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Nate3592

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That's a lot of help man, thanks. I'll probably buy some distilled water then. When do you recommend I start fertilizing the plant through water...maybe two weeks after sprouting?

Yeah, i'm a little worried about odor I need to be under the radar. I got Blue Mystic because most websites said it had very low odor, and during flowering/harvest i'll probably buy ona gel on top of the air purifier I have. If you have any tips to pass on that would be awesome.
 

dura72

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why not start an extra seed along with ur intended grow but just give it tap water instead of ro or distilled, it'll give u chance to c if its any good. also you can give ur plant nutes to very end of flowering if u use organic nutes( they dont give your weed that chemical taste). ur plant/seedlings will NOT need any nutes for there first two weeks of life and when you do start feeding them just give them a quarter of the recommended dose, underfed is easier to sort than over fed, i nearly killed 5 plants by feeding them whilst drunk( either that or my fuckin ex did it on purpose the fat bucket).
as for odor control there are two ways to sort it. mask or remove. the first is cheap but frequently inneffective i'e buy a smelly thing to hide it or alternatively you gotta get a proper carbon filter and 'strain' all the smelly air thru it. the carbon holds the smell. the second is also better as it helps air movement by drawing fresh air into the room and reduces mold and other diseases.
 

Kerovan

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Okay so basically boiling water will not purify your water to the point you need for your plants? I talked with TaoWolf he said all you really need to worry about is the PH balance and/or the mixture of chlorine and ammonia.
to be honest, unless your water is so bad that people cannot drink it without getting harmed, it will work for plants. You don't need to worry about ph or chlorine or ammonia. With a soil grow, as long as the ph isn't way off no need to worry. Chlorine and ammonia in the amounts that are in the water are actually beneficial to plants. Don't sweat it. If you want to, buy distilled water or reverse osmosis water from your local grocery store, but it isn't "requireed" to grow this plant. If you were growing hydro, then I would worry a bit more about the water.
 

dura72

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there are ways to build homemade carbon scrubbers in here sumwhere sorry i cant link u to them but if i find em i'll cum back and post it up.. im too fuckin lazy to build shit at home, i worked with my hands for years and now i just cant be arsed too, btw dont buy any second hand carbon filters or even from people who claim they're unused on the internet. u cant tell whether theyve been used until its too late, u could end up payin for a tin of shit.
 

Nate3592

Member
to be honest, unless your water is so bad that people cannot drink it without getting harmed, it will work for plants. You don't need to worry about ph or chlorine or ammonia. With a soil grow, as long as the ph isn't way off no need to worry. Chlorine and ammonia in the amounts that are in the water are actually beneficial to plants. Don't sweat it. If you want to, buy distilled water or reverse osmosis water from your local grocery store, but it isn't "requireed" to grow this plant. If you were growing hydro, then I would worry a bit more about the water.
Yeah man, thats what I was thinking. If I can drink it safely i'm sure plants could to. But I didn't know if there was any specific differences that may kill the the plant. I'll probably try the tap this time around and i'll post the results. Hopefully it'll work fine.

Dura72- I heard that carbon filters worked well but the one's I saw online were pretty expensive and trying to keep my expenses minimal. I have a small air purifier that I figured would work well during the vegetative stage, i'll also make sure a windows is always cracked. I think that would be sufficient then? Then for the flowering and harvest i'll buy the ona gel neutralizer and stick it outside my closet.
 

irieie

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i live in an area where most people dont drink tap water because of the taste from high levels of dissolved solids. i have used this water (after letting it sit for 24 hrs) with out any negative results but i dont feel that its is the best so there are two fairly cheap ways i use for my water.
1. buy a brita filter (or any other water filter pitcher). this works well but is a pain to have to keep on refiling and emptying.
2. i fill a 5 gallon jug up with RO water from the plethora of public RO systems. this is usually 15-20 cents a gallon. this is what i usually do, but this could become expensive and a pain in the ass if you have a lot of plants and you are better off buying an RO system. but it sounds like you dont have too many plants nor do you have 100$ to spend on a RO system. so get a five gallon jug and save your change. good luck.
 

Nate3592

Member
i live in an area where most people dont drink tap water because of the taste from high levels of dissolved solids. i have used this water (after letting it sit for 24 hrs) with out any negative results but i dont feel that its is the best so there are two fairly cheap ways i use for my water.
1. buy a brita filter (or any other water filter pitcher). this works well but is a pain to have to keep on refiling and emptying.
2. i fill a 5 gallon jug up with RO water from the plethora of public RO systems. this is usually 15-20 cents a gallon. this is what i usually do, but this could become expensive and a pain in the ass if you have a lot of plants and you are better off buying an RO system. but it sounds like you dont have too many plants nor do you have 100$ to spend on a RO system. so get a five gallon jug and save your change. good luck.
Thanks bro. I'm only growing one plant. If its necessary I have the funds to buy an RO unit, but i'd rather not because it seems pointless for one plant. Later when I can grow more plants i'll defintiely purchase one. Well people drink the water here so it must be okay, and if you don't see negative results with that bad of water mine should probably work fine.

Oh but I will probably leave it out for 24 hours to dissolve the majority of chlorine.
 

irieie

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Thanks bro. I'm only growing one plant. If its necessary I have the funds to buy an RO unit, but i'd rather not because it seems pointless for one plant. Later when I can grow more plants i'll defintiely purchase one. Well people drink the water here so it must be okay, and if you don't see negative results with that bad of water mine should probably work fine.

Oh but I will probably leave it out for 24 hours to dissolve the majority of chlorine.
sound like you got it all set good luck man. and be safe when you grow in college, you can loose your financial aid if you get caught. DONT TELL ANYONE! good luck
 

Nate3592

Member
sound like you got it all set good luck man. and be safe when you grow in college, you can loose your financial aid if you get caught. DONT TELL ANYONE! good luck
Haha thanks man, did you grow in college? I have a sports scholarship and im paranoid haha. But, i'm about in the middle of PA and connections suck. Theres been no incidence where they ever bring dogs on campus and they only search if someone tips them off. I think I should be straight. Honestly I think it's stupid I have to even worry its a plant haha.
 

TaoWolf

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to be honest, unless your water is so bad that people cannot drink it without getting harmed, it will work for plants. You don't need to worry about ph or chlorine or ammonia. With a soil grow, as long as the ph isn't way off no need to worry. Chlorine and ammonia in the amounts that are in the water are actually beneficial to plants. Don't sweat it. If you want to, buy distilled water or reverse osmosis water from your local grocery store, but it isn't "requireed" to grow this plant. If you were growing hydro, then I would worry a bit more about the water.
I agree completely. Just to be clear, my viewpoint is:

If you use tap water, I'd check the pH at least once just to make sure it's not at a crazy pH. My tap water is over 8.5 and I still use it (it just has a lot of calcium in it) - I just pH adjust it before mixing my nutrients (which means I have to test pH routinely). And if chlorine scares you, let the water sit out for a number of hours and no worries - it will be gone soon enough. If your water has chloramine in it instead of chlorine - still, don't sweat it. Just like with chlorine, it would take more than what is found in drinking water to harm a person or plant but don't bother trying to leave the water sitting out with it. Chloramine won't dissipate like chlorine. STILL, plants will either use the trace chlorine (it's an essential trace element for them) or the ammonia aspect of chloramine will eventually end up as nitrite or nitrate... which again, plants use.

If you use RO water, it is going to be near neutral pH (around 7) because it will not contain things like calcium to throw the pH off. But be prepared to additionally add Ca/Mg if needed for your plants... as most nutrient companies assume people are using tap water that already contains elements like Ca/Mg in sufficient amounts.

It's all just about practicing due diligence: Tap water = ensuring pH is sane. RO water = ensuring plants are receiving enough Ca/Mg.
 
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