anyone else think we should start TEACHING ppl how to drive?

[Luger187]

i think its pretty retarded to just make sure ppl know the rules of the road, then give them a license. even the driving test is very basic.

we should be teaching ppl how to drive before they get a license. i dont believe every 16 year old deserves a license. they should have experience and the know-how to avoid collisions and other accidents beforehand

what do u guys think?

 

[Youngling]

Just reduce the world population by 90%. Problem solved.

 

[Kodank Moment]

I agree. Also once you hit 60 you should have to take the test AGAIN every 2 years. I don't know how many accidents are attributed to the elderly but I'd guess a lot. It's crazy to do 30 in a 50....its not cool.

 

[VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO]

Just reduce the world population by 90%. Problem solved.

exactly,to many stupid people and knowone to eat them

 

[Luger187]

I agree. Also once you hit 60 you should have to take the test AGAIN every 2 years. I don't know how many accidents are attributed to the elderly but I'd guess a lot. It's crazy to do 30 in a 50....its not cool.

i believe if theyre over 65, u can call the dmv and tell them they r a dangerous driver. u can stay anonymous too(if your a family member). they send a letter to the old guy saying he needs to come do a driving test. if they fail, they lose the license.

but im sure those tests r really easy. turn left here, park there, turn right, etc

 

[Total Head]

round these parts if you're under 18 you can't get a licience unless you complete a driving course and your parent signs something saying you got x amount of drive time outside of the classroom. can't have minors as passengers either. don't get me started on the q-tip heads. i am a huge fan of the elderly but how many crowds of schoolkids have to get mowed down before we quit buying the "i thought it was the brake" line? lawmakers pander to the elderly because they vote in the largest numbers. not going to win over a lot of bingo halls with "agist" legislation but i'm all for an eye exam/driving test at least every 5 years after age 65. my mother is 66 and i can't ride in the car with her any more. if we hang our for the day i have to drive because i get anxiety. she fucking hesitates over EVERYTHING and slams on the brakes frequently. i'm always checking the rearview to make sure we're not going to get rear ended. then she screams about how i don't need to tell her how to drive because she's been doing it for so long. there's no arguing with old people. we need a law or we're all gonna die.

 

[jwn]

I don't think driving stupidity is age specific. How many times have you been driving behind the moron yapping on the cell phone driving the speed limit in the fast lane with 50 cars lined up behind him bumper to bumper and nothing but clear road in front of him? The person who merges onto the highway doing 25mph. The genius that cuts you off then brake checks you and flips you the bird. Personally, I would like to have a couple of machine guns mounted on my hood to clear out the morons on the road.

 

[iStaySmacked]

i dont really care about teens driving cause i never have to wait behind them. I remember when i was 16 i used to drive fast as hell. its the old mother fuckers that need to stay off the roads and use taxis.

 

[VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO]

studies show 90% of people have a bad driving gene.

 

[littleflavio]

hmm not being racist just seeing as i believe how about the korean drivers? this people needs to know how to drive not in general but most of them

 

[Luger187]

I don't think driving stupidity is age specific. How many times have you been driving behind the moron yapping on the cell phone driving the speed limit in the fast lane with 50 cars lined up behind him bumper to bumper and nothing but clear road in front of him? The person who merges onto the highway doing 25mph. The genius that cuts you off then brake checks you and flips you the bird. Personally, I would like to have a couple of machine guns mounted on my hood to clear out the morons on the road.

i dont think it should be age specific either. but we should be making sure that EVERYONE who has a license knows what theyre doing. whether ur 16 or 85, u still follow the same rules

 

[poopoo1964]

EVERY age class has it's share of fucked up, stupid drivers. Just look at DUI studies. We all have been the flipper and the flippy out driving.

 

[The Mastermind]

The problem is we start around the age 14 or 15 when it comes to teaching people how to drive. Let us be honest with ourselves. These individuals are usually full blown into puberty. They're rebellious. They think they're on top of the world. And their own peers are the biggest influence on their lives. We start WAY too late with this process. The best time to start is when they're young. I propose something along the age of 8 or so. I've read articles about driving simulations. With a one time investment, these can be used for years to come. Showing videos of car crashes to younger children and the realities of driving and the possible consequences and so forth would probably go a lot further.

As for old age drivers, I'm fine with them. I go around them. And they're usually not out at dark, so I don't worry too much about it. Let them be unless they pose a risk to the general public.

 

[Luger187]

The problem is we start around the age 14 or 15 when it comes to teaching people how to drive. Let us be honest with ourselves. These individuals are usually full blown into puberty. They're rebellious. They think they're on top of the world. And their own peers are the biggest influence on their lives. We start WAY too late with this process. The best time to start is when they're young. I propose something along the age of 8 or so. I've read articles about driving simulations. With a one time investment, these can be used for years to come. Showing videos of car crashes to younger children and the realities of driving and the possible consequences and so forth would probably go a lot further.

As for old age drivers, I'm fine with them. I go around them. And they're usually not out at dark, so I don't worry too much about it. Let them be unless they pose a risk to the general public.

agreed. obviously we shouldnt let 8 year olds drive, but thatd be great to start teaching them how to that early

 

[tip top toker]

Is it Finland that puts each new young driver on an intensive 6 month course or something mad which teaches them to powerslide in the rain, drive on snow etc etc, unsurprisingly they are all pretty good drivers (their weekend rally thing they do kicks ass, you all use a beat up banger that must be worth less than 2K or soemthing, anyone and everyone drives and races and after the race it is the rules that if you ask someone for their car, they must give it to you, soas not to get rich kids souping up some subaru etc )

As to old people, they should not have to take their test again in my opinion, but people should be a lot more aware that you can phone in for a re-test. I reveresed out of a parking space in a supermarket, but then couldn't complete the 2 point turn, as a car just a couple spaces down started pulling out, reversing towaards me and straight into me, old sod shrugged openly and drove off. Blind sod.


Did anyone read Katie Prices defense while i court over dangerous driving? She was towing a horsebox and police claim she was using a phone, and she drove into oncoing traffic causing two cars to have to swerve out of the way. Here's a quote from a news story.

Explaining why the truck may have swerved as the police patrol followed it along the A23 near Bolney, Price told the court, ‘I’m a typical woman driver. It’s a massive great lorry and I just wasn’t used to driving it.’

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4 children in the back no less.

 

[golddog]

When I was in high school, EVERYONE took the mandatory Drivers Training class. It was more than just one semester. The cars and link trainers were provided by insurance companies.

I believe most states had a program like this. Why these classes were cut, I have no idea.

 

[Total Head]

The problem is we start around the age 14 or 15 when it comes to teaching people how to drive. Let us be honest with ourselves. These individuals are usually full blown into puberty. They're rebellious. They think they're on top of the world. And their own peers are the biggest influence on their lives. We start WAY too late with this process. The best time to start is when they're young. I propose something along the age of 8 or so. I've read articles about driving simulations. With a one time investment, these can be used for years to come. Showing videos of car crashes to younger children and the realities of driving and the possible consequences and so forth would probably go a lot further.

As for old age drivers, I'm fine with them. I go around them. And they're usually not out at dark, so I don't worry too much about it. Let them be unless they pose a risk to the general public.

i really like the idea of education i'm just not sure it would work out in practice. 8 year olds can't reach the pedal, and they don't understand a lot of reality vs. fantasy stuff yet. even older kids don't get it. just the other day (yesterday maybe?) there was a local story about a 14 year old kid who stole a car for a joyride and slammed into and killed a 9 year old girl. all i could think when i heard the story is how much this kid probably won't even realize the magnitude of it till he's older. dumb kids. i think it's bad enough we let them drive at 16. if 16 year olds don't get it with all their "life experience" i don't know if we should be dangling that carrot in front of a younger kid. classroom education is one thing, simulations should be for much older kids imo.

 

[tip top toker]

When I was in high school, EVERYONE took the mandatory Drivers Training class. It was more than just one semester. The cars and link trainers were provided by insurance companies.

I believe most states had a program like this. Why these classes were cut, I have no idea.

Anyone ever do the cycling proficiency test? Cus even kids on pedal bikes don't know what the hell they're meant to be doing, wrong side, no signals you name it. Almost ran a boy of around 15 over the other day, first genuine emergency stop to date.

 

[The Mastermind]

i really like the idea of education i'm just not sure it would work out in practice. 8 year olds can't reach the pedal, and they don't understand a lot of reality vs. fantasy stuff yet. even older kids don't get it. just the other day (yesterday maybe?) there was a local story about a 14 year old kid who stole a car for a joyride and slammed into and killed a 9 year old girl. all i could think when i heard the story is how much this kid probably won't even realize the magnitude of it till he's older. dumb kids. i think it's bad enough we let them drive at 16. if 16 year olds don't get it with all their "life experience" i don't know if we should be dangling that carrot in front of a younger kid. classroom education is one thing, simulations should be for much older kids imo.

I don't think that is actually the case. Children are far smarter than you seem to give them credit for. I've been helping my younger cousins with their homework, and they seem to be tackling more things than I did at their age. The idea isn't so much to teach them how to drive initially, but I don't see why it would hurt to give them simulations. I mean between Need for Speed, Mariokart, and others, what kinds of things are being put into their minds about driving? You crash, and its okay because you can restart. Not the case with life. Starting young is the best means of changing their behavior towards driving. The only way to tell whether or not this works is to wait 10 years and do studies on them. But I think putting up the money is well worth it.

And I go back to one thing: simulation. Their feet can reach the pedals. These simulations are VERY realistic. You get to drive. You feel the impact when you get hit (the entire ride shakes). Think of the ones you see at an arcade when you sit down and so forth. If you put forth rewards of driving at certain speeds, acknowledging street signs, and everything, they will be more than ready when they actually do get their licenses. Dealing with full blown puberty driven teenagers is very difficult. Teaching them to care and realize not to speed and to drive safely is actually fairly hard. They're receiving a sense of freedom, and 6 months is not enough to prepare them for a life-time of driving IMO with others on the road.

 

[Total Head]

I don't think that is actually the case. Children are far smarter than you seem to give them credit for. I've been helping my younger cousins with their homework, and they seem to be tackling more things than I did at their age. The idea isn't so much to teach them how to drive initially, but I don't see why it would hurt to give them simulations. I mean between Need for Speed, Mariokart, and others, what kinds of things are being put into their minds about driving? You crash, and its okay because you can restart. Not the case with life. Starting young is the best means of changing their behavior towards driving. The only way to tell whether or not this works is to wait 10 years and do studies on them. But I think putting up the money is well worth it.

And I go back to one thing: simulation. Their feet can reach the pedals. These simulations are VERY realistic. You get to drive. You feel the impact when you get hit (the entire ride shakes). Think of the ones you see at an arcade when you sit down and so forth. If you put forth rewards of driving at certain speeds, acknowledging street signs, and everything, they will be more than ready when they actually do get their licenses. Dealing with full blown puberty driven teenagers is very difficult. Teaching them to care and realize not to speed and to drive safely is actually fairly hard. They're receiving a sense of freedom, and 6 months is not enough to prepare them for a life-time of driving IMO with others on the road.

i don't doubt the intellectual capacity of children. it's their interpretation of reality that's of concern. there's a reason we wait until certain ages to teach certain things. can't quote a study but i've seen news stories (one was on dateline i think) about hidden camera experiments on kids aged 6-10 to see what would happen if they found a gun. kids as old as 10 played with it like it was a toy pointing at other kids. at least 2 of the parents claimed to have talked to their kids about guns, and the kids knew it was wrong when interviewed about it, but bottom line is if it was a real gun someone would be dead. i'm aware this may actually prove your point in some respects that education is needed, but relying on young kids to use that education in a real life situation i think is another story. same with sex education. there was a local story in the news about kids in 2nd grade getting sex ed, and learning about sexual harrassment, and they had to stop the program because the kids were actually imitating and mocking the lesson actually causing sexual harrasment in class. i agree that education should start before the last gunshot (no pun intended) at age 16, but grade school is too soon.