2010 Revised Super Soil Recipe

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Rtoke

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hey sub,

may i ask why you don't use manure in the mix, i know you use worm poo and bat guano ( bat poo ) but why no sheep manure. ect.. ???

Or does the manure in the mix become a breeding ground for bugs and pests.

And i read that you give your plants to medical patient's and all they have to do is water because of the super soil and do you only use water aswel ? and have you ever had like a cal/mag deficiency ?

any way, great mix and will make some soon.

cheers
 
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I dont add anything because Super Soil grows the best weed I have ever smoked, others agree.
Deficiencies of any kind are rare if the mix is made per instructions and a good clean water source is used with RO you need to add back kal mag as the ro is removing all minerals.
In theory the epson and azomite should make up for it but Id add back if I was filtering.

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subcool said:
I dont add anything because Super Soil grows the best weed I have ever smoked, others agree.
Deficiencies of any kind are rare if the mix is made per instructions and a good clean water source is used with RO you need to add back kal mag as the ro is removing all minerals.
In theory the epson and azomite should make up for it but Id add back if I was filtering.

Sub
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sounds awesome !!! will make some super soil, but i dont have a " base soil " ill probibilly make my own ?? or ship some in.

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bigcheese510 said:
that would be koo but shipping would make it too expensive.
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yeah dude just got shipping price !!! from were this guy is to my house, fed ex wants $700 per bag of soil !!!!
Crazy aye.


EDIT: forgot to ask sub

um the 8 large bags of soil, are they 30lb bags or 40lbs.

Thanks
 
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Rtoke said:
yeah dude just got shipping price !!! from were this guy is to my house, fed ex wants $700 per bag of soil !!!!
Crazy aye.


EDIT: forgot to ask sub

um the 8 large bags of soil, are they 30lb bags or 40lbs.

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if thats true that is crazy. i got a shipping quote of like 50$ but im not payin 70$ for a 20$ bag of soil. ill just get an equivalent at my hydro store.
the bags used are 3.5 cu ft except the bio bizz are i believe 1 cu ft
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Rtoke said:
yeah dude just got shipping price !!! from were this guy is to my house, fed ex wants $700 per bag of soil !!!!
Crazy aye.


EDIT: forgot to ask sub

um the 8 large bags of soil, are they 30lb bags or 40lbs.

Thanks
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they are 1.5cuft bags of soil
 
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BigBudE

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I had to find some soil in my state becouse shipping 8 bags of soil was around $500 and i live in the mid west. I ended up using ( I think it was called) "DR.Eath" but it has bat guano and bunch of other good stuff and was 12 a bag and i still had to drive a hour away to get it. I could have got FFOF 10min away but...yea. I ended up using 6 bags of DR.Earth and 2 bags of the Bio-Biz light and 1.5-2 cubic ft of coco coir (becouse the dr.earth didnt have any in there)
The only thing im really worried about is I used the whole 6 lbs bag of fish bone meal and a 6lbs of I cant remeber what but i remember the instructions only said 5 lbs. but since i added a couple cubic ft of coir Do you think i screwed it up by addind the 6lbs??? SUB or Anyone??
Thanks guys and i love this thread and every bodys help and input.
BigBudE
 
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I would add it twice once at day 10 and once at day 35 or so... Just make sure you put in 2-4 mil per a gallon...
 
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subcool said:
if the mix is made per instructions and a good clean water source is used with RO you need to add back kal mag as the ro is removing all minerals.
In theory the epson and azomite should make up for it but Id add back if I was filtering.

Sub
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So should you should still add cal mag back to the water even if you add in the powdered calmag in the soil mix?

When I saw the update to the recipe, and saw that you recommended adding powdered cal mag to the mix if using RO water, I figured this would eliminate the need for adding cal mag back to the water. Did i misunderstand?

Have you added any powdered cal mag to your mixes? If so where did you get it?

Sorry to be repetitive, but this seems to be the only issue im having in supersoil
 
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if you ammend the soil with powderd cal/mag you dont need to add it to the water. he means if you use r/o it takes it away so add it to the soil. if you cant find powderd cal/mag just get the liquid and add it to your feeding. it takes away from the only water feeding regimin but if thats your only choice then thats what it is.
 
Life Goes On

Life Goes On

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Rtoke said:
hey sub!!

do you top and LST your plants !

or is there no need to LST them ??

Thanks, have a good 1
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I asked him a similar question this was the question:
Sub,
I was just curious as to why you choose topping over other canopy management methods such as LSTing? I would think that LSTing would produce a much bigger yield in the fact that you can end up with dozens of tops vs 2-4 with topping? Have you done any experimentation with LSTing or other canopy management methods? If so what was your end results/Pros and Cons of each method? I'd like to go with the method that typically produces the largest yield.

And this was his response:
My average yield is 8 ounces of Dry trimmed bud per plant 4 per lamp
I have not played with LST sorry

You should also post questions like that to thier related topic. Here is the link for Subs Canopy Management 101
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/106938-canopy-managment-101-a.html
 
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Life Goes On said:
I asked him a similar question this was the question:
Sub,
I was just curious as to why you choose topping over other canopy management methods such as LSTing? I would think that LSTing would produce a much bigger yield in the fact that you can end up with dozens of tops vs 2-4 with topping? Have you done any experimentation with LSTing or other canopy management methods? If so what was your end results/Pros and Cons of each method? I'd like to go with the method that typically produces the largest yield.

And this was his response:
My average yield is 8 ounces of Dry trimmed bud per plant 4 per lamp
I have not played with LST sorry

You should also post questions like that to thier related topic. Here is the link for Subs Canopy Management 101
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/106938-canopy-managment-101-a.html
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hey thanks , great info.

i was just thinking doing lst because my plants really strech outdoors and i want bushy fat plants, so how do i make this happen ??

Just keep topping every node ??

Thanks for all the input guys !!

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subcool

subcool

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Keep in mind I am very old school and stuck on what works.
I am sure there are many positive techniques that I don't employ so just because I don't do something dosn't mean its not worth experimenting with.
I find with any more than 4-6 heads your adding to your trim work.

Sub
 
Life Goes On

Life Goes On

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Rtoke said:
hey thanks , great info.

i was just thinking doing lst because my plants really strech outdoors and i want bushy fat plants, so how do i make this happen ??

Just keep topping every node ??

Thanks for all the input guys !!

Cheers
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Yeah no problem it always feels good to pass knowledge along. But as Sub said he's old school and sticks with what works for him. I am going to experiment with LSTing myself as I would like to get as much yield as possible. Not to say that Subs 8oz isn't a great number but the way I see it if you can yield more why not. And I would think that if you LST you would increase yield in the fact that you can achieve dozens of tops vs 2-4 with topping. This is all in theory of course that is why I am going to experiment with it to see if the gains are in fact that much greater AND even if they are is it worth all the extra work. Anyway I would say if you are growing outdoors and you want "Fat Bushy Plants" I would say LSTing would be the way to go. I think topping every node would be more detrimental than beneficial but this is my opinion on what I've read. I am definately no professional on the matter. Take a look at this Outdoor White Widow plant (10 Days into flowering) using the LSTing method. http://forum.grasscity.com/plant-training/122936-how-lst-low-stress-training-38.html
 
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