NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow

[luckyskindaguy]

Sunny and hot Florida. The house is too hot to have the A down to 72, that would cost too much on the power bill. I use a window AC in the room so the closet has cool air incoming. It's not the lights throwing off heat, it is radiating from the attic above into the closet.

plsfoldthx: I sometimes think I have choosen the wrong path. I could have spent 200 and gotten an hid set up. I may still order one.

For as tight a space as you have, I don't think HPS would work since you are wanting the veg and flower stacked. I do think you may have jumped into the deep end a little quickly though. Nothing wrong with that, you just learn how to swim a lot faster

At this point you have made the investment, time to reap the rewards. Trust me, it is all worth it in the end and if LED gives you peace of mind don't worry about the negative posts. The first time I grew (2 plants without topping or anything with the lighting fixed to the ceiling of the cab) I only got half an ounce. I continued to learn new methods as well as correct my errors and am now yielding more with each grow!

When you make mistakes, and we all make them, learn from them. When you learn from one, you are likely to make others too. Don't let that get you down! Once you have made and learned from mistakes and tried new methods you will find what works for you. THAT'S when you find your groove.

You have come along quite a bit since you started posting. I know you read a lot before you took the growing plunge, but there is something to be said about first hand experience that trumps all else I feel. The grow I have going now is the only one without "problems" and I am still learning from it

I will say this: If you go into your harvest wanting good smokable bud, you shouldn't be disappointed. The way I looked at it was, I saw how much my gf was spending each month on bud (about $160-200) and I found a way to spend less and get more. She even likes it better than anything she has smoked before or since in the last 2 years. Don't worry about if another light CAN yield more because we all know there are. But there is a trade off of one kind or another.

I have no doubt, if you avoid making serious errors, you will have some good bud to be thankful for near Thanksgiving! Keep the faith

 

[plsfoldthx]

Sunny and hot Florida. The house is too hot to have the A down to 72, that would cost too much on the power bill. I use a window AC in the room so the closet has cool air incoming. It's not the lights throwing off heat, it is radiating from the attic above into the closet.

plsfoldthx: I sometimes think I have choosen the wrong path. I could have spent 200 and gotten an hid set up. I may still order one.

First, your plants look great.

Second, if you live in an apartment or do not have a concrete basement to grow in, the risk of fire always looms over your head with HID bulbs. A drop of water and an exploding bulb could ruin your life. So what if you get slightly less yields... I mean you're not growing to sell right? You can always combine your LED with a 70W HPS security light or a small 150W system later on if you feel like and get far less heat. I think LEDs plus a couple CFLs are a great way to go. What if you go away for a week... you don't have to worry about how your super hot HID system is doing. That peace of mind is money well worth spent.

Plus the plants look so cool under the purple light

 

[luckyskindaguy]

First, your plants look great.

Second, if you live in an apartment or do not have a concrete basement to grow in, the risk of fire always looms over your head with HID bulbs. A drop of water and an exploding bulb could ruin your life. So what if you get slightly less yields... I mean you're not growing to sell right? You can always combine your LED with a 70W HPS security light or a small 150W system later on if you feel like and get far less heat. I think LEDs plus a couple CFLs are a great way to go. What if you go away for a week... you don't have to worry about how your super hot HID system is doing. That peace of mind is money well worth spent.

Plus the plants look so cool under the purple light

I love that about LED. I have left the plants alone for 3 days while I went camping and had total peace of mind and knew the plants would be fine. Timers on the hydro and low heat lighting.... good stuff

 

[1freezy]

Plants r looking good bro!

 

[oOBe RyeOo]

Well you wont hear nothing from me ive been following but i just want to see the end results.But i do get your frustration having to deal with this all the time.Good luck and keep the pics coming.

Dude, don't feel sorry for this guy. Every thread he goes to... ends up arguing with people in them.

 

[Serapis]

Dude, don't feel sorry for this guy. Every thread he goes to... ends up arguing with people in them.

My first troll!.... lol... welcome back.... I don't know about every thread, but it seems the one's you are in end up that way. I wonder why that is?

Thanks for dropping bye...

 

[oOBe RyeOo]

Definitely gonna stick to my MH after watching this grow

 

[Serapis]

Definitely gonna stick to my MH after watching this grow

Coming from a real pro with 0 grows, like yourself, That means a lot to me, Thanks!

 

[reefcouple]

Great thread Serapis.. still reading and I have alot to learn about LED's.. I can tell by your thread you've studied LED's extensively.. Something I think I need to do.. And as I understand it, LED's are coming a long way in a short time..

Thanks for the work you've put into all this, you've convinced me theres better options out there..

 

[plsfoldthx]

They've dropped in price by half in one year

 

[luckyskindaguy]

Hey Serapis, just chopped. You should come check out the pics. Biggest nugs I have ever grown and more of them! The largest were the ones that were right under the LED.

 

[Serapis]

My Decision:

OK, I have made a decision on LED lighting.

The side panels do not seem to encourage any lower branching. I feel that CFLs would fit the bill here nicely, in some 8" reflector dishes, 2700k and 23w for flowering, 6500k for vegging...

The 120 watt overheads do work nicely, but not greatly. For a hobbyist with a couple plants a grow, tucked away in a closet somewhere, these lights fit the bill. If you need to sell a few OZ per grow to cover expenses, pay a light bill, etc, you really need power. The LED lights quickly lose intensity when raised to cover more than a single adult plant. They also seem to take longer to finish cycles with more plants.

I have ordered a 600w digital hps system with an air cooled hood. I'll have a 600w to light up a 9' sq area. Thats 95k lumen (HTG High Uotput) which is over 10k lumen a square foot. I can't wait to get my next grow on.

I have not given up on LED lighting. For hobbyists with a small closet or grow box, they are ideal. The do veg great and they produce good bud, just look at my bud shots from only 3 weeks in 12/12 from an earlier post. My concern is turn around time. I'm in a great financial bind and I need to be able to pull a 1/2 pound every 4-5 weeks, for the next several grows, which I can easily do if I get the hang of cloning. (My latest clones all went yellow and never seemed to take in my foliar feeding. I shoulda used penetrator in my foliar feed ) Next up is an ezcloner

I do want to thank everyone that has been watching this thread with interest. I look forward to posting the LED dry weight results in about a month. In the mean time, do I order a tent for the 600w??

 

[wyteberrywidow]

My Decision:

OK, I have made a decision on LED lighting.

The side panels do not seem to encourage any lower branching. I feel that CFLs would fit the bill here nicely, in some 8" reflector dishes, 2700k and 23w for flowering, 6500k for vegging...

The 120 watt overheads do work nicely, but not greatly. For a hobbyist with a couple plants a grow, tucked away in a closet somewhere, these lights fit the bill. If you need to sell a few OZ per grow to cover expenses, pay a light bill, etc, you really need power. The LED lights quickly lose intensity when raised to cover more than a single adult plant. They also seem to take longer to finish cycles with more plants.

I have ordered a 600w digital hps system with an air cooled hood. I'll have a 600w to light up a 9' sq area. Thats 95k lumen (HTG High Uotput) which is over 10k lumen a square foot. I can't wait to get my next grow on.

I have not given up on LED lighting. For hobbyists with a small closet or grow box, they are ideal. The do veg great and they produce good bud, just look at my bud shots from only 3 weeks in 12/12 from an earlier post. My concern is turn around time. I'm in a great financial bind and I need to be able to pull a 1/2 pound every 4-5 weeks, for the next several grows, which I can easily do if I get the hang of cloning. (My latest clones all went yellow and never seemed to take in my foliar feeding. I shoulda used penetrator in my foliar feed ) Next up is an ezcloner

I do want to thank everyone that has been watching this thread with interest. I look forward to posting the LED dry weight results in about a month. In the mean time, do I order a tent for the 600w??

Now you are moving to the big boys.I would get a tent for the 600 unless you can section off a 4x4 space with wood and panda film.
I wouldnt waste my time buying a ez cloner.If you are building it then fine but to buy it is overpriced.Cloning is very easy i just use a humidome and cups of seed starter soil my clones usually take 7-190 days to root.

 

[Spoc]

Serapis..thanks for the honest review of your LED equipment. Would adding an additional 120w LED be an option for you? It seems as if your half way to where you want to be. I would upgrade to a tent only if you need more space and/or have insufficient ventilation. Followed your grow from the start..glad to see LEDs can stand on their own given the right space.

 

[wyteberrywidow]

With a 600 you will easily pull a half pound every month= a pound every 2 months.Good luck

 

[WWShadow]

well, we still have Grumpy Old Dreamer's grow with the kessil led see how it does.
Thanks for documenting your LED experience. You still have a month to go... I'll be watchin'

 

[tobikan.judan]

you can't get good LED's on the cheap. I'm using a stealth grow sg602, and so far my plants are budding very nicely. good try though, someday good LED lighting will be available (affordable) for everybody. good luck with your grow

 

[Grumpy Old Dreamer]

For a hobbyist with a couple plants a grow, tucked away in a closet somewhere,

... well, you just described me perfectly - definitely a hobbyist ... 2 plants at a time (when my second Kessil arrives) hopefully 14 strains over the next couple of years.

Thanks for getting me interested in LEDs - I'm hoping that the kessil lights have the penetration that your LEDs seem to have been lacking .... time will tell.

I look forward to posting the LED dry weight results in about a month

Does this mean that your current grow will be completed under LED lights only?

 

[Serapis]

Yes, I do intend to finish off the grow using LEDs. I still think they are the future of grow lighting, however they need to get some penetration. The lights G.O.D. just got may do just that. They sure seem powerful enough in the pics.

I'm not abandoning LED, just going to use it elsewhere, maybe nursery for vegging. I need to raise some serious funds, my area is dry, there is a need I can fill, but i have to be able to keep turning it.

I'm looking at the Secret Jardin 150 for the 600W. It looks to be a nice tent.

 

[luckyskindaguy]

My Decision:

OK, I have made a decision on LED lighting.

The side panels do not seem to encourage any lower branching. I feel that CFLs would fit the bill here nicely, in some 8" reflector dishes, 2700k and 23w for flowering, 6500k for vegging...

The 120 watt overheads do work nicely, but not greatly. For a hobbyist with a couple plants a grow, tucked away in a closet somewhere, these lights fit the bill. If you need to sell a few OZ per grow to cover expenses, pay a light bill, etc, you really need power. The LED lights quickly lose intensity when raised to cover more than a single adult plant. They also seem to take longer to finish cycles with more plants.

I have ordered a 600w digital hps system with an air cooled hood. I'll have a 600w to light up a 9' sq area. Thats 95k lumen (HTG High Uotput) which is over 10k lumen a square foot. I can't wait to get my next grow on.

I have not given up on LED lighting. For hobbyists with a small closet or grow box, they are ideal. The do veg great and they produce good bud, just look at my bud shots from only 3 weeks in 12/12 from an earlier post. My concern is turn around time. I'm in a great financial bind and I need to be able to pull a 1/2 pound every 4-5 weeks, for the next several grows, which I can easily do if I get the hang of cloning. (My latest clones all went yellow and never seemed to take in my foliar feeding. I shoulda used penetrator in my foliar feed ) Next up is an ezcloner

I do want to thank everyone that has been watching this thread with interest. I look forward to posting the LED dry weight results in about a month. In the mean time, do I order a tent for the 600w??

I am constantly vexed by you Serapis. You change your mind and jump back an forth too quickly it seems.

Was this always your intention to get these weights or is this just a recent development? IIRC you were just growing for personal use, right?

If you were trying to pull those kinds of weights for the beginning, you were on the wrong track from the get go it seems.

Do you plan on just revamping the current space?