Shutn up about kush

weedmastatx

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the best weed ive ever smoked was chem dawg by far...made my eyes water when i first lit it up..and was stoned out of my mind
 

Treehugginhipster

Active Member
in my opinion kush strains are just the fad these days...same goes for all the purple strains.

basically your average weed smoker (not grower) will pay top $ for something that smells like a fruit or looks a different color (ie. purple).

NOW IM NOT SAYING KUSH OR PURPLE IS CRAP...im just saying there is something just as good out there and there are strains superior to them as well. its all preference when it comes right down to it.

what your average smoker doesnt understand is there are infinite strains (or at least it seems that way) to choose from all are different. some stronger than others obviously but just because your bud has a certain color or smell doesn't mean the high/buzz will be just as good.

in my opinion you shouldnt buy into the hype. try a large variety of strains and figure out what you like best...dont let someone over charge you because of the name or color!
Na Actually Kush is my favorite for every reason taste smell high and trust I have smoked MANY different skunks, hazes, deisels, whites, G13s,NLs
 

Brick Top

New Member
Dude I just told u that. What u need to understand nooby is that sativa indica and rudelias(misspelled) are the varieties species of cannabis. In other words every strain cannabis is one or a combination of these.
You actually left out one subspecies of cannabis, but it is unknown to most and almost never spoken about so it is not all that surprising that it was left out.

There are four recognized subspecies of Cannabis. These include Cannabis sativa sativa, Cannabis sativa indica, Cannabis sativa rasta, and Cannabis sativa ruderalis, the last containing much less THC and generally not used as a psychoactive substance.
 

theexpress

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You actually left out one subspecies of cannabis, but it is unknown to most and almost never spoken about so it is not all that surprising that it was left out.

There are four recognized subspecies of Cannabis. These include Cannabis sativa sativa, Cannabis sativa indica, Cannabis sativa rasta, and Cannabis sativa ruderalis, the last containing much less THC and generally not used as a psychoactive substance.
cannabis sativa rasta?????? maaaan get that shit outta ehre bricktop lolololol
 

Brick Top

New Member
cannabis sativa rasta?????? maaaan get that shit outta ehre bricktop lolololol
Evidently you are one of the people who never heard about it. When DNA tests were performed on a large number of known strains it turned out that a number of strains previously listed as being pure sativa strains were genetically different and were given the subspecies name rasta.
 

theexpress

Well-Known Member
Evidently you are one of the people who never heard about it. When DNA tests were performed on a large number of known strains it turned out that a number of strains previously listed as being pure sativa strains were genetically different and were given the subspecies name rasta.
lol yess lets call all sativa dom hybrids rasta!!!!!! lolololol..........


The results showed three distinct "races" of cannabis. In central Asia the THC-rich indica predominated, while in western Europe sativa was more common. In India, south-east Asia, Africa, Mexico and Jamaica the rasta variant predominated. It looks similar to the sativa subspecies, but generally contains higher levels of THC.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME BULLSHIT.....


Since the study was of DNA rather than a formal taxonomic study, Cannabis sativa rasta is not yet an official new subspecies: the name was the result of a competition in Gilmore's lab. Their work is expected to appear in the journal Forensic Science International later this year.

NOT AN OFFICIAL SUBSPECIES.......
 

Brick Top

New Member
lol yess lets call all sativa dom hybrids rasta!!!!!! lolololol..........


The results showed three distinct "races" of cannabis. In central Asia the THC-rich indica predominated, while in western Europe sativa was more common. In India, south-east Asia, Africa, Mexico and Jamaica the rasta variant predominated. It looks similar to the sativa subspecies, but generally contains higher levels of THC.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME BULLSHIT.....


Since the study was of DNA rather than a formal taxonomic study, Cannabis sativa rasta is not yet an official new subspecies: the name was the result of a competition in Gilmore's lab. Their work is expected to appear in the journal Forensic Science International later this year.

NOT AN OFFICIAL SUBSPECIES.......
There were significant genetic differences proving another separate subspecies but like many new findings of many different things some people refuse to accept something new. There are still people who do not accept ruderalis as a subspecies of cannabis and totally believe it is a subspecies of industrial hemp since it is almost devoid of THC and its main use over the years was for fiber. Among those groups they believe the three subspecies are cannabis sativa sativa, cannabis sativa indica and cannabis sativa rasta.

It is like many scientific things. It is impossible to achieve a 100% consensus on something and as long as someone does not believe they will not accept and they will then talk and write as if something does not exist or qualify as other firmly believe it is and does.

Where the strongest proof for it being a true subspecies comes from is it was found through DNA testing and those who disbelieve like to rely on toxicology testing and that would put it in the cannabis sativa sativa subspecies.

Cannabis is a genus of flowering plant that includes one or more species. The plant is believed to have originated in the mountainous regions just north-west of the Himalayas in India , though it could also have come from Northern Africa . It is also known as hemp , although this term usually refers to varieties of cannabis cultivated for non-drug use. As a drug it usually comes in the form of dried flowers ( marijuana ), resin ( hashish ), or various extracts collectively referred to as hash oil .


The genus Cannabis was formerly placed with nettles in the family Urticaceae or with mulberries in the family Moraceae, but is now considered along with hops (Humulus sp.) to belong to the family Cannabaceae. All strains of Cannabis can interbreed, and produce fertile offspring, which means all known Cannabis plants satisfy one criterion for a single species type called (Cannabis sativa L.) The current Cannabis species model is classed as:
Cannabis gigantea hort. -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa
Cannabis indica Lam. s -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E. Small & Cronquist
Cannabis indica Lam. var. kafiristanica Vavilov -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E.Small & Cronquist var. kafiristanica (Vavilov) E.Small & Cronquist
Cannabis ruderalis Janisch. -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.
Cannabis sativa L. f. ruderalis (Janisch.) Chu -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E. Small & Cronquist
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E.Small & Cronquist var. indica -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E. Small & Cronquist
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E.Small & Cronquist var. kafiristanica (Vavilov) E.Small & Cronquist
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. ruderalis Janisch. -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa var. spontanea Vavilov -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.
Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebrjakova -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.
Cannabis sativa L. var. afghanica hort. -> ?
Cannabis sativa L. var. indica Lam. -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E. Small & Cronquist
Cannabis sativa L. var. kafiristanica ( Vavilov ) E.Small & A.Cronquist -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. indica (Lam.) E.Small & Cronquist var. kafiristanica (Vavilov) E.Small & Cronquist
Cannabis sativa L. var. spontanea Vavilov -> Cannabis sativa L. subsp. spontanea Serebr.


Cannabis has shown three distinct landrace "land-race" known as Cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica and Cannabis ruderalis that are geographically isolated. Botanists, especially cannabis specialists, breeders and seed breeders, often refer to these three cannabis landrace as separate species or subspecies types. Whether the different strains of Cannabis constitute a single species (Cannabis sativa L.) or multiple species has been a contentious issue for well over two centuries.


It is traditionally (albeit contentiously) divided into at least five subspecies, indica/sativa, pure indica, pure sativa, mostly sativa and mostly indica, each found as a cultivar and a wild variety. Cannabis sativa male plants show evidence of selection for traits that enhance fiber production and seed-oil for fuel but the female plant produce seeds for food and flower buds that can be used as a psychoactive substance because it has higher levels of the psychoactive delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), whereas Cannabis indica was primarily selected for drug production and has relatively higher levels of cannabidiol (CBD) and Cannabinol (CBN) than THC.

Some Cannabis sativa seedsBotanists Richard E. Schultes and Loran Anderson also conducted taxonomic studies of Cannabis, and concluded that sufficient evidence exists to support recognition of three species, Cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica Lam., and Cannabis ruderalis. According to their species descriptions, C. sativa is tall and laxly branched with relatively narrow leaflets, Cannabis indica is shorter, conical in shape, and has relatively wide leaflets, and Cannabis ruderalis is short, branchless, and grows wild in central Asia. This concept was embraced by cannabis afficionados who commonly distinguish narrow-leafed "sativa" drug strains from wide-leafed "indica" drug strains.


A recent study of genetic variation in Cannabis supports recognition of C. sativa and C. indica as separate species, although the existence of a third species, C. ruderalis, is less certain. This study assigned hemp (fiber/seed) landraces and feral populations from Europe, central Asia, and Asia Minor to C. sativa. Cannabis indica includes both narrow-leafed drug NLD and wide-leafed drug WLD strains, as well as southern and eastern Asian hemp strains and feral Himalayan populations.


In 2005 a DNA study of the variation in Cannabis according to the DNA in their mitochondria and chloroplasts was conducted. The results showed three distinct "races" of cannabis, including the newly discovered Cannabis rasta. In central Asia the THC-rich indica predominated, while in western Europe sativa was more common. In India, south-east Asia, Africa, Mexico and Jamaica the rasta variant predominated. It looks similar to the sativa subspecies, but generally contains higher levels of THC.

Some authors now refer to C. indica as the subspecies Cannabis sativa subsp. indica and C. ruderalis as the variety Cannabis sativa var. ruderalis reflecting the fact they may not be distinct enough to be classified as separate species. Several other botanical names have also been applied.


There may be political pressures to maintain that "all" Cannabis is designated Cannabis sativa L. for the purposes of avoiding challenges to current laws in various countries.
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
You actually left out one subspecies of cannabis, but it is unknown to most and almost never spoken about so it is not all that surprising that it was left out.

There are four recognized subspecies of Cannabis. These include Cannabis sativa sativa, Cannabis sativa indica, Cannabis sativa rasta, and Cannabis sativa ruderalis, the last containing much less THC and generally not used as a psychoactive substance.
and dont frget the famous ....cannabis kush.
 

Brick Top

New Member
and dont frget the famous ....cannabis kush.
Please read the information in message number 89 and point out precisely where kush is said to be a subspecies of the genus cannabis. I have read the information any number of times and I have not yet spotted kush as being a subspecies.

If you can site other factual information, such as I did, that clearly states that kush is a subspecies of the genus cannabis please do so I can learn from you.

Oh .. simple landrace strains or simple crosses do not qualify as being genus cannabis subspecies so if by chance that is your proof you will need to research a bit more for real proof.

Thank you.
 

Kerovan

Well-Known Member
Please read the information in message number 89 and point out precisely where kush is said to be a subspecies of the genus cannabis. I have read the information any number of times and I have not yet spotted kush as being a subspecies.
I think that was meant to be sarcasm because somebody else early on in the thread said that kush is a subspecies just like indica and sativa.
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
Please read the information in message number 89 and point out precisely where kush is said to be a subspecies of the genus cannabis. I have read the information any number of times and I have not yet spotted kush as being a subspecies.

If you can site other factual information, such as I did, that clearly states that kush is a subspecies of the genus cannabis please do so I can learn from you.

Oh .. simple landrace strains or simple crosses do not qualify as being genus cannabis subspecies so if by chance that is your proof you will need to research a bit more for real proof.

Thank you.
have you read this thread AT ALL? or just your bullshit posts within? that was a joke, similar to you. if you didnt notice i have been back n forth with someone ITT because he thinks kush is a "race, like indica and sativa" hence the joke.
 

Brick Top

New Member
and dont frget the famous ....cannabis kush.
And a little extra about "the famous cannabis kush" in regards to sativas ....... Cannabis sativa ... female plant produce seeds for food and flower buds that can be used as a psychoactive substance because it has higher levels of the psychoactive delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), whereas Cannabis indica was primarily selected for drug production and has relatively higher levels of cannabidiol (CBD) and Cannabinol (CBN) than THC.

So your beloved indicas, "the famous cannabis kush" among them, are famous for having LESS THC than sativas AND if that is not enough, no indica, none, not one produces THCV and THCV (Tetrahydrocannabivarin) is found primarily in strains of African, Equatorial and Asian cannabis. THCV increases the speed and intensity of THC effects.

That is what makes them a rocket-sled ride to Mars rather than the Beavis & Butthead butt glued to the couch affects where you just sit and stare at videos and say; "Uh-huh-huh-huh cool."
 

Brick Top

New Member
have you read this thread AT ALL? or just your bullshit posts within? that was a joke, similar to you. if you didnt notice i have been back n forth with someone ITT because he thinks kush is a "race, like indica and sativa" hence the joke.

I did not read every message, I joined in and then stayed away and then after reading another totally asinine thing about kush strains I decided to comment again.

But a little actual genus cannabis education should not have actually harmed any of you, now should it? That is unless it shatters peoples fantasies about "the famous cannabis kush."
 

jfa916

New Member
i love all kushes i hate any purps etc grand daddy puple urkle puropke train wreck green puprs black purps tried mostly all purp strains and dont like any i will smoke them if its all i have but i dont get those
 

Brick Top

New Member
Originally Posted by rzza oh so your claiming you cant even get a true sativa these days that even compare?


O.O! Super lemon haze or Arjan's haze #2 !

While neither have a lot of indica in them they still have some indica in them so therefore they are not a "true sativa."








 

theexpress

Well-Known Member
to my knolidge cannabis first origenated in south east asia..... we are lead to beleave this because the first "documented" use of cannabis is the chinease people
 

theexpress

Well-Known Member
Cannabis Timeline
A historical timeline of Cannabis through the ages.

6000 B.C.
Cannabis seeds used for food in China

4000 B.C.
Textiles made of hemp are used in China. Remains have been found of hemp fibers from this period and from Turkestan a century later.

2727 B.C.
First recorded use of cannabis as medicine in Chinese pharmacopoeia. In every part of the world humankind has used cannabis for a wide variety of health problems.

1500 B.C.
Cannabis cultivated in China for food and fibre.

1500 B.C.
Scythians cultivate cannabis and use it to weave fine hemp cloth. (Sumach 1975)

1200 - 800 B.C.
Bhang (dried cannabis leaves, seeds and stems) is mentioned in the Hindu sacred text Atharva veda (Science of Charms) as "Sacred Grass", one of the five sacred plants of India. It is used by medicinally and ritually as an offering to Shiva.

700 - 600 B.C.
The Zoroastrian Zend-Avesta, an ancient Persian religious text of several hundred volumes, and said to have been written by Zarathustra (Zoroaster), refers to bhang as Zoroaster's "good narcotic" (Vendidad or The Law Against Demons)

700 - 300 B.C.
Scythian tribes leave Cannabis seeds as offerings in royal tombs.

500 B.C.
Scythian couple die and are buried with two small tents covering censers. Attached to one tent stick was a decorated leather pouch containing wild Cannabis seeds. This closely matches the stories told by Herodotus. The gravesite, discovered in the late 1940s, was in Pazryk, northwest of the Tien Shan Mountains in modern-day Khazakstan.

500 B.C.
Hemp is introduced into Northern Europe by the Scythians. An urn containing leaves and seeds of the Cannabis plant, unearthed near Berlin, is dated to about this time.

500 - 100 BC
Hemp spreads throughout northern Europe.

430 B.C.
Herodotus reports on both ritual and recreation use of Cannabis by the Scythians (Herodotus The Histories trans. G. Rawlinson).

100 - 0 B.C.
The psychotropic properties of Cannabis are mentioned in the newly compiled herbal Pen Ts'ao Ching which is attributed to an emperor c. 2700 B.C.

0 - 100 A.D.
Construction of Samartian gold and glass paste stash box for storing hashish, coriander, or salt, buried in Siberian tomb.

70
Dioscorides mentions the use of Cannabis as a Roman medicament.

170
Galen (Roman) alludes to the psychoactivity of Cannabis seed confections.

500 - 600
The Jewish Talmud mentions the euphoriant properties of Cannabis. (Abel 1980)

900 - 1000
Scholars debate the pros and cons of eating hashish. Use spreads throughout Arabia.

1090 - 1256
In Khorasan, Persia, Hasan ibn al-Sabbah, the Old Man of the Mountain, recruits followers to commit assassinations...legends develop around their supposed use of hashish. These legends are some of the earliest written tales of the discovery of the inebriating powers of Cannabis and the supposed use of Hashish.

Early 12th Century
Hashish smoking very popular throughout the Middle East.

12th Century
Cannabis is introduced in Egypt during the reign of the Ayyubid dynasty on the occasion of the flooding of Egypt by mystic devotees coming from Syria. (M.K. Hussein 1957 - Soueif 1972)

1155 - 1221
Persian legend of the Sufi master Sheik Haidar's of Khorasan's personal discovery of Cannabis and it's subsequent spread to Iraq, Bahrain, Egypt and Syria. Another of the ealiest written narratives of the use of Cannabis as an inebriant.

13th Century
The oldest monograph on hashish, Zahr al-'arish fi tahrim al-hashish, was written. It has since been lost.

13th Century
Ibn al-Baytar of Spain provides a description of psychaoctive Cannabis.

13th Century
Arab traders bring Cannabis to the Mozambique coast of Africa.

1231
Hashish introduced to Iraq in the reign of Caliph Mustansir (Rosenthal 1971)

1271 - 1295
Journeys of Marco Polo in which he gives second-hand reports of the story of Hasan ibn al-Sabbah and his "assassins" using hashish. First time reports of Cannabis have been brought to the attention of Europe.

1378
Ottoman Emir Soudoun Scheikhouni issues one of the first edicts against the eating of hashish.

1526
Babur Nama, first emperor and founder of Mughal Empire learned of hashish in Afghanistan.

1549
Angolan slaves brought cannabis with them to the sugar plantations of northeastern Brazil. They were permitted to plant their cannabis between rows of cane, and to smoke it between harvests.

mid 16th Century
The epic poem, Benk u Bode, by the poet Mohammed Ebn Soleiman Foruli of Baghdad, deals allegorically with a dialectical battle between wine and hashish.

17th Century
Use of hashish, alcohol, and opium spreads among the population of occupied Constantinople.

1606-1632
French and British cultivate Cannabis for hemp at their colonies in Port Royal (1606), Virginia (1611), and Plymouth (1632).

Late 17th Century
Hashish becomes a major trade item between Central Asia and South Asia.

1798
Napoleon discovers that much of the Egyptian lower class habitually uses hashish (Kimmens 1977). He declares a total prohibition. Soldiers returning to France bring the tradition with them.

19th Century
Hashish production expands from Russian Turkestan into Yarkand in Chinese Turkestan.

1809
Antoine Sylvestre de Sacy, a leading Arabist, reveals the etymology of the words "assassin" and "hashishin".

1840
In America, medicinal preparations with a Cannabis base are available. Hashish available in Persian pharmacies.

1843
Le Club des Hachichins, or Hashish Eater's Club, established in Paris.

c.1850
Hashish appears in Greece.

1856
British tax ganja and charas trade in India.

1870 - 1880
First reports of hashish smoking on Greek mainland.

c. 1875
Cultivation for hashish introduced to Greece.

1877
Kerr reports on Indian ganja and charas trade.

1890
Greek Department of Interior prohibits importance, cultivation and use of hashish.

1890
Hashish made illegal in Turkey.

1893 - 1894
The India Hemp Drugs Commission Report is issued.

1893 - 1894
70,000 to 80,000 kg of hashish legally imported into India from Central Asia each year.

1906
Pure Food and Drug Act is passed, regulating the labelling of products containing Alcohol, Opiates, Cocaine, and Cannabis, among others. The law went into effect Jan 1, 1907.

Early 20th Century
Hashish smoking very popular throughout the Middle East.

1915 - 1927
Cannabis begins to be prohibited for nonmedical use in the U.S., especially in SW states.

1920
Metaxus dictators in Greece crack down on hashish smoking.

1920s
Hashish smuggled into Egypt from Greece, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, and Central Asia.

1926
Lebanese hashish production peaks after World War I until prohibited in 1926.

1928
Recrational use of Cannabis is banned in Britain.

1920s - 1930s
High-quality hashish produced in Turkey near Greek border.

1930
Yarkand region of Chinese Turkestan exports 91,471 kg of hashish legally into the Northwest Frontier and Punjab regions of India.

1930s
Legal taxed imports of hashish continue into India from Central Asia.

1934 - 1935
Chinese government moves to end all Cannabis cultivation in Yarkand and charas traffic from Yarkand. Both licit and illicit hashish production become illegal in Chinese Turkestan.

1936
Propaganda film "Reefer Madness" made to scare American youth away from using Cannabis.

1937
Cannabis made federally illegal in the U.S. with the passage of the Marihuana Tax Act.

1938
Supply of hashish from chinese Turkestan nearly ceases.

1940s
Greek hashish smoking tradition fades.

1941
Indian government considers cultivation in Kashmir to fill void of hashish from Chinese Turkestan.

1941 - 1942
Hand-rubbed charas from Nepal is choicest hashish in India during World War II.

1945
Legal hashish consumption continues in India.

1945 - 1955
Hashish use in Greece flourishes again.

1950s
Hashish still smuggled into India from Chinese Central Asia.

1950s
Moroccan government tacitly allows kif cultivation in Rif Mountains.

1962
First hashish made in Morocco.

1963
Turkish police seize 2.5 tons of hashish.

1965
First reports of C. afghanica use for hashish production in northern Afghanistan.

1965
Mustafa comes to Ketama in Morocco to make hashish from local kif.

1966
The Moroccan government attempts to purge kif growers from Rif Mountains.

1966
England win the World Cup.

1967
"Smash", the first hashish oil appears. Red Lebanese reaches California.

Late 1960s - Early 1970s
The Brotherhood popularizes Afghani hashish.

1970 - 1973
Huge fields of Cannabis cultivated for hashish production in Afghanistan. Last years that truly great afghani hashish is available.

1972
The Nixon-appointed Shafer Commission urged use of cannabis be re-legalized, but their recommendation was ignored. Medical research continues.

Early 1970s
Lebanese red and blonde hashish of very high-quality exported. The highest quality Turkish hashish from Gaziantep near Syria appears in western Europe.

Early 1970s
Afghani hashish varieties introduced to North America for sinsemilla production. Westerners bring metal sieve cloths to Afghanistan. Law enforcement efforts against hashish begin in Afghanistan.

1973
Nepal bans the Cannabis shops and charas (hand-rolled hash) export.

1973
Afghan government makes hashish production and sales illegal. Afghani harvest is pitifully small.

1975
FDA establishes Compassionate Use program for medical marijuana.

1976 - 1977
Quality of Lebanese hashish reaches peak.

1978
Westerners make sieved hashish in Nepal from wild Cannabis.

Late 1970s
Increasing manufacture of "modern" Afghani hashish. Cannabis varieties from Afghanistan imported into Kashmir for sieved hashish production.

1980s
Morocco becomes one of, if not the largest, hashish producing and exporting nations.

1980s
"Border" hashish produced in northwestern Pakistan along the Afghan border to avoid Soviet-Afghan war.

Early 1980s
Quality of Lebanese hashish declines.

1983 - 1984
Small amounts of the last high-quality Turkish hashish appear.

1985
Hashish still produced by Muslims of Kashgar and Yarkland (NW China).

1986
Most private stashes of pre-war Afghani hashish in Amsterdam, Goa, and America are nearly finished.

1987
Moroccan government cracks down upon Cannabis cultivation in lower eleations of Rif Mountains.

1988
DEA administrative law Judge Francis Young finds after thorough hearings that marijuana has clearly established medical use and should be reclassified as a prescriptive drug. His recommendation is ignored.

1993
Cannabis eradication efforts resume in Morocco.

1994
Heavy fighting between rival Muslim clans continues to upset hashish trade in Afghanistan.

1994
Border hashish still produced in Pakistan.

1995
Introduction of hashish-making equipment and appearance of locally produced hashish in Amsterdam coffee shops.

Oct 23, 2001
Britain's Home Secretary, David Blunkett, proposes relaxing the classification of cannabis from a class B to class C. As of June 10, 2002, this has not taken effect.

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