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gNurgles

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The Ruined said:
Next grow I suggest using a soil with no nutes in it at all, for veg you want something with a higher N value somethig like 5-6-3 or something of a similar ratio 10-12-6 there is a "magic" ratio but I can't recall it. So far so good though they are not dead, and the height isn't as important at this age the number of nodes (leaf sets) is what's important.

How far away are your lights? Being LED I'm guessing they don't produce a ton of heat. I'd lower them closer to the plants just test by putting your hand inbeteween the light and the plants. As long as your hand isn't hot the plants should be fine. Hope this helps
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Get some nutes from your local grow shop. I use fox farm. It's cheap and effective. Grow big for veg and Big Bloom for flower. Google their website and you can dl the feeding schedule. Also try and get some soil there as well (depending on what you get it's already ph'd). And don't forget the dolomite lime for ph balancing and cal/mag supply.
 
Redmist

Redmist

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Thanks so much for the input, I was kind of aiming (as this is the 1st go and a bit experimental) to keep it simple, but it sounds like it's getting kind of complicated with all this talk of nuets (what is the difference between nutes and plant feed anyway?) And ph balancing? Cal/mag supply? *heads to google* But thanks so much for your advice, you've given me some stuff to think about.
 
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gNurgles

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Redmist said:
Thanks so much for the input, I was kind of aiming (as this is the 1st go and a bit experimental) to keep it simple, but it sounds like it's getting kind of complicated with all this talk of nuets (what is the difference between nutes and plant feed anyway?) And ph balancing? Cal/mag supply? *heads to google* But thanks so much for your advice, you've given me some stuff to think about.
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I know it's a lot to take in but it'll all come together soon. From my experience if you want to do it right with good results then soil is about as simple as it gets. I may be wrong here but plant feed is the same thing as nutrients but the type you have may not be what your plant prefers. Fox farm is made for cannabis as are most other nutrients sold at a grow shop. With soil, ph balancing isn't as difficult to fine tune as it is with hydro. I've always used root organic soil which is pre-ph'd but as you add nutes the may raise or lower the ph level. Dolomite lime helps balance the ph to what cannabis likes and adds two necessary supplements calcium and magnesium.

Google is our best friend. You'll find what you need. Most of the grow related searches i make end up pointing me to RIU. A good book to get is the Jorge Cervantes Medical Growers Bible. Between that and this site you cannot go wrong.
 
Redmist

Redmist

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Ah cool, you've instantly managed to make it all sound far less scary :) and yeah, this site has been a godsend to me!
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Redmist said:
I would like to invest in more lights but cash flow is an issue right now.
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equal to a 400? Okay.. I'm still learning about LED but I have a small Glowpanel here for cloning and I have nothing but good things to say about it.

We all upgrade over the years on our garden and it never ends.

Again welcome!
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Yes females do tend to look as if they stall while they put efforts into roots from what I can tell.

Not a 100% way to early sex unknown strains but known strains are sometime easy to sex that way here. Just a thought.
 
Redmist

Redmist

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Yes, thank you :) my babies are coming along quite nicely now, had a big shock to see their progress this morning. I was being impatient with them. Hope you're well.
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Oh I know.. They tend to dottle around like they know you are watching and when you aren't they decide it's safe and shoot up.

I am a firm believer in the Root Brain http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CC4QFjAD&url=http://www.dowebsites.net/linv/images/papers_pdf/root%20brain.pdf&rct=j&q=root brain + darwin&ei=1anYTJ7EIov2swPXovS7Bw&v6u=http://ipv4.ipv6-exp.l.google.com/gen_204?ip=99.137.86.169&ts=1289267660376618&auth=v5bz47xyzdkn5kib3jvehwkbuhoxotp5&rndm=0.6716335858012702&v6s=2&v6t=16973&usg=AFQjCNGDqFBpP4uXEmc6kud2IsSB6IEdSA&sig2=KSm5xhH9ioeYdfy9_u8osA&cad=rja

My Garden main is a 4x4 or 16 sq ft indoor planter bed Cab. I have watched them grow year after year and i have seen fights, competition and plants that give up.
Once I opened the box and it felt like I had interrupted a conversation where they all stopped talking and were looking at me in silence. A very odd sober experience.

So I totally get your point of view.
 
Redmist

Redmist

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Thanks for the link, v interesting though being a total newbie at growing anything I started to get a little lost by page 3 :).

Haha! Cool plant story, made me giggle and think of an old western movie when the bad guy walks into a bar and the piano stops playing and everyone stops playing cards :D
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Exactly.. I sit right next to a 16 sq ft soil box / planter bed cab with 1500 watts of blended spectrum to type on the keyboard ( medical Cab Mr. Lawman )so "we all live in a yellow Submarine" here

I swear on something that it was just as I said! I noticed and it was an odd experience!
 
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dekard421

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Thought I'd throw my noob hat into the ring here. First time grow with me as well. Read a TON before doing it which has helped to troubleshoot, and received some excellent and quick advice a couple of weeks ago from experienced members. My plants are now 4 weeks old today. That's 4 weeks since I started germination from seed. They started slow, I thought, but in the last week have exploded. This is a pic of my plants today, 4 weeks exactly from when I first put the seeds in 1 inch rockwool cubes. I'm going to post a my grow log hoping it'll help other first timers, I think I'm doing some things right, but I'm sure some things could be better. I don't know if my growth is ahead of the curve or not, but it seems to be doing well.

3 strains bought from Attitude
400 watt Hortilux Super Blue MH
Dutch Master Gold Nutes, on 2nd week of grow protocol 600ppm


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lib

lib

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hello there peeps, hey red mist, i was having same problem (slow growth) under fluoros, then i changed to hid's and still had slow growth, so i checked my ph .. which was way too high so plants were unable to access the nutrients they needed, balanced ph and now the babies are growing much faster, they're 4 weeks and about ten times the size as your's :) , hope this helps xx
 
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