NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow

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Serapis

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starting 3rd week of 12/12

The plants are sleeping as I write this, I'll post up some pics later in the day. I've stopped adding Open Sesame and have begun to feed with Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom and Big Grow and Beastie Bloomz. The plants are really reacting well to the nutes. I should have a flush coming up soon. The tips of the colas all have beautiful looking pistils and the colas are stretching upwards daily. The cola stems have also gotten really thick, indicating she is preparing to hold some weight.

The lower tips are budding as well, which is surprising given that the grow is LED and the lights don't penetrate much. I would love to drop some 2700k CFLs down beside the plants right now, but I have sworn this grow would be pure LED for scientific purposes, yield be damned. Depending on outcome, I may add other lighting on my scrog grow next.

I fed the plants yesterday and the nute soup PH was at 7.0 going in AND running off at 7.0! First time I have had that happen! The lime is working! I top dressed with dolomite lime about 3 weeks ago and it shows now. No PH problems. ?The readings on run off fluctuated between 7.0 and 7.1. Next watering I'll PH at 6.5 and stay there until flush.

The LED lights have to be raised an inch every two days. The dog collar choke chains are working great. An inch is two links. The canopy is even. Every plant is now the exact same height. That surprised me, as Runt was the biggest at one time. All plants have at least two colas, some have 4. I have learned with my newer plants to prune out the fan leaves that shade the two late colas. If you don't, they get stunted and eventually choked out by leaves. The next batch will all have 4 strong colas. Experience is a nice asset. :clap:

Seedlings:

The new plants continue to amaze me. They were only fed once and that was when they were in the solo cups and showed the first sign of yellowing. Once I transplanted into Miracle Grow Organic Choice and worm castings, they have really taken off. They are growing much faster than the first bunch ever did, I'm wondering how they'll do vegging another 6 weeks while the others flower. I'm not feeding them, except for Cal-Mag once a week. I'm letting MG do the feeding for now along with worm castings. Those that hate on MG are misguided. I recommend it strongly, especially the Organic Choice product. I do amend with MG Perlite. :leaf:

clones:

I'm proud of the clones this time. The clones are now 9 days old. Not a single leaf has begun to yellow yet, so I'm not near planting yet. I have been removing the dome and misting and allowing the dome to stay off for 3-5 minutes twice a day. I also removed all standing water from the tray. The only thing in my misting water is SuperThrive. The clone cuttings are being rooted in Rock wool cubes and this time I squeezed out excessive water. I'm really impressed with these cloned tops. They look great and they will be fine plants.

When I lift the dome off the tray, I can feel the humidity and heat rise. The smell is incredible as well, a very strong herbal smell. I can't wait to get these into soil. :weed:

I promise to get pictures up in a bit. I have 5 bubblelicious seeds left and 15 plants going strong! I'm hoping to not need the seeds for awhile.
 

luckyskindaguy

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Sounds great Serapis. Isn't it a great feeling when you overcome problems from a previous grow? I love it! Keep on learning and keep us updated!

(btw GreenNerd420 was added to my ignore list, let's just move on without acknowledging him)
 

mr2shim

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It's really sad to see people crap on someones grow journal regardless of how big a douche the OP is or not. It's still his journal, you should respect him and his stance on LED. If you think your CFL grow will crush his LED grow, that's fine and dandy, but at least be an adult and not post it. I guess I expect too much from people now days. Decency and respect are all but gone from society. I have a hard time believing a lot of people posting in this thread are old enough to drive a car much less grow.

In short, if you don't like him or his thread. Unsubscribe and stop posting.
 

mr2shim

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This is not a journal, this is in the open forum, and as I said if OP spent more time growing and less time being troll bait it would behoove him.
Do you consider post #490 troll bait? Because to me it looked like he was updating his status on his plants. The the very next post a gent named greennerd420 posted something that had nothing to do with that particular post, then on post 492 someone posts a reply to it, then you post another in my opinion useless comment.

So who's trolling?

Like I said, if you don't like him or his posts, stop clicking his thread and replying. It's not like he's making you reply. You are no better than him, in fact you are worse by falling into what you consider "troll bait"

Is it really hard to act like an adult on the internet?
 

mr2shim

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Two things I've learned ITT.
1 - CFLs are great for vegging
2 - Serapis is a huge douche

I predict My 250w CFL will crush the LED yeild, if (which I doubt he will) he even gets to chop.
I see a major problem with the OP but since Serapis is Omnipotent he already knows this but is too busy being troll bait to correct it.

Good luck looking forward to another LED fail.
It's funny to read that post then read your signature. Bit of an oxymoron isn't it?
 

TheJointProject

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I guess I expect too much from people now days. Decency and respect are all but gone from society.
Unfortunately, I believe you are right. Seems like some people are just here to cause trouble instead of using it as a peaceful place for us to observe, learn and share what we ALL love.

that being said I would suggest to serapis that he take Lucky's advice and just put him on your ignore list. If you treat the "trolls" as children like they act and ignore them completely then they will get bored and go away. And even if they don't, at least you don't have to see what they have to say.
 

Serapis

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I couldn't get enough odor control from ona. I finally fixed the odors with an ozone generator. I wish I had gone straight to ozone generators rather than wasting money on ona, carbon, ionizers, and sprays.
My ONA got here yesterday and I must say, I'm quite impressed with it. I have a one quart gar of the gel crystals and it is just cracked open. You can smell it all the way across my house. The slight smell of plants is gone, entirely. For those growing a small crop, I have to recommend you try ONA before spending $100+ on a commercial scrubber. I still vent outside, but the slight whiff I used to pick up of herb is gone now.
 

Serapis

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Sounds great Serapis. Isn't it a great feeling when you overcome problems from a previous grow? I love it! Keep on learning and keep us updated!

(btw GreenNerd420 was added to my ignore list, let's just move on without acknowledging him)
Thanks, and thanks to all that tired of trolls. I have updated my ignore list as advised.
 

Serapis

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Here are the promised Pics. Took forever to get in using my VPN and proxy. I hope the uploads go through.

Have a nice weekend.

Quick correction, the update cited that this was start of week 3 of flowering, actually this is week 2 of flowering and week 3 of 12/12.
 

Serapis

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This may be a stupid question but why use a proxy?

Plants are looking very nice.
Thanks for the word. A proxy and VPN allow me to post without revealing my true IP address. Otherwise, I would not be on these boards posting pics. :)
 

Serapis

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That's what I figured, I never though about doing that.
Google "cyberghost VPN"

You'll never surf far from home without it again. I used to use proxy hops, but damn if that didn't take forever and many times, the cookies wouldn't work from one page to the next. Cyberghost is awesome. The free account has 1 gig per month. I made mistake of leaving my email prog running and it downloaded a ton of jokes from a buddy, now I only have like 300 MB left for next 20 days. :(
 

luckyskindaguy

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How far away are the LED panels in your flowering? I know you are scared of burning the plants due to your seedling scare, but I think these guys can handle 6" away if you don't already have them that low. The buds I have under my LED light are crazy fat and larger than ones that get partial light or mostly CFL light. Food for thought!

I actually call all of it flowering once I switch to 12/12, not just when the pistils start showing up.

Do you keep a written journal? Do you have the dates and progress of each seed that cracked? Just curious, might be a good idea for selecting your mother plant(s). Write down the pros and cons as you go along, especially since you have all of the same strain just different specimens.

Your veg plants look SICK! (as in awesome) Nice and full, good color. I hope they don't get too big on you while the others are hogging up the Flowering lights!
 

luckyskindaguy

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Hey Serapis, ever seen this before?

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As you can see, the starter and first leaves at the bottom of the pic, this is the first node and it has 2 whole tops growing out of it! Hehe, I hope she turns out to be a heavy purple female! How crazy would it be if each node did this????? Holy Shit!
 

Serapis

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Thanks for all of the kind words everyone. The LED overheads are about 4" above the flowers. I keep them just high enough to cover all the flower tops. I have some side branching going on too, as I topped right above the second node. Keep an eye on my veg plant updates. I'm trying to get 4 colas per pot so if you catch me slacking from that, call it out. :)

Lucky, that is a wild photo. Nice branching! :) but you probably would never see that in an LED grow.
 

Magnificient

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Google "cyberghost VPN"

You'll never surf far from home without it again. I used to use proxy hops, but damn if that didn't take forever and many times, the cookies wouldn't work from one page to the next. Cyberghost is awesome. The free account has 1 gig per month. I made mistake of leaving my email prog running and it downloaded a ton of jokes from a buddy, now I only have like 300 MB left for next 20 days. :(
Got it, and thank you.
 

luckyskindaguy

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Thanks for all of the kind words everyone. The LED overheads are about 4" above the flowers. I keep them just high enough to cover all the flower tops. I have some side branching going on too, as I topped right above the second node. Keep an eye on my veg plant updates. I'm trying to get 4 colas per pot so if you catch me slacking from that, call it out. :)

Lucky, that is a wild photo. Nice branching! :) but you probably would never see that in an LED grow.
That's just how the seed sprout, I didn't do anything to it! LOL. I have a little more detail about it in my grow but I think it has to do with how the taproot made the plant fall over early in it's life.
 
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