New Girl.....

[Redmist]

Hello all,

Just started my first grow and I've found the site to be so very helpful with all my stupid questions so thought I'd come say hi and show you my 4 week old babies

I'm not great at the jargon so please bear with me and try not to howl at my doubtless many future mistakes!

I've been smoking for a long time but am a n00b to growing so this maiden voyage is as much an experiment as anything else, am using a 90w triband plus an energy-saving growlight 125w. Have just started using organic tomato feed.

So please feel free to chip in if I'm committing any glaring errors or if you just wanna say hi or ask something

Red

 

[Max Q]

My first impression is your plants look really small for four weeks. What kind of soil are you using? Any nutes?

 

[Redmist]

It's a multi-purpose one which was recommended to me by someone, has 'added John Innes', what ever that is and added nutrients. Brand is Garden Health.

Thanks for the feedback

 

[Redmist]

Additional info, I've only had them under the triband for 2 weeks, had to make do with the grow light at first.

 

[The Ruined]

I agree with max q. I to am new but may be able to help you a lil.

Can we lean a little more about what you have going on?
What are temps?
Soil type?
What's the NPK value of your tomato feed? Do you know if it also supplies all micro nutrients as well?

Let us know we are all here to help.

 

[Redmist]

Hi!

The temperature of the room is about 29 degrees c, is that a little high? Soil type, it just says premium multi-purpose compost with added West plus and enough nutrients for 5 weeks, also says it's ideal for flowering plants, sorry about my vagueness but I have no technical info at all!

The NPK value, well it says on the bottle 4-2-6, does that sound right? I've no idea about micro-nutrients.

Thanks

 

[april]

Hi Redmist and welcome to the wonderful world of growing maryjane !
I would drop the temps ,i keep mine around 22-25 c ,and have u tested your humidity? Mine is between 45-55 walmart sells a dual temp for both for about 10$
My babies are about the same age ,i'm also new well halfway thru my first and just started 2 new babies a month ago.

Hey as long as they are alive your doing well in my book lol.
Just be patient and read alot of threads in the newbie section, lots of great info from people that know their stuff.
Happy growing and best of luck

 

[Redmist]

Hello

Thanks for the temp info and your comments. Haven't tested humidity yet so am off to research this now.

Good luck to you too

 

[DSB65]

Your plant does look awful small..but sense you've only had it under the led a couple weeks i understand..what brand of led is it..ive herd that leds are good for the veg cycle but still debatable in flower..wish you the best of luck....welcome...

 

[Redmist]

Thanks, it's good to be here It's so good to have info from people as this is all new to me, so one for the tip list, 4/5 inches at 4 weeks is bad

They did seems to not grow very much at all about a week ago but I assumed they were just working on roots or something.

Not sure of the LED brand I'm afraid, but will try and find out.

 

[The Ruined]

Next grow I suggest using a soil with no nutes in it at all, for veg you want something with a higher N value somethig like 5-6-3 or something of a similar ratio 10-12-6 there is a "magic" ratio but I can't recall it. So far so good though they are not dead, and the height isn't as important at this age the number of nodes (leaf sets) is what's important.

How far away are your lights? Being LED I'm guessing they don't produce a ton of heat. I'd lower them closer to the plants just test by putting your hand inbeteween the light and the plants. As long as your hand isn't hot the plants should be fine. Hope this helps

 

[april]

Ya heres my babies, i'm going to switch to bigger pots in a week or so, i noticed with my first babies that they grew fast ,stopped then alot faster when they got to a bigger pot. But I'm also growing mine on 12/12 from seed. Takes longer but less $$$ in hydro bills. mine are only about 4 and 6 inches also, good enough for me as long as they are healthy

 

[Redmist]

Next grow I suggest using a soil with no nutes in it at all, for veg you want something with a higher N value somethig like 5-6-3 or something of a similar ratio 10-12-6 there is a "magic" ratio but I can't recall it. So far so good though they are not dead, and the height isn't as important at this age the number of nodes (leaf sets) is what's important.

How far away are your lights? Being LED I'm guessing they don't produce a ton of heat. I'd lower them closer to the plants just test by putting your hand inbeteween the light and the plants. As long as your hand isn't hot the plants should be fine. Hope this helps

Thanks for that, I already lowered the lights once but was a bit nervous about moving them too close as I wanted the light distribution to be even,
Could defnitely move them lower tho. The enviro light kicks out a bit of heat so that'll have to stay put for now.

 

[Redmist]

View attachment 1246238Ya heres my babies, i'm going to switch to bigger pots in a week or so, i noticed with my first babies that they grew fast ,stopped then alot faster when they got to a bigger pot. But I'm also growing mine on 12/12 from seed. Takes longer but less $$$ in hydro bills. mine are only about 4 and 6 inches also, good enough for me as long as they are healthy

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Ah, mine are from seed and are on constantly, was gonna put them on 12/12 when they were about a foot tall. Yours look nice and healthy.

 

[The Ruined]

Ah, mine are from seed and are on constantly, was gonna put them on 12/12 when they were about a foot tall. Yours look nice and healthy.

When they flower they could grow 2-3 times their size before they finish their stretch. If you plan for some tall ladies I'd suggest getting some side lighting when they start to bud.

 

[april]

Thank u. Are u growing in a grow box? I had a plant about 8 inches, we build a simple 3x2x3 wood box, mylar walls, 4 cfls,( gonna add more next grow need to upgrade electrical box.) But the plant went from pic a to big b to c in a month and a week, crazy how containing light makes a huge difference. I did some LST'ing to contain her.

 

[Redmist]

Wow, impressive Hope mine fare as well. It's more of a closet really, ! metre by 1 metre.

 

[Ernst]

that NPK seems reasonable.

First grows are learning experiences.

I am not familiar with the grow light you talk about but I can tell you Cannabis can handle nearly twice as much as our grow books say.
Some grow books talk about 50 watts per square foot of floor space at a specific distance above the plants. In reality Cannabis can handle 90 watts per square foot of specific spectrum light ( made by scientific machine I understand of something like that I read.)

So some folks work with 125 watt Metal Halide lights in a small grow but most work with 250 Metal Halide lights in a small grow.
Also LED's are very reasonable too for growing not price. However i have nothing bad to say about the GlowPanel when it comes to Vegging small plants!

Most folks I know from the sites find a 400 watt High Pressure Sodium bulb barely enough to flower a plant well.

I an hinting at getting a better light. Todays Electronic ballasts are excellent. Look for a unit that can switch from 250 watts to 400 watts and on to 600 watts.
It will give you the flexibility to experiment.

It's the solid advice if we want to grow 4 plants and flower them like i see you are trying.

Welcome to RIU and I hope you don't find my comment on the light a bummer.. Just saying what is real as far as I under stand things.

Ernst

 

[Redmist]

Hey Ersnt,
No, I don't find your comments a bummer at all, it's good of you to take the time to do so The led triband is 90w, equivalent to a 400w hps so I was told. The envirolight is 125w. The space is only 1 metre by 1 metre, with 5 plants. The growth has actually sped up the past couple of days, I'll try and get more pics on today.

 

[Redmist]

I would like to invest in more lights but cash flow is an issue right now.