What is the benifet with Auto Flowering seeds?

LVsFINEST

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Quality over quantity can apply to autos... very small yield. good quality smoke depending on breeder. Its untrue to say auto herb tastes like turds when you haven't smoked or grown it ever. I'm not trying to start a flame war I am merely trying to defend a plant which cannot speak for itself lol.
My bad, I didn't mean to imply that auto's taste like turds, they probably taste great. My point was that I don't need to grow them to know their characteristics/qualities.
 

LVsFINEST

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autos, being what they are cannot be as good as sativas and indicas in my opinion. Autos are bred with ruderalis, which in common language is known as ditchweed. It has no thc and does not get you high. It can give you a headache though. Not really the type of genetics I would want in my quality smoke. It has to have some adverse affect on the offspring. This is just my opinion though.

here is an article that might interest those in this thread:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3033.html
Exactly! Never in the entire history of breeding has anyone ever mixed a Ruderalis to increase potency. If it auto's, it has ruderalis. If it has ruderalis, it's not as potent as it's non-auto relatives.
 

Bighill

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Never in the entire history of breeding has anyone ever mixed a Ruderalis to increase potency. .
Again wrong.. Shantibahbah mixed it in the 80s. yawn. How do you think ruderalis skunk came to be? And if auto is so bad how do you guys explain canadian mity might?

Or are we going to get out the "what everyone else said" book. Oh wait people say MM is good. woops.

It's so fucking obvious NO ONE here has grown the auto affie cut..

WHERE are the people who have REAL auto EXP?!!?!
 

LVsFINEST

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Again wrong.. Shantibahbah mixed it in the 80s. yawn. How do you think ruderalis skunk came to be? And if auto is so bad how do you guys explain canadian mity might?

Or are we going to get out the "what everyone else said" book. Oh wait people say MM is good. woops.
LOL, read. I didn't say ruderalis was never mixed with any other strains. I said it has never been mixed to INCREASE POTENCY. That is because you don't mix ruderalis to increase potency, you interbreed with a ruderalis to increase resilience and/or modify photeperiod time.
 

Bighill

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Yup you are correct you said that. I just got the guns out, i am not going to stand with the misinformation anymore.

The thing that gets me stirred is that there are people selecting for potency, it is only a matter of time. I've seen microscope shots that SHOW the thc beeing produced in the glands. You can see the amber clearly. Which ARE the psycoactive bits!

So i have a hard time seeing people opinions beeing swayed by people who have ZERO exp with them.
 

LVsFINEST

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Again wrong.. Shantibahbah mixed it in the 80s. yawn. How do you think ruderalis skunk came to be? And if auto is so bad how do you guys explain canadian mity might?

Or are we going to get out the "what everyone else said" book. Oh wait people say MM is good. woops.

It's so fucking obvious NO ONE here has grown the auto affie cut..

WHERE are the people who have REAL auto EXP?!!?!
Hell, I never even said they were bad. All I implied was that they could never be as potent as their non-auto counterparts.

WHERE are the people who can READ and UNDERSTAND?!!?!
 

CaliMedicated

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Thanks for the responses.. so with AF seeds you cannot take cuttings from them? is this because they start flowering before they all big enough to cut?

Lets all keep the comments positive.. if your not an AF fan thats fine. but lets all help each other out.

Thanks
 

Bighill

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I don't expect you to see where i am comming from. However there weren't many haulmarks of you beeing pro auto or even answering the mans ?.

I know where i went wrong, but i stand by my position.
 

Bighill

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They will root but they go into flower almost right away. I seen a good thread on RIU from a guy who takes AF clones on the regular. They seemed to reveg almost.

Autos are pretty much seed only. Which is why you seen them in fem form so often.

I would recomend reading alot of grow reports on what auto you are thinking of buying. Alot of crap breeding going on.
 

CaliMedicated

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Look autos havent been around as long as photoperiod strains so it is only natural they dont have as much of a following. All strains can be made out to be great or very poor depending on ones experiences with it or lack of experience. If grown correctly and in respectable conditions according to the plant quality auto strains are right at the top with regular strains as far as thc production. Ive been working with autos for the last few years and have several crosses that i would put up against any non auto any day of the week. Most of how the plant yields and its potency all depend on the ability of the person who grew it and quality genetics. A bag seed if grown right can be respectable smoke. I dont think that anyone here should down anothes opinion on a strain auto or not. We are all here to ask and learn and have a good time. My prized cross is amnesia haze x nyc diesel x lowryder. In 90 days from seed to bud it grows to 49 inch max n average yield is 4 to 5 oz of kick ass bud that any true smoker would love and appreciate n pay top dollar for. So to say just because its an auto its not worth the time and shit smoke is just dumb. They are fun and fast and experienced growers and newbs can both get enjoyment out of growing n breeding them try it you might just have fun.
Great, thanks for the great write up
 

Kerovan

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Thanks for the responses.. so with AF seeds you cannot take cuttings from them? is this because they start flowering before they all big enough to cut?

Lets all keep the comments positive.. if your not an AF fan thats fine. but lets all help each other out.

Thanks
autos flower by age, not light cycle. The cutting you take are as old as the mother. So they will be flowering also. You cannot prolong vegging with photoperiod since they automatically flower at a certain age.
 

LVsFINEST

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I did freely admit to never growing an auto. But that doesn't mean I don't know about them. I would have and could have answered the OPs question but it was answered a few times over before I stumbled onto this thread.

It's one thing to say auto's suck. But it's completely different to say that auto's can never be as potent as their non-auto ancestors.
 

CaliMedicated

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autos flower by age, not light cycle. The cutting you take are as old as the mother. So they will be flowering also. You cannot prolong vegging with photoperiod since they automatically flower at a certain age.
Ok gotcha.. its all starting to make since to me.
 

Kerovan

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You should go try some new stuff.. LR#1 came out a LOOONNGGGG time ago.. Anyone can read some shit and have an opinion, anyone REAL finds out for them sleves.. lmfao..... You guys really need a new argument, not potent.. low yeild.. omfg... I have personally grown bette autos than some of the 12/12 i have.. And i have access to some good cuts. Just the fact you guys slam them shows how little you know on the subject. The only reason you come chime in on auto threads is becasue it's easy pickens on the Posts counter. Show me that you have grown them, and THEN tell me how close it is to "ditch" weed.. my lord the disinformation that goes around..

Have you even seen ditch weed? Have you even seen an auto??? The differences are more than miles friend.
learn to read. I did not slam them, I did not call autos ditchweed. All I said was they have ditchweed in their heritage. This is what makes them autoflower. And yes, I have seen plenty of ditchweed. I never said autos were garbage. I even pointed out one use that I see for them.

and you said it yourself. you have grown better autos than "some" of the 12/12. Have you ever grown an auto that was better than ALL photo period plants you have grown?
 

CaliMedicated

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I'm giving this round a shot at AF, then i can compare and let you duys know. ordered AF seeds from attitude. anyone on here uses the AF seeds from attitude?
 

Rob Roy

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Do I really need to taste a turd to know it tastes like shit?

I've never tried autos before, yet I'm right with kingofqueen. I've always been a 'quality over quantity' type of person tho.
In order to know how shit tastes or turd for that matter it seems logical that you WOULD have to taste one or the other assuming they taste alike. Now concerning Autoflowers....some might be better than you think.
 

chirim2003

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I just wanna say hi to everyone and say that several times in this thread there have been a couple of common misconceptions stated about autos. First ofg no one ever vrossed ruderalis with any non automatic to increase thc in a ruderalis. They have done the crosses to make a hybrid plant with the characteristics of the two. The only gene they wanted and selectivly bred for with ruderalis was the autoflowering gene. That brings me to point two that the thc content in autoflowers is up with the best non autos and improving every day when grown properly and being selectivly bred to make it a better plant. The only downfall ive seen with some of the auto strains is when a breeder doesnt do it thoroughly and hurries the process and you get unstable seeds. It happens. I myself take the time to make sure they are right before i share them with friends. They will be a hugh market for a long time because they are fun, interesting, and getting better every day.
 

kingofqueen

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Next please, move to the end of the line.

You should go try some new stuff.. LR#1 came out a LOOONNGGGG time ago.. Anyone can read some shit and have an opinion, anyone REAL finds out for them sleves.. lmfao..... You guys really need a new argument, not potent.. low yeild.. omfg... I have personally grown bette autos than some of the 12/12 i have.. And i have access to some good cuts. Just the fact you guys slam them shows how little you know on the subject. The only reason you come chime in on auto threads is becasue it's easy pickens on the Posts counter. Show me that you have grown them, and THEN tell me how close it is to "ditch" weed.. my lord the disinformation that goes around..

Have you even seen ditch weed? Have you even seen an auto??? The differences are more than miles friend.

@Calimeds, they flower without a change in light sched. Outdoors they mature faster than alot of strains. Done before the hunters get out. Your need will drive what direction you go auto or 12/12.



How is this small?


This doesn't look like ditch weed to me!





If not one pionered with 12/12 strains they wouldn't be where they are. So we shouldn't work with autos because why?
Did you come in here to argue with me or help the op ? Jeez
 
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