I'm a little toasty so I will try not to ramble too much. It all started several yrs ago when I accepted the offer to be funded into a commercial setup. All I saw was a carrot in front of my face, and I jumped on the offer not knowing what I was really getting myself into (in terms of mental, physical, and financial investments..always read the fine print).
I started right off the gun not really 100% into it, but after resolving some personal issues sometime later, I started focusing more. Another year or so into it after that, probably right about the time I found RIU.. then I REALLY started getting focused. as some would say here, "learn(ing) what makes a plant tick". I spent countless hours (re)learning and really getting things dialed in. All the while the initial investment, plus rent, plus stupid ass pwr bills (I was running 8-9Kw HPS + fans), the debt got really, really high. Over time this was paid down to where there was only about 10-12% left owed. Granted I made my fair share of mistakes, but I question the original guy's management skills, actual troubleshooting, etc. the spot just never really put it out like it was theorized & hypothetically should. Not to say this guy doesn't know what he is doing, but I dont think he had the actual time put in, and proven, reliable results.. and instead spouted a lot of book knowledge. Even other growers we know had remarks, critiques, and alternative solutions to several things he had done implemented/modified or suggested to the setup, and politely pointed out these mistakes & oversights he had made. I mean, from what I gathered here on RIU, and my limited experience: no 2 spots are a like. right?
It had been a long ride, but like I said, I was finally getting things better after lots of errors, all that jazz. Plus.. I even switched to coco! which by the way, fukkin rocks. Actually my very last cycle was some of the best I had seen come out of my space, so I was really pumped with the transition to this new medium. MUCH PROPS here to the coco guys.. you know who you are.
Anyhoo.. the girls were due really soon, and early one morning, while still dark out, a gang of guys busted into my house. By the time I knew it they were coming up my stairs, flashlights glaring, yelling "Police! Police! get down on the ground". I remember them saying "Growing a lil MJ eh?" as I was shoved onto the ground and (turns out) my hands tied with my own cell phone charger. They obviously knew what I was doing, proceeded to play the po-po part. I never saw any faces, any weapons, they just pretended to grill me about what I was doing at my place. I played into their hand, just figuring I should go along with it. I mean, these are cops right?
This whole time, I'm not really tripping too hard, b/c I was compliant. I had 2 'scrips, wasnt over my limit, had co-op paperwork.. you name it. even legal counsel ready to go. Nevertheless, I didnt have a bunch of weight, no cash, and they chopped down all my girls, stole some electronics, and just bounced. I eventually figured out they werent there anymore, and untied myself, and then checked out the rest of my place..blah blah. That was the final day of my green-thumb, and I moved out immediately.
The investor took back all of the grow equipment, and even other items I had bought to supplement things. All in all, even with a mixture of old, plus fairly new equipment, it was a good chunk of change.. u know? Ideally someone would buy the gear. Which leaves us with the remainder of the debt.
Given those details, and the fact that I was victimized in my home, and never really came out of this with anything after yrs of work -- what % of that remainder do I still owe the guy?
I'd be curious to know your thoughts.
I haven't been back on RIU for sometime since that, but I want to thank everyone who answered all my questions, and tried to help me troubleshoot things. For those of you reading this that are just getting started: I always found it helpful to peruse the relevant forums that I was trying to learn in, and do my best to help try to solve other people's problems. Its good practice & you can learn a lot.
Thanks.
I started right off the gun not really 100% into it, but after resolving some personal issues sometime later, I started focusing more. Another year or so into it after that, probably right about the time I found RIU.. then I REALLY started getting focused. as some would say here, "learn(ing) what makes a plant tick". I spent countless hours (re)learning and really getting things dialed in. All the while the initial investment, plus rent, plus stupid ass pwr bills (I was running 8-9Kw HPS + fans), the debt got really, really high. Over time this was paid down to where there was only about 10-12% left owed. Granted I made my fair share of mistakes, but I question the original guy's management skills, actual troubleshooting, etc. the spot just never really put it out like it was theorized & hypothetically should. Not to say this guy doesn't know what he is doing, but I dont think he had the actual time put in, and proven, reliable results.. and instead spouted a lot of book knowledge. Even other growers we know had remarks, critiques, and alternative solutions to several things he had done implemented/modified or suggested to the setup, and politely pointed out these mistakes & oversights he had made. I mean, from what I gathered here on RIU, and my limited experience: no 2 spots are a like. right?
It had been a long ride, but like I said, I was finally getting things better after lots of errors, all that jazz. Plus.. I even switched to coco! which by the way, fukkin rocks. Actually my very last cycle was some of the best I had seen come out of my space, so I was really pumped with the transition to this new medium. MUCH PROPS here to the coco guys.. you know who you are.
Anyhoo.. the girls were due really soon, and early one morning, while still dark out, a gang of guys busted into my house. By the time I knew it they were coming up my stairs, flashlights glaring, yelling "Police! Police! get down on the ground". I remember them saying "Growing a lil MJ eh?" as I was shoved onto the ground and (turns out) my hands tied with my own cell phone charger. They obviously knew what I was doing, proceeded to play the po-po part. I never saw any faces, any weapons, they just pretended to grill me about what I was doing at my place. I played into their hand, just figuring I should go along with it. I mean, these are cops right?
This whole time, I'm not really tripping too hard, b/c I was compliant. I had 2 'scrips, wasnt over my limit, had co-op paperwork.. you name it. even legal counsel ready to go. Nevertheless, I didnt have a bunch of weight, no cash, and they chopped down all my girls, stole some electronics, and just bounced. I eventually figured out they werent there anymore, and untied myself, and then checked out the rest of my place..blah blah. That was the final day of my green-thumb, and I moved out immediately.
The investor took back all of the grow equipment, and even other items I had bought to supplement things. All in all, even with a mixture of old, plus fairly new equipment, it was a good chunk of change.. u know? Ideally someone would buy the gear. Which leaves us with the remainder of the debt.
Given those details, and the fact that I was victimized in my home, and never really came out of this with anything after yrs of work -- what % of that remainder do I still owe the guy?
I'd be curious to know your thoughts.
I haven't been back on RIU for sometime since that, but I want to thank everyone who answered all my questions, and tried to help me troubleshoot things. For those of you reading this that are just getting started: I always found it helpful to peruse the relevant forums that I was trying to learn in, and do my best to help try to solve other people's problems. Its good practice & you can learn a lot.
Thanks.
