The Art of The Auto

[FullDuplex]

hope you don't mind if I join the Project Eden Team... PET

now when you say DWC what exactly does that stand for?

Deep Water culture. Roots submerged all times with air stones in the water to bubble it 24/7
Allowing up take when ever the plant wants it, i HATED dealing with that res its why i went back to soil

 

[FullDuplex]

FullD..Fang....ah man..gone but not forgotten.

I do miss her and she was a great smoke

It looks very dangerous..and very enticing.

That is an understatement. These are what i use to cook with only
There almost too hot to put in powders or any other form.
Hands tingled for three days after, even with gloves on and a lemon juice bath on the hands

(FullD...I think we were just mugged for a team badge there...in broad daylight.....)

I think so too kinda like "wham bam thank you ma'am"
(a saying of my father LOL)

I'll take a bit less next time m8.

Good glad to hear it, got to take it easy over there now

I'd love to have had a drug test before and after..
coz I swear blind it flat-lined my THC levels.

This would be some interesting results. IF it did oh the possibilities.

I always used to think it was when the root pooled..
But observing the cup girls..
it looked more like when they bottomed...

I am watching this now with the current grow. I have a deeper vertical drop than i ever had before and i planted directly to the finishing pot. I used a raised transplant method this time. Also this allowed no disturbance of the root ball so it can run free with out being touched. I think that i have stumpied a few in the past being too hard on the root ball, but were all a little guilty eh...

Right now i can tell a difference in growth, and one of the bad betties is going to be a big gal i do believe. She's taller than the rest and they have all started at the same height. So ill be watching what node they show sex on. It seems the higher the node she shows sex the bigger she will be

I might just have a look at their root-ball tomorrow..
if they will slip out of the pot easily.
My head say that they may be girls..and are ready to pop..

I think that they would be female as well. My fems ALWAYS show after the males.
Its like a clock my friend. Cant wait to hear your verdict on the root mass.

go back and look at the two main stems..

i do its almost like an outer ribbed structure to hold the strength.
Like a honeycomb does pushes the weight around the center
forcing it to the outside.
Fascinating trait

And you recognised the DC lookee likey..you are getting better and better.

Thank you my friend the DC's you have grown have always had my eye
there is something about them that i like, cant put my finger on it yet
but the structure is so defined. Big long stems nice fat fan's. And the main bud formation is.....well....sexy

 

[John Mondello]

Deep Water culture. Roots submerged all times with air stones in the water to bubble it 24/7
Allowing up take when ever the plant wants it, i HATED dealing with that res its why i went back to soil

Fulld:

shit... that crashed an entire operation on us twice... And clearly I'm intimately familiar with hydroponics and aeroponics... thats why i got out of hydro too.... like the flavor of soil better and the natural factor as well... but even if you go fog... I reccommend redundancy with it... 1 fogger and humistat setup to run... and one humistat set below the other about 10% as a backup... had a fogger go down too once... same result... but even faster with fog... it goes down... you have about 2 hours.... So far I really like the supplememntal water and nutes in soil with it though... they are exploding ... almost should take a second set of pix today... lol

we had a hell of a time on my friends water keeping ph straight... although he didn't really have the touch with not over-ph adjusting either. bottom line... soil is easy to be consistent and nt stunt the ladies... but for cloning... fog is the cats ass and fuzzy balls!


DD:
We'll be looking forward to your empirical data! Glad I could help... def double-check my data with FD or Mossy tho...

J
J

 

[John Mondello]

sorry on the badge there gents... didn't mean to make you feel violated... lol

it was more of a "snapshot" than a mugging... lol

Hey FD... what kind of peppers in the pic there? some kinda habanero?

 

[FullDuplex]

sorry on the badge there gents... didn't mean to make you feel violated... lol

it was more of a "snapshot" than a mugging... lol

Hey FD... what kind of peppers in the pic there? some kinda habanero?

No worries my friend none at all just giving you a bit of a hard time here having fun

there are 2 kinds of Habanero's there the darker ones are chocolate Caribbean the two on the left
and the white/yellow ones are white lightning all in which lit me up nice.
I never catch a cold

 

[FullDuplex]

we had a hell of a time on my friends water keeping ph straight...

I hear ya on that one. Its what taught me how important pH really is to a plants success. You have to have it right or it cant eat. If its not right it cant get what it needs from the medium you basically starve them if its not right.

I had a few power outages when i was running the system, not a good thing if you dont have back up on bats, things tend to get bad fast.

 

[John Mondello]

fact man... you said it all there... it's definetly is a great lesson (or crash course) about ph/nutrient uptake correlation.

new fog vid...
[video=youtube;stMYALNeMog]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stMYALNeMog[/video]

 

[FullDuplex]

fact man... you said it all there... it's definetly is a great lesson (or crash course) about ph/nutrient uptake correlation.

new fog vid...

Now thats an interesting setup right there
i bet its nice to have the humidity under control like that
you really know your water apparatus'
Im quite impressed, here i am trying to figure out a nice drip feed system
and your blowing fog into your room LOL
Good shit

Here are my 6 little ones, not much to look at but there really speeding along

 

[John Mondello]

looking very nice... mine are about that phase at the moment... when did you start yours?

 

[mossys]

I've just been watching the misting video while I had a cup of tea....Cool....
Fantastic set up.

I think so too kinda like "wham bam thank you ma'am"
(a saying of my father LOL)

LMHO..

it was more of a "snapshot" than a mugging... lol

On the other site wearing the badge told noobs that you were a good AF grower who was approachable..
and willing to share info..in a friendly helpful manner..
I Think you Fit the Badge...

Certainly you are the Only Mist grower I have ever encountered..
Our range of Team Skills just multiplies.

I do miss her and she was a great smoke

sigh..

Right now i can tell a difference in growth, and one of the bad betties is going to be a big gal i do believe.

Baad Betty.... ..hope its a red one.

Hands tingled for three days after, even with gloves on and a lemon juice bath on the hands

Aiyeeeeeeee..

I used a raised transplant method this time.

I noticed..it will be interesting to see how they do.
I Fancy the sponge trick will be good to watch too..
I take it you are burying the sponge with an air-block in it and just plugging it in for a time each day.
Might as well make full use of the pump.
Thinking if you do it in the polystyrene pots..you can cut holes through and leave the pipe in situ..

BTW..My polys..look where they have the drainage holes....

NONE in the bottom.
I'm thinking..it Might be good to copy that...
25 ltrs of wet compo is a hell of a weight..
putting holes in the bottom May affect the integrity and weaken the bottom.

I was a bit nervous when I first saw them..holes are always in the bottom..
But this does work.

oh BTW...definite male in the small pot..fingers crossed the other is female..
I'll try to get a shot of the rootball later on in the day..
it is a wee bit nippy just now.

another male spotted in the other pot...

Bring on the girls....

 

[mossys]

HBC my Sagamatha Star Ryder seems to be doing fine. I have her in a 3 gallon pot and she is 10 days from germ, so I'm in that period where the root is finding the bottom and getting ready to explode in growth. I should know the sex in about 10 days, but I feel confident and have been giving her all the good vibes I can. Will let you know as soon as I see something.

Well that IS good news....AF..girl..karma sent.

and cheers m8..I love this thread too.
12 pages to catch upon..mmmm...you must have been away around 4-5 days....

speaking of smelling when plants are about to show sex.. just opened my box to pull the girls out just before lights out to install the new HPS and that sweet-ish preflower smell punched me right in the face.. got to looking and my snowryder spit out about 9 pistils between yesterday and today.

Sirens...

DD..

When do you recommend harvesting PJ for maximum pain relief? (I've had seven knee surgeries from 20yrs of wrestling)

IF she is a white..I would test bud her from 7 weeks.
I find pain relief With energy is Early..
But..
I've been getting massive muscle spasm relief with the girls that have been left to amber.
I feel Great on the ambers..But..it gives someone else in the house massive paranoia.
So if you are prone to that..stay early.

If you don't want to pull a full bud to test..try some of the heavy tricy leaves.
Smoke might be a bit rough..
But..med effects should show through.

Maaaan mossy, damn shame to hear it m8...when smoking heavily does not do the trick, you know your in trouble

Aye..especially when the bud Pre-Mango was one of the Best.
I've been walking 5 inches taller since I have been smoking her the spasm relief is so good.

I'm with you on the lemon..I Think it is my hard afghan dom...lemons not mangos.
I AM addicted to lemon..I'm always getting wrong coz when I cook everything is drenched in it..
I even make my own lemonade..bitter enough to make your eyes water.
(Thinking that I have an auto-immune reaction..I was thinking I was eating lemon coz the Pith
has a strong anti-histimine.)

Funnily enough..I do a lot of cross smoking..whatever is nearest to hand..
and one of the things I noticed.

You know I'm not Hot with satis..but the little Nightmare cross does do it for me..
and it is a Strong background high..
(she makes me sing too..)
I can remember smoking a ultra indy ALF pheno after the sati..
and that did more or less the same..
flattened Both of them.
But..I wasn't as badly hit with the after effects.

Contra-indicators...

 

[John Mondello]

Well thank you for the compliment(s)

I can wait to mess around with the styro cooler idea... every try real cold weather with a wall-o-water or greenhouse dome?

and yes... the team skills are X times X times Xing.....

 

[John Mondello]

Now thats an interesting setup right there
i bet its nice to have the humidity under control like that
you really know your water apparatus'
Im quite impressed, here i am trying to figure out a nice drip feed system
and your blowing fog into your room LOL
Good shit

Here are my 6 little ones, not much to look at but there really speeding along

btw, was wondering how this kinda setup would work? can't wait to see the results!

 

[John Mondello]

so hard not to open up all the time to watch them grow in the fog... lol... (hands over ears) "It will defeat the purpose... It will defeat the purpose"

 

[mossys]

autos are much more like our modern day society... "instant gratification".... but damn it feels good anyway....

I agree...
But..
from a med perspective..I was Desperate...and those 8 weeks felt like 8 years on my first grow.

so hard not to open up all the time to watch them grow in the fog... lol... (hands over ears) "It will defeat the purpose... It will defeat the purpose"

I am okay when the girls are on the patio..and I can Watch them
But..
when they are in the grow cupboard I feel more anxious.

 

[mossys]

FullD...
Thoughts to ponder when you have a smoke this weekend......

IF the ability to self-medicate with cannabis is inherant..
it comes with your genes..
where would be the Control Centre..where is that info stored..

My guess is the Brain..
(that is where the cannobanoid receptors are..)

the soul..the psyche..?

Where is the On switch.

Have a great weekend everyone....

 

[mossys]

This is why I was asking about the red wine vinegar and the extra tannins...

It could be very useful for guerilla growers to have high tannins in their girls..

and probably same results on aphids etc..

and the odd passing dinosaur...

 

[YarndiYarns]

Auto's are cool I've been learning plenty.
But are they more sensitive to heat and nutrient over-dose, or is it confined to strains?
Tempretures have been the bane of my existence. Local ambient tempreture (in degrees Celsius) is in the mid-high 30's then dropping to 14 -16 degrees over night. So just imagine what kind of drama I'm having inside my grow box, bearing in mind that all of this has been with CFL's only.
Let's push on - After reading thorugh every literature in my possesion it is clear that every deficiency in the world will produce 'yellowing of the leaves', bloody drama this is, so the way to determine your specific problem is to assess your environment/plan. I believe that my problems were due to mostly inexperience but..a) Heat, b)early over-doseing on Nitrogen (nute burn) and then c)lacking the Cal/Mag due to over-use of the peat, and finally d) poor PH control.
I've rectified most things with lime, new digital PH meter, regulating the watering cycle according to what the plants say, and adding trace elements to the feeding.

Lucy Day 46 (Easy Rider 1)

I wonder - is this going to get any bloody bigger or what?? Should I move her to a bigger pot?
The white residue on the leaves is Magnesium Sulphate from when I foliar fed her Epsom Salts solution.


Ruby Day 46 (Easy Rider 2)

Pride of the pack. I think another 3 weeks to go??



Henrietta Day 32 (Auto Hindu Kush)
I think the massive hdrama with the 44 degree heat stunted the poor hindu kush into submission and she stopped growing, thoughts? Ideas?
Or isi it just the way they grow?

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[mossys]

Lucy is not going to get any bigger..and it is not worth transplanting her at this stage..

I Think Ruby has probably 10-14 days left..she has enough tricy leaf to test smoke...
she looks like a generous girl.
Gently squash a bud on her with the pads of your fingers and sniff..

and Henrietta is a stumpy...not the genetics...I have just done a couple of my girls the same..
and I think it was heat stress with mine.

What light hours do you have them on....?

 

[YarndiYarns]

Lucy is not going to get any bigger..and it is not worth transplanting her at this stage..

I Think Ruby has probably 10-14 days left..she has enough tricy leaf to test smoke...
she looks like a generous girl.
Gently squash a bud on her with the pads of your fingers and sniff..

and Henrietta is a stumpy...not the genetics...I have just done a couple of my girls the same..
and I think it was heat stress with mine.

What light hours do you have them on....?

G'day Mossy, thanks very much for the feed back.
I've had them on 20/4 almost the whole time excpet for four days where I tried to force a photoperiod blueberry gum into flower mode in the same box. I read that the Auto Hindu Kush was a pretty small plant but goodness me..Henrietta is tiny, and so is Lucy.
I'll have to take your wrd for the harvesting time and I'll pst a pic closer to the day, me myself I haven't smoked the herb for 15 years, this is for a relative's medicinal needs (and besides...I love growing these things..the whole process is quite a thrill).

Pity about Lucy, but she was my first and duely suffered for it.
Henrietta - definitley the heat stress as she was 14 dyas younger than the others when it hit..BUGGER IT!!!