leaves dying very fast - bud leaves curling?

[elasher]

I have 3 plants that have been in flowering for 5 weeks now. The big fan leaves are dying really fast. I know this is normal for them to die off but they are going at a fast rate, i am wondering if there will be any by the time they are ready to harvest? And also some top fan leaves are dying too, and some of the bud leaves are curling. Ive been following the fox farms feeding schedule (1/2 strength easing into everything) My soil ph is 6.8, grow spot is perfact temp, so i really dont know what i am doing wrong, i dont know how i could be over feeding when they are sucking the fan leaves dry of nutes. So i snapped as many photos as i could for you guys to maybe help me a little. I am just worried that the bud leaves are going to start yellowing then i end up with nothing?

 

[elasher]

BUMP! - its getting worse. More info - 'm feeding every other watering which is every other day. Now the BUD leaves have yellow tips. Just flush for now and start schedule again at 1/2 strength? Anything else you would need to know just ask, anymore pictures, i will get, just really need help right now.

 

[ryedooby35]

Your plants are lacking N. How are you measuring the PH? What type of Fox Farm nutes are you giving them? Temp and humidity?

 

[ryedooby35]

Your stems are turing red which can be a characteristic, but also means stress. When you provide the following answers to the question I will have a solution.

 

[elasher]

it stays 72 degrees night 76-78 day. I use a thermostat space heater for when the lights are off which is on the opposite schedule as the light. I am currently starting week 9 of the fox farms schedule based on when mine started to flower so starting week 5 of flower. Not using any soluables, just Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom, Grow Big, which in week 7 and 8 you give it more Grow big (high in nitrogen) for the flowering period . Pots are double 3 gallons and lately they are drinking like camels so its watering every other day, feed every other watering (about 2 feedings a week) as the chart says. I was just told to follow this stupid thing and i think it got me in trouble lol. Also i ph my soil with a meter.


Also want to add that my water is well water and with 3 plants in 2, 3 gal buckets (double potted) i use about 2 gallons on all 3 for each watering. Maybe i havent been giving them enough water. There is for sure 5 gallons of soil to each plant. I use a 1 gallon sprayer and fill it twice each watering. (every other day)
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[elasher]

For Some reason they have been red its entire growth and in seed and vega state they did pretty dang good, no problems. I know the taller one will most likely die because its taller then the light but the other 2 are like 2 1/2 feet away from the light (1000w hps).

Your stems are turing red which can be a characteristic, but also means stress. When you provide the following answers to the question I will have a solution.

 

[CSI Stickyicky]

flush the soil, ASAP. They look overnooted, at first glance.

 

[ryedooby35]

Ph'n the soil with a meter is not always the best way. There are meters out there that give inaccurate readings. Just a bit off will lock u up. Go to a pet store and grab a ph test kit (Capsule type with the drops). Test ur run-off, I bet it will be yellow (-6). You say your plants are draining the water which is a good sign, but if your following the recommended schedule, you would have color in those leaves. I had this problem when I switched to new nute because of availability. Since you have a soil meter I am assuming your not testing the PH of the water before and after nutes are added. Soil is not as forgiving as hydro, your window for proper absorbtion is 6.5 to 7.0 (Best at 6.. Keep your run-off in that range give or take a .1 here and there and you will have a great havest. Fox farm are good nutes, but can easily build-up in your dirt. If you are locked-up, which I am guessing you are. Flush with neutral water (7.0) let it dry almost completely and give it a light 6.8 balanced water with very little nutes. They will respond and hopfully put some wieght on before harvest. Best of luck to you.

 

[elasher]

Alright so how many waterings should i flush? I can go get some reverse osmosis water from home depot tomorrow! Never did a flush so not entirely sure how to do so. Also not exactly sure what run-off is and ya i use a cheap soil PH meter from the local hydro store so im not even sure how accurate it really is.

 

[Nice Ol Bud]

Flush and get pH down to about 6.2-6.4.

 

[wanabe]

its either the water or nutes your using

 

[elasher]

So the nute lock up may be causing the leaves to die so fast being that they arent getting it at the root?

 

[elasher]

Just ph'd the soil again, havent for a week or more. Reading 7.2... Just watered it today can i still flush? And ive tried to look it up and from what i find, if i have 5 gallons of soil then flush each one with 10 gallons of water? Or just water with normal amounts for the next week then start the feeding over at 1/2 strength? Here are some more pics. In order by plant. Also going to get more when the light shuts off because theres a few shots i want to get but cant with the light on.

 

[withoutAchance]

flush the soil, ASAP. They look overnooted, at first glance.

this is nota good answer the plants a diffinetly lacking either lockout from wrong ph or salts build up get ph dialed in and start full dose of nutes they need the nutes imo but i always do hydro so nutes are are a must and must be at right ppm/dose and shuold be close to makes rec for soil. look way under fed buds are way under sizeds

 

[withoutAchance]

i dont know your nutes but you can foliar spray with some of it to fix the palnt faster ask around new thread with your nutes as topic and foliar spray youll get help post pics for sure.

 

[withoutAchance]

and your gaonna need ssome nitrogen rich nutes expect 2-3 more weeks in flower because you will be growing as you flower instead of the plant focausing on flowering mostly youll get their

 

[elasher]

Im using fox farms Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom, Grow Big and using their schedule in Fox Farms ocean forest...This only started happening 1# when they started to flower which is also when i started using tiger bloom which some people say jumps the PH all over the place. So now im stuck with 2 different answers lol. No idea what i should do now. Start using reverse osmosis water, get a WATER PH tester and ph the water for now on, which is what i should of been doing since the beginning but ran out of funds(if fails then flush for 2 weeks) or start flushing now for 2 weeks, then start back on the schedule 1/2 strength until harvest(flushing last 2 weeks of harvest of course). Those are the ideas i get from the 2 different answers i got lmao! <<< Opinions wanted!

 

[elasher]

Well thats what i thought it was at the starting so i gave it a 1/2 str shot of nitrogen the past 2 waters (no tiger bloom big bloom) and its not making it any better. Grow Big is 6-4-4

and your gaonna need ssome nitrogen rich nutes expect 2-3 more weeks in flower because you will be growing as you flower instead of the plant focausing on flowering mostly youll get their

 

[newbiebob]

dude i had this exact same problem with my last harves. I was using the full fox farm linup (with solubles) and as soon as i changed to flower (tiger bloom) the plant started to struggle. The fan leaves began dying at a fast rate. I had to harvest around week 6 since they were dying. I think that the ph instability from the tiger bloom damages the roots. let me know how this turns out for you

 

[elasher]

Will do. Should i just stop using tiger bloom?...

dude i had this exact same problem with my last harves. I was using the full fox farm linup (with solubles) and as soon as i changed to flower (tiger bloom) the plant started to struggle. The fan leaves began dying at a fast rate. I had to harvest around week 6 since they were dying. I think that the ph instability from the tiger bloom damages the roots. let me know how this turns out for you