Dyna-Gro vs General Hydroponics (Dumpster Grow)

[Mazar i Shariff]

What up brother ... I finally found it! I'll be subscribing to these, and look forward to seeing your pic updates and final results of the test!

FYI, I was tellin ya a while back about my buddy who switched from Advanced and Botanicare products to Dyna Gro ONLY, and funny enough when we talked today he said he ended up using the exact three products you recommended to me and are using for your current test. He had AMAZING results. Swears his Sour Bubble Bx3 was as good as it could get, with the God Bud right there next to it in end results. Said overall vegetation, nutrient uptake, & growth rates were awesome

Keep it up! And i'll have my own order of these three on the way in a day or two here so that I can testify to my own results! While it won't be a full grow with them to start, I'll take a pic the day before I start feeding them and keep updating throughout and we'll see how they look in the final 4-6 weeks

One love everybody

 

[SinisterLion]

Nice comparison grow, bravo, been waiting for something comparing Dyna's products. If you visit one of the numerous departments of agriculture websites for the respective states, you can find a heavy metal analysis that shows that a lot of products like the GH lines that do not claim the presence of certain micro nutrients, specifically in this case boron and nickel are actually present in them, however in levels that may not qualify for the labeling standards of all the places they're sold.

Here is a tinyurl link to the Department of Agriculture for Oregon State, if you click on the various GH products you will see what I am talking about. http://tinyurl.com/29am9ax

I first noticed Dyna's products when I was looking in my furthering personal research to find a complete nutrient, I was pleased to see they contain Nickel which has been deemed a required micro-nutrient that is linked to seed maturation, as well as Zinc uptake, Zinc which is linked to Iron, Iron which is critical, this may explain why so many seeds on the open market do not germinate properly, as they may be from massively Nickel deficient mother plants.

Good luck with the completion of the grow, I will be watching avidly, and thank you again.

 

[venacular]

Hey and thanks for all of the info.

I have used GH 3 part Grow, Bloom, Micro in the past and had great results using their waterfarm units. Some of the plants were absolute monsters! I just have questions about the GH nutes your using.

I noticed you said your using 7 different GH nutes in flower. Can you please list those? Also the grow formulas your using? I read all the posts but didn't see your info pertaining to which GH products you are using in this grow-off. Are you using all 7 GH products for this test or only the base 3? Please provide more info about what GH products your using for this grow

I'm going to sub because there is too much good info to miss. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Reckless]

This is a really useful and informative thread. Thanks for documenting this homebrewer!
Subscribed

 

[homebrewer]

Hey and thanks for all of the info.

I have used GH 3 part Grow, Bloom, Micro in the past and had great results using their waterfarm units. Some of the plants were absolute monsters! I just have questions about the GH nutes your using.

I noticed you said your using 7 different GH nutes in flower. Can you please list those? Also the grow formulas your using? I read all the posts but didn't see your info pertaining to which GH products you are using in this grow-off. Are you using all 7 GH products for this test or only the base 3? Please provide more info about what GH products your using for this grow

I'm going to sub because there is too much good info to miss. Thanks for sharing!

I use the following in my GH trays:

Grow
Micro
Bloom
FloraBlend
Floralicious Bloom
Floralicious Plus
KoolBloom
Botanicare's Sweet
KoolBloom Dry

While I've tested each to test their worth, I'd like to steer away from the complicated schedule of all these nutrients. They all work and do make a difference and that's why I use them. I am hoping with this Dynagro grow that I can simplify things and make things easier on myself. Even with all the products listed, DG is still a more complete line at less than half the bottles and cost. Hopefully the results allow me to simplify. But I will say that GH has treated me very well and I don't have much room to complain. Either way, GH gets my respect.

 

[venacular]

I use the following in my GH trays:

Grow
Micro
Bloom
FloraBlend
Floralicious Bloom
Floralicious Plus
KoolBloom
Botanicare's Sweet
KoolBloom Dry

While I've tested each to test their worth, I'd like to steer away from the complicated schedule of all these nutrients. They all work and do make a difference and that's why I use them. I am hoping with this Dynagro grow that I can simplify things and make things easier on myself. Even with all the products listed, DG is still a more complete line at less than half the bottles and cost. Hopefully the results allow me to simplify. But I will say that GH has treated me very well and I don't have much room to complain. Either way, GH gets my respect.

I can see why you want to simplify. Knowing your GH schedule I want the results of this test even more. Do you have any opinion yet on possibly using any other nutes with your future DG grows? I understand you may not yet. I do like to see your ph with DG is very simply kept as I cannot stand constant ph upkeep. Good luck on your grow and thanks again for the comparison.

 

[homebrewer]

I can see why you want to simplify. Knowing your GH schedule I want the results of this test even more. Do you have any opinion yet on possibly using any other nutes with your future DG grows? I understand you may not yet. I do like to see your ph with DG is very simply kept as I cannot stand constant ph upkeep. Good luck on your grow and thanks again for the comparison.

If I were to use anything else in addition to the DG line, it would probably be either the flocalicious plus and/or the florablend. Sea kelp, fulvic acid type stuff. Maybe some Sweet if I don't like what I see at harvest. Who knows? Things are looking healthy so far so hopefully I can just use this stuff up and be done with it.

 

[homebrewer]

Today is day 35 of 60 and I’m pretty happy with the progress thus far. I posted a comparison picture below and have more in the weeks to come, but it looks like the DG line is performing very close to the GH line in regards to resin and weight at this stage. The resin content of the GH bud may be slightly better, but if at harvest there is a difference, I’ll at least know what to add to my DG res to make up that difference. As for potential yield, the DG is performing extremely well and I might give them the slight advantage at this point. Too early to call of course.

The DynaGro pH stability remains rock-solid and is something that just doesn’t move more than 1/10th of a point. My GH res continues to need 3-4 adjustments per week but that’s no surprise after using it as long as I have. I don't have any AK47 shots this week but they look great and are coming along as expected.


The nights are getting cooler here which means the bugs like to come inside. I’ve had some small battles around my room with mites but the interesting thing is that the reservoirs where I’m using Pro-Tekt are staying mite-free. I treat my entire room the same, bomb every 2 weeks and spray once per week. I’ll keep you posted but I’m happy to report that the silicon additive seems to be performing as advertised.

Lastly, I mentioned in a previous post that I've been mixing the grow and bloom formula to get a higher nitrogen content during this flowering phase. This week I'll be cutting the ratio back favoring more of the P and K and the goal is to tapper-off to 100% bloom formula for the last 2 weeks or so. Hopefully that's enough N to support foliage.

Next update in a week. Cheers!







Resin shot:


GH nutes: (dumpster day 36)



DG nutes:

 

[RastaMonsta]

i love the way you break things down.keep up the good work!

 

[Illumination]

Very nice plants and awesome comparison HB...thanx for being the helpful knowledgeable soul that you are...great job

Namaste'

 

[bigsourD]

Do you think the resin differences could be strain? I guess you really wouldn't know for sure. But nice looking plants man! As awlays

 

[homebrewer]

Do you think the resin differences could be strain? I guess you really wouldn't know for sure. But nice looking plants man! As awlays

The comparison pictures are the same strain. Cloned from the same mother. Maybe the GH picture is just a better angle? Better lighting? We'll see in the upcoming weeks. This strain gets unnecessarily frosty so if I have 10% less resin at the end, I'll still have a shiz-load of resin .

Thanks for following along fellas.

 

[bigsourD]

The comparison pictures are the same strain. Cloned from the same mother. Maybe the GH picture is just a better angle? Better lighting? We'll see in the upcoming weeks. This strain gets unnecessarily frosty so if I have 10% less resin at the end, I'll still have a shiz-load of resin .

Thanks for following along fellas.

Ha oh I see, but the real test is the smoke test in the end. Oh and I have a question. How long did you veg for?

 

[KingIV20]

The experiment is going great Homebrew! That dyna-gro is actually pretty impressive next to your recipe. Good work man, and good luck keeping those bugs out!

 

[surphin]

Looks great HB, you use tap water correct? It is impressive that the dyna-gro is so ph stable with tap water.

I don't recall if you are using anything that has humic/fulvic acid in the dyna-gro res?

 

[Sure Shot]

I've been using Dyna-gro for a few harvest now.
I can say with some certainty that the only deficiency I've ever experienced was from Nitrogen, while using just bloom.
Last time, I included Humboldt Nutrients Verde. There was zero signs deficiency.
Good luck and happy growing!

 

[homebrewer]

Looks great HB, you use tap water correct? It is impressive that the dyna-gro is so ph stable with tap water.

I don't recall if you are using anything that has humic/fulvic acid in the dyna-gro res?

Yep, just regular old tap water. My tap water is pretty average as far as mineral contents go. Also, I'm not using a fulvic acid-type additive in the dynaGro res as I really just wanted to see how their products perform alone. That is something I may add on my next round since I went ahead and purchased a few more gallons of DG to work with in the future. I really like the floralicious stuff from GH and I have more than enough sitting around to test out.

 

[surphin]

The humics in the floralicious is most likely why the plants grown on your GH line-up are more resiny at this stage of growth compared to the dyna-gro. But, looking at the comparison shots it is a marginal difference anyways. Besides this is about the final product, the proof is in the pudding and desert isn't here yet.

 

[Pure]

Hey hb,

Still freakin' Nice dude.. I'm almost convinced on the DG Nutes, for vegging, as I deplete my Sensi Grow and additives I'll need to replace them maybe DG is the way to go. For flowering you are still using floralicious not DG. Do you plan on testing the DG or floralicious is that good that you'll simply stick with it?

Ciao,
Pure...

 

[homebrewer]

Hey hb,

Still freakin' Nice dude.. I'm almost convinced on the DG Nutes, for vegging, as I deplete my Sensi Grow and additives I'll need to replace them maybe DG is the way to go. For flowering you are still using floralicious not DG. Do you plan on testing the DG or floralicious is that good that you'll simply stick with it?

Ciao,
Pure...

For this particular grow, I vegged with GH nutes and am using the DG line for flowering. While vegging is an important stage in the growth process, I've found that I can get good results vegging with just about any nutrient out there. Your plant's needs during veg seem to be minimal and for me, the flowering stage is where a high quality nute line is key as that is when deficiencies and excess often occur. I just happen to use GH and botanicare for veg in this case.

Off camera here, I am also testing to see how DG nutes work with floralicious plus and possibly sweet. I'm not saying they're needed but if I have those products that I know I already like sitting around, might as well test them too. I have a feeling at the end that the DynaGro line will at least replace my Grow, Micro, and Bloom nutes from GH for the sheer fact that DG's pH stability makes my life a lot easier.