Kerovan
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well, actually you didn't. I use 400W. And their price for the 400W with shipping adds up to the retail price in stores around me...
but anyway, this thread you started is good overall. Not knocking you in any way.
Specs And Comparisons For 600w HPS Bulbs
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well, actually you didn't. I use 400W. And their price for the 400W with shipping adds up to the retail price in stores around me...
but anyway, this thread you started is good overall. Not knocking you in any way.
MedHeadGRWR
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Keep in mind there is debate as to how well the Hortilux bulbs work with electronic/digital ballasts
FAQ'sQ: Do HORTILUX lamps work on electronic/digital ballasts?
A: HORTILUX lamps work equally well as any competitive brand on electronic ballasts. Performance really depends on the quality of the electronic ballast and the ability of the ballast manufacture to produce consistently good products.
Magnetic, core and coil ballasts are made to conform to ANSI Standards. ANSI is the American National Standards Institute that establishes specifications on how specific HID lamps are to perform electrically. This designation ensures that all lamp brands work interchangeably on the ANSI compatible ballasts. For example, all major brand LU1000 lamps comply with ANSI S52, and when matched with a ballast designated ANSI S52, the consumer is assured the lamp and ballast are matched correctly. All major lamp brands currently comply with these ANSI standards, and have for decades.
[FONT="]Most electronic ballasts do not comply with ANSI ratings. This means that each e.ballast brand can be different. Compound this with actual variations in the production runs from the same manufacturer/brand and you can see why system dependability is easily compromised. These are clearly NOT lamp issues but ballast challenges to be improved upon. If you chose to operate our lamp on a ballast that does not meet these ANSI specifications, lamp life and performance MAY be dramatically reduced. Since the quality of artificial light is paramount to successful plant photosynthesis and optimum growth, it would seem ill-advised to compromise lamp performance in favor of unproven ballast technology.[/FONT]
FAQ'sQ: Do HORTILUX lamps work on electronic/digital ballasts?
A: HORTILUX lamps work equally well as any competitive brand on electronic ballasts. Performance really depends on the quality of the electronic ballast and the ability of the ballast manufacture to produce consistently good products.
Magnetic, core and coil ballasts are made to conform to ANSI Standards. ANSI is the American National Standards Institute that establishes specifications on how specific HID lamps are to perform electrically. This designation ensures that all lamp brands work interchangeably on the ANSI compatible ballasts. For example, all major brand LU1000 lamps comply with ANSI S52, and when matched with a ballast designated ANSI S52, the consumer is assured the lamp and ballast are matched correctly. All major lamp brands currently comply with these ANSI standards, and have for decades.
[FONT="]Most electronic ballasts do not comply with ANSI ratings. This means that each e.ballast brand can be different. Compound this with actual variations in the production runs from the same manufacturer/brand and you can see why system dependability is easily compromised. These are clearly NOT lamp issues but ballast challenges to be improved upon. If you chose to operate our lamp on a ballast that does not meet these ANSI specifications, lamp life and performance MAY be dramatically reduced. Since the quality of artificial light is paramount to successful plant photosynthesis and optimum growth, it would seem ill-advised to compromise lamp performance in favor of unproven ballast technology.[/FONT]
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a guy named mouthmeetsoap on here dug this up:
There are compatibility issues with the 600 watt bulbs;
"My name is Jason and I am the founder of Lumatek Electronic ballasts. We try to stay away from these forums but I think this is important. Some customers are currently experiencing problems when using some 600 watt lamps. I do want to point out that the Hortilux Solarmax Grolux issue applies to ALL brand of electronic ballasts.
The lumatek ballast is a true Eballast. It has a micro processor cpu. This cpu allows the ballast to make adjustments according to the lamp that is being used. A eballast can compensate for degrading bulbs and slight power fluctuations. It can also sense the exact specifications of the lamps it is using. the Lumatek ballast is up to 27% brighter than a core and coil ballast. We do have one problem with this technology the cpu can not detect the lamp until AFTER the initial ignition. Once the bulb is lit the ballast can then take over and drive the bulb to its exact specifications. Industry specifications for a 600 watt hps lamp call for a 4000volt ignition pulse. This is what Lumatek and all other digital ballast use for a starting voltage. Hortilux ignition used to be 2000-3000 volts even though this is less then the ignition pulse of the Lumatek we did not experience any problems with the Hortilux I have lots of customers with Hortilux lamps that are over a year old However about 6 months ago we started to notice an increase in Hortilux failures. We also noticed that the font of the text printed at the base of the bulb had changed. When we tested this lamp we found that the ignition range was lowered to 1500 volts. These new Hortilux lamps are different then the ones we originally designed the ballast with and have a higher frailer rate. The problems that customers are having are NOT a ballast problem they are a bulb problem the Hortilux 600 watt is not designed to industry specifications regarding ignition pulse. Furthermore it is also manufactured with a special gas in the arc tube that no other lamp maker in the world uses. The Hortilux lamp design is unique. We are currently adapting our ballast for this bulb it may require a switch to lower the ignition pulse for Hortilux.
Solarmax and Growlux lamps are the opposite problem these lamps require a 5000-6000 volt ignition pulse Again the standard ignition for a 600 is 4000 volts. The Lumtek ballast can light these bulbs with the 4K pulse for a while however over time the lamps degrade and they require more and more voltage to start after a few months the bulbs will not ignite in any digital ballast. "
There are compatibility issues with the 600 watt bulbs;
"My name is Jason and I am the founder of Lumatek Electronic ballasts. We try to stay away from these forums but I think this is important. Some customers are currently experiencing problems when using some 600 watt lamps. I do want to point out that the Hortilux Solarmax Grolux issue applies to ALL brand of electronic ballasts.
The lumatek ballast is a true Eballast. It has a micro processor cpu. This cpu allows the ballast to make adjustments according to the lamp that is being used. A eballast can compensate for degrading bulbs and slight power fluctuations. It can also sense the exact specifications of the lamps it is using. the Lumatek ballast is up to 27% brighter than a core and coil ballast. We do have one problem with this technology the cpu can not detect the lamp until AFTER the initial ignition. Once the bulb is lit the ballast can then take over and drive the bulb to its exact specifications. Industry specifications for a 600 watt hps lamp call for a 4000volt ignition pulse. This is what Lumatek and all other digital ballast use for a starting voltage. Hortilux ignition used to be 2000-3000 volts even though this is less then the ignition pulse of the Lumatek we did not experience any problems with the Hortilux I have lots of customers with Hortilux lamps that are over a year old However about 6 months ago we started to notice an increase in Hortilux failures. We also noticed that the font of the text printed at the base of the bulb had changed. When we tested this lamp we found that the ignition range was lowered to 1500 volts. These new Hortilux lamps are different then the ones we originally designed the ballast with and have a higher frailer rate. The problems that customers are having are NOT a ballast problem they are a bulb problem the Hortilux 600 watt is not designed to industry specifications regarding ignition pulse. Furthermore it is also manufactured with a special gas in the arc tube that no other lamp maker in the world uses. The Hortilux lamp design is unique. We are currently adapting our ballast for this bulb it may require a switch to lower the ignition pulse for Hortilux.
Solarmax and Growlux lamps are the opposite problem these lamps require a 5000-6000 volt ignition pulse Again the standard ignition for a 600 is 4000 volts. The Lumtek ballast can light these bulbs with the 4K pulse for a while however over time the lamps degrade and they require more and more voltage to start after a few months the bulbs will not ignite in any digital ballast. "
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just fired up my brand new 600w lumatek HPS bulbs and wow there bright it also seems like the light is whiter than my sunmaster bulb(witch has a really yellow light).. but this comparison is not really fair cause my sunmaster is almost a year old
MedHeadGRWR
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Question for anyone running the Lumatek switchable electronic ballast...do I need 600w bulbs if I plan to run at 400w or do you I a 600w bulb when running 600w and a 400w when running 400?
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you can have a 600 watt and dim it to 400 with the switch as for just getting a 400, i think you can do that but im not sure and my room is dark right now... i know it says on the ballast but i will have to check tomorrow morning....ill post it tomorrow
MedHeadGRWR
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Perfect. Thanks...I was hoping to just be able to run the one 600 so that works for me. Thanks again
MedHeadGRWR
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Just thought I would throw this in here
600watt High par Lumatek bulb $64.99 EACH http://www.ezhydroshop.com/products/Lumatek-600W-HPS-High%2dPar-Output-Bulb.html
I ordered 6 and got a $15 discount so it ended up $65.47 EACH SHIPPED
Also for those looking for good deals on 400watt Hortilux bulbs $59.95 each http://www.hydroempire.com/store/watt-hortilux-bulb-54000-lumens-p-102.html
Also, Hydroempire has good deals on nutes and any order over $200 is free shipping!!
600watt High par Lumatek bulb $64.99 EACH http://www.ezhydroshop.com/products/Lumatek-600W-HPS-High%2dPar-Output-Bulb.html
I ordered 6 and got a $15 discount so it ended up $65.47 EACH SHIPPED
Also for those looking for good deals on 400watt Hortilux bulbs $59.95 each http://www.hydroempire.com/store/watt-hortilux-bulb-54000-lumens-p-102.html
Also, Hydroempire has good deals on nutes and any order over $200 is free shipping!!
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sweet dude + REP for that info..... we need more people like you willing to contribute useful info like that
Thanks
Thanks
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no problem glad i could help
justlearning73
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Coreyb, thanks for taking the time to do this. I wish i would have had this before I bought my first bulb. Well it came in the 600 kit i purchased. I upgraded to the Hortilux bulb, with the lum eballast. The bulb only lasted a couple of months. I am currently using the Plantmax, so far so good. It was a budget thing. I grow for personal use and support my parents. I dont sell. So money is a big thing for me. + rep
MedHeadGRWR
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Thanks. Glad to contribute
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good info keepin it alive.......bump
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sub'd right on theres not much to sub to though
justlearning73
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RJ thanks for doing the review. Can you give some of the basics, how much, from where. That sort of thing.
this discount hydroponics store has the lumatek 600W for 64.95. They also have a sale on advanced nutrients
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hey sweet dude its not letting me edit my original post but +rep for that. i just wish you would of told me a week ago. i just ordered two
Well I got the bulb (400watter) from EZhydroshop.com for $62 & change shipped to my door. I got it running on the newest lumatek ballast I got from plantlightinghydroponics.com for $125, and I have it running in a Lumesun reflector.
As for the bulb, I think Lumatek made this bulb to run on their ballast on the superlumens channel. When it's running on SL, the light gets a little more white, and not so yellow, which is why I think it has such a high PAR rating. It's covering the full spectrum. Since it's running the full spectrum, I'm trying to veg my little ladies under it as well, let's see how it goes. When I bought the ballast, I figured Lumatek knows Lumatek, so why not cop the same brand bulb too...
As for the bulb, I think Lumatek made this bulb to run on their ballast on the superlumens channel. When it's running on SL, the light gets a little more white, and not so yellow, which is why I think it has such a high PAR rating. It's covering the full spectrum. Since it's running the full spectrum, I'm trying to veg my little ladies under it as well, let's see how it goes. When I bought the ballast, I figured Lumatek knows Lumatek, so why not cop the same brand bulb too...