Supernatural nutrients in DWC

[WSRidahs]

Well I just made the switch from House and Garden to Supernatural. I've used Supernatural before on a small plant with samples I got from my local hydro store and was very impressed by them. I've never had to adjust pH ever through veg and flower. It's very well pH buffered. This time around I'll be growing a large plant and using Gro Aqua, Bloom Aqua, Super Boost, Bud Blaster, and Superlicious. I will also continue to use House and Garden's Roots Excelurator, Drip Clean, Bud XL, and Plant Success's Great White with Supernatural. So far the nutes are working well together. The Drip Clean is keeping it from having salt build up just like it did with the House and Garden base nutes. Also the Roots Excelurator is doing wonders with roots as always. Plants are on their 4 week of veg and pH is very stable and has never needed an adjustment.

Does anyone have long term experience with these nutes? What have you mixed them with and what were your results compared to other nutes? I'd like to see pics of plants preferably in hydro using these nutes. I've looked around and it doesn't seem to be much info on people using them. With such ease of use and perfect pH buffering, I wonder why there's not much info about others using it. I see many threads about Advanced Nutrients, House and Garden, GH, etc. with great detail and pics but nothing really with Supernatural. I'd like someon that's using these nutes to post their experience using them.

 

[JimmyCliff]

Also a DWC grower here.
Supernatural is good stuff, but costly compared to some other nutes. For a few plants it's great. I've used Supernatural GRO Aqua and BLOOM Aqua by themselves and had great results. No burn, no deficiencies, no stress. Very, very smooth growing.
I'm not sure that I've shared your experience with pH buffering, as I always have to adjust up by about 1, but that may have to do with my medium.
I've recently added Liquid Karma to the regimen. It's hard to say how well it's working since I've had other minor snafus, but I've used it in previous soil gardens, and it's very effective for both veg and flowering growth. I use < 5mL/gal.
Hope this helps.

 

[WSRidahs]

I've used them by themselves on my first run with it but with Super Boost and in Hydroton medium. Got the same results. No burn or deficiencies and had very nice growth. I never had to adjust pH through the plants complete life. Very stable and stays in range and in the good part of the range too. This time around I'll be using some of the House and Garden additives along with it. The H&G additives doesn't affect the pH at all and is why I'm gonna continue using these additives along with it. My current plants just started week 4 in veg and I'm currently using the Gro Aqua, Roots Excelurator, Drip Clean, and Great White. Plants are in black buckets with 10 inch net pots. From week 1 till now, no pH adjustment has been needed. pH has been in the range of 5.6-5.9. No salt build up either thanks to Drip Clean. You might be right about your medium causing the pH to move. What are you using?

 

[JimmyCliff]

I'm using hydroton. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it whilst sober, I realize that it can't be the medium. The pH is off when I mix the nutes, before I put the plant back. Idk, maybe my res needs a good cleaning.
What do you clean with? Also, what do you mix the nutes with? I mean as a mixing utensill?

 

[WSRidahs]

I don't clean my buckets between res changes. I only clean if there's a problem or putting a new clone in. Also after each run, I soak my Hydroton in a cleaning solution and pH it at 5.8 before reusing it. On res changes, I normally just dump the nutes give the bucket a quick rinse with tap water, fill it back up and mix in new nutes. I use a plastic ruler to mix it. I use a ruler cause it has markings on it to tell me how many gallons I'm putting in. It might be your water. My tap water is 20-30 ppm and pH's at around 7. I also keep my res temps around 65-70 degs.

 

[Dicky]

i now use flora shield to clean my buckets once a week, after there clean i add my h20 put my air lines back in and let the bubbles mix my nutes..

 

[WSRidahs]

i now use flora shield to clean my buckets once a week, after there clean i add my h20 put my air lines back in and let the bubbles mix my nutes..

That's what I'm using to clean my hydroton, GH Flora Shield!

 

[dubstepwarrior]

Yes!!! I'm loving the Supernatural in DWC. You just mix and go. No pH adjusting necessary. SO easy. Set it and forget it. Once a week I change the buckets and that's it. I never check the pH and have no burn marks and the leaves are praying to the light.
I'm using roots excel and doing top feed drenches with ZHO by botainicare.
I recommend adding Floralicious plus to the mix when flowering.

Easy easy easy.

Supernatural Gro, bloom,and super boost aqua
Floralicious plus
Roots Excel
ZHO

That's it. no more checking the pH.
Set it and forget it.

 

[JimmyCliff]

I wish I was having everyone's luck with the pH. I'm using distilled water and it's always off by 1. I dunno...

 

[WSRidahs]

Yes!!! I'm loving the Supernatural in DWC. You just mix and go. No pH adjusting necessary. SO easy. Set it and forget it. Once a week I change the buckets and that's it. I never check the pH and have no burn marks and the leaves are praying to the light.
I'm using roots excel and doing top feed drenches with ZHO by botainicare.
I recommend adding Floralicious plus to the mix when flowering.

Easy easy easy.

Supernatural Gro, bloom,and super boost aqua
Floralicious plus
Roots Excel
ZHO

That's it. no more checking the pH.
Set it and forget it.

Awesome bro! Really good to hear! I have been debating for months to make the switch from House and Garden to Supernatural and hearing other experiences like yours convinces me that I made the right decision. Set it and forget it is exactly what I wanted to hear!

 

[WSRidahs]

I wish I was having everyone's luck with the pH. I'm using distilled water and it's always off by 1. I dunno...

What are you using to check your pH? pH pen or the drops? The drops aren't that accurate and if you're using the pen make sure it's calibrated. Being off by a whole number is a lot.

 

[dubstepwarrior]

I wish I was having everyone's luck with the pH. I'm using distilled water and it's always off by 1. I dunno...

Jimmy.. throw away the pH pen
But seriously Supernatural claim to fame is the pH buffer. and it works really well with shit water.
Try not changing the pH on one of them. It might make your life easier

Seriously. I mix and go. no more pH up or down or those little drops of dye.

 

[JimmyCliff]

Jimmy.. throw away the pH pen
But seriously Supernatural claim to fame is the pH buffer. and it works really well with shit water.
Try not changing the pH on one of them. It might make your life easier

Seriously. I mix and go. no more pH up or down or those little drops of dye.

I use drops. Maybe it's the drops. IDK. I'm looking to possibly switch to something that's not so expensive. This stuff in bulk is not very wallet-friendly.
Does anyone know why the NPK %'s for this are like triple of any other brand? I asked this in another post, but no replies
>=(

 

[WSRidahs]

Don't use the drops. Borrow a pH pen and check it. Make sure it's calibrated. If your pH comes out within range, you may have been adjusting out or near out of range. You don't wanna get nute lock. This stuff really isn't that pricy compared to other brands. Some brands may seem cheaper but check the mixing ratios first. You may be adding more per gallon with the cheaper stuff so it might not be really cheaper. As for Npk, I think some nutes run strong and some run weak. I did notice huge diffferences in growth when using different nutes with different npk values. The higher npk had way faster growth. You just gotta be careful to not burn your plants and know how much they can handle.

 

[dubstepwarrior]

a couple of things.

If your just running supernatural you do not need a pen or drops. I NEVER check the pH.
Less is more with this stuff especially in DWC.
Easy right?
Plants have never had lock out or any deficiencies.
Maybe Im lucky. I'm certainly not a noob.

The NPK numbers are just showing you the concentration amounts of each nutrient. i.e. the ratio of each nutrient.
So just because the number is bigger does not mean there is actually more NPK then other brands.

I know it sounds crazy but if your using supernatural. Do not use a pH pen or dropper. Just try it out on one plant.

There are cheaper nutes such as Grow-More nutrients that are about the same as supernatural but without the pH buffer.

Keep it simple.

Cheerio

 

[WSRidahs]

a couple of things.

If your just running supernatural you do not need a pen or drops. I NEVER check the pH.
Less is more with this stuff especially in DWC.
Easy right?
Plants have never had lock out or any deficiencies.
Maybe Im lucky. I'm certainly not a noob.

The NPK numbers are just showing you the concentration amounts of each nutrient. i.e. the ratio of each nutrient.
So just because the number is bigger does not mean there is actually more NPK then other brands.

I know it sounds crazy but if your using supernatural. Do not use a pH pen or dropper. Just try it out on one plant.

There are cheaper nutes such as Grow-More nutrients that are about the same as supernatural but without the pH buffer.

Keep it simple.

Cheerio

What strength are you running at in veg and flower?

 

[dubstepwarrior]

The stuff is very concentrated.
I usually start off with half the recommended dosage.

I would defo think about getting the whole supernatural line.
Ultimatethrive is great as b-1 supplement and it does not mess with the pH which is what you want.
Keep this real simple and flush for at least a week at the end.

On the flush weeks I run H&G drip clean and change out the water daily.

Remember less is more with this stuff.

p.s. I work at a hydro shop. I love talking about this stuff

 

[krisko]

I was just looking at there line up they have a alot of products. Which ones are you guys using? They are expensive? $80.00 for bud blaster?

 

[WSRidahs]

I was just looking at there line up they have a alot of products. Which ones are you guys using? They are expensive? $80.00 for bud blaster?

I grow in DWC using Gro Aqua, Bloom Aqua, Super Boost, Bud Blaster, and Superlicious. I also use Great White and House & Garden's Roots Excelurator and Drip Clean all the way through veg and flower. Roots Excelurator I stop using after the 3rd week in flower. The Drip Clean really keeps the salts down. I've run the House & Garden line for a long time before switching to Supernatural and Roots Excelurator and Drip Clean worked great.

Supernatural additives can seem expensive but it goes a long way. That $80 jar of Bud Blaster will last you a long time. They also sell a smaller jar of it for about $25. If cost is an issue you can also just use Gro and Bloom and get great results.

 

[krisko]

I grow in DWC using Gro Aqua, Bloom Aqua, Super Boost, Bud Blaster, and Superlicious. I also use Great White and House & Garden's Roots Excelurator and Drip Clean all the way through veg and flower. Roots Excelurator I stop using after the 3rd week in flower. The Drip Clean really keeps the salts down. I've run the House & Garden line for a long time before switching to Supernatural and Roots Excelurator and Drip Clean worked great.

Supernatural additives can seem expensive but it goes a long way. That $80 jar of Bud Blaster will last you a long time. They also sell a smaller jar of it for about $25. If cost is an issue you can also just use Gro and Bloom and get great results.

Sorry Im a idiot. I was looking for there products and only there bigger jars where showing up in my search. This looks very promising if the PH really does not need to be messed with. I was looking at there bud blast and bloom and thrive to start with. Is there thrive like vodoo juice or white shark?