calling you a liar BUT just consider your sources) right there.

 

[djruiner]

Now thats just a flat out lie(Not calling you a liar BUT just consider your sources) right there.

the show me a source that says you can get high on weed with no thc

 

[djruiner]

if you have weed with no thc...thats called hemp..check your sources a lil more bro

 

[MuntantLizzard]

Its called K2, spice bullshit that kills BUT it has CBD
And My sources are you

CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC. Larger amounts of CBD tend to relax both mind and body, and decrease feelings like anxiety, nervousness, and paranoia.

 

[djruiner]

Its called K2, spice bullshit that kills BUT it has CBD
And My sources are you

what the hell does k2 have to do with anything...that is a chemical...jwh....do your research....of course that has no thc...its not marijuana...its a chemical that reacts almost the same as marijuana...but with many side effect....you tried to state that you can get high without having thc....well no shit..many things will get you high..but marijauna HAS to have thc to get you high...who the fuck cares about those lil kid drugs you can buy at the gas station
to sum it up marijuana has to have thc to get you high...but nice try...the info i posted was on weed...not jwh...which was created in effort to mimic thc

 

[MuntantLizzard]

You get high with thc dont you?
Dont get mad at me.

 

[djruiner]

You get high with thc dont you?
Dont get mad at me.

ummm..that was my whole point...and im not mad..more irritated...all my past post have been pushed down over all this...and over something it seems obvious you have no idea what your talking about

 

[djruiner]

updates......went ahead and made a new batch of nutes for party girl..thought id pump her full of ferts for a couple more days..going to try something new..going to make her a new batch of solution everyday for the next 3-4 days...increase the about of bloom and molasses each time before i flush her using only molasses...since im not waiting on the trichs to change anymore im just waiting for all the hairs to change colors...and the calaxes are really swelling up fast now...a few of them are about pea size on some of the bigger buds.....im going to be drying it in my old grow box...figured id use that thing for something...then into the jar it goes...ill be using my RH cure method again since its worked the other times...might pick up another hygrometer...but i think i can get by with using the one in my grow box seeing as my temps since moving the lights barely makes it over 80f now..so i dont need to keep track of temps in there...im glad winter is here...growing in central florida sucks during the summer

 

[djruiner]

fuck

 

[djruiner]

well...i went to take party girl out of the box...and in the process i managed to break off 2 branches of her...granted its not that much...but i wanted to harvest it all at once...least i didnt punch a a few holes in the wall..even though i almost did..that shit pissed me the fuck off....but it was my own mistake...and now i know to take it out of the res before trying to remove it from the box....gaddammit

ill do more updates tomorrow....need to take a break from all this shit....and i think i know why it happened....plant karma...this happened maybe 10 minutes after we chopped my girls mini dwc plant because it had a huge set of nuts....plant karma will get ya every time

 

[SmeLLyTreeZ]

Damn that sucks bro but now you have a few buds to dry and smoke So how much longer are you letting her go?

 

[djruiner]

she is getting flushed starting tomorrow...so a week at most...maybe less depending on how she does over the next couple days

 

[SmeLLyTreeZ]

she is getting flushed starting tomorrow...so a week at most...maybe less depending on how she does over the next couple days

Oh snap, I'm thinking another week and a half or 2 weeks on the KandyKush. Idk, we will see soon! Hairs are finally starting to receed and the lower buds seem like they might start getting amber in them! Have you looked @ party girl under the scope at all yet?