CHIEF PUFF PUFF
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Man Sicc your grow is awesome! Keep up the great work.
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LiveHigh
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Yo Sicc...realized you're using a tent that I thought about getting. I have 8 feet high worth of space, though, and didn't want to cut it off at 5 so I'm just going to build a box.
Anyhow, my local hydro guy has grown for over ten years and tested the shit out of all of his products side-by-side, so I thought I'd offer you some info that he told me. (I like to sit and talk to him for hours about growing when I go, because he loves to share knowledge) -- You can take it how ya like, but this guy is super cool and grows some seriously amazing stuff.
I asked him about the GH line and he said it's gentle and good for people growing big crops of multiple strains and want something that has a low chance of burning anything, but other than that, won't get potentially as good of results from it as you would from CNS17 or the Canna line.
I asked him about Hygrozyme. He says he tested Hygrozyme, Sensizyme, and Cannazyme side-by-side and Cannazyme works the best, even though it has less enzymes than Sensizyme (which has the most) -- and it's cheaper.
He raves about Hydroplex, and says it's the best for flowering weeks 1 til hardener is needed instead.
As far as carbs, he says Bud Candy is the best. He's tried Sweet and all the others.
As far as hardeners, he says Gravity is the best. Using it for one week after the buds stop swelling, and stopping Hydroplex when using.
Says Organa Guano works amazing for aroma and taste for the bud, and can be used side-by-side with Hydroplex, just lessen the dosages of both, and can run Organa Guano a bit longer than Hydroplex.
Says Open Sesame works the best, and is much cheaper than competition, for early flowering site enhancement.
And for veg he says using Canna Coco, Canna Coco Nutes A/B, Rhyzotonic, and Cannazyme, and Roots Organic can't be beaten.
And when I asked him what mix he uses, he says coco.
So...that's just some info I got from someone who has literally tried everything, as he has access to an entire hydroponic store. And coming from someone who frequently gives me free shit and tells me to get things cheaper than what I planned because they're better. So I trust him, and have been having amazing results so far myself, though I need to get some new pics.
Anyhow, my local hydro guy has grown for over ten years and tested the shit out of all of his products side-by-side, so I thought I'd offer you some info that he told me. (I like to sit and talk to him for hours about growing when I go, because he loves to share knowledge) -- You can take it how ya like, but this guy is super cool and grows some seriously amazing stuff.
I asked him about the GH line and he said it's gentle and good for people growing big crops of multiple strains and want something that has a low chance of burning anything, but other than that, won't get potentially as good of results from it as you would from CNS17 or the Canna line.
I asked him about Hygrozyme. He says he tested Hygrozyme, Sensizyme, and Cannazyme side-by-side and Cannazyme works the best, even though it has less enzymes than Sensizyme (which has the most) -- and it's cheaper.
He raves about Hydroplex, and says it's the best for flowering weeks 1 til hardener is needed instead.
As far as carbs, he says Bud Candy is the best. He's tried Sweet and all the others.
As far as hardeners, he says Gravity is the best. Using it for one week after the buds stop swelling, and stopping Hydroplex when using.
Says Organa Guano works amazing for aroma and taste for the bud, and can be used side-by-side with Hydroplex, just lessen the dosages of both, and can run Organa Guano a bit longer than Hydroplex.
Says Open Sesame works the best, and is much cheaper than competition, for early flowering site enhancement.
And for veg he says using Canna Coco, Canna Coco Nutes A/B, Rhyzotonic, and Cannazyme, and Roots Organic can't be beaten.
And when I asked him what mix he uses, he says coco.
So...that's just some info I got from someone who has literally tried everything, as he has access to an entire hydroponic store. And coming from someone who frequently gives me free shit and tells me to get things cheaper than what I planned because they're better. So I trust him, and have been having amazing results so far myself, though I need to get some new pics.
aeviaanah
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good info bro +rep. ive heard alot about hygrozyme is it the same as cannazyme and sensizyme? i guess they are just enzymes huh? what exactly do these products do to the plants? i already have a ton of nutrients that i add, should this be one of them?
LiveHigh
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Yeah, I had heard a lot about Hygrozyme too, which is why I asked him about it. The enzymes are good for your roots, which is why it's best used in veg and up through the first few weeks of flower. I can't remember the exact words he told me, but here is the description I found online for Cannazyme's purpose.
"Fast-growing plants continually develop new root cells on a continuous basis. During this process plants also reject root elements to remain in, deteriorate and pollute the growing medium. Dead root cells attract pathogenic organisms, creating harmful molds in the root environment that may damage healthy roots . This can be a serious threat to plant growth. Cannazym is a top-quality enzyme product. It consists of more than 12 different enzymes and is enriched with vitamins and desert plant extracts. Cannazym not only accelerates the breakdown of dead root materials, (hemi) cellulose, but also transforms these into minerals and glucose that provide a source of nutrition for the plants."
LiveHigh
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[QUOTE="SICC";4595246]Thanks for the info High, feel free to post any pics, or if you get a journal up post a link and i'll subscribe.
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No prob man. Here's my journal. It's actually a pretty good example of some of the effectiveness of this stuff because I start out using totally different nutes.
Here's a pretty good song to go with my grow too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe7oB6VbHoM
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/357870-third-grow-first-journal-purple.html
The title is a bit skewed now. I have 2 Oreos (04' South African Durban Poison x old german bagseed bred by Mr. Greengenes or something -- sativa that grows and yields very well.) 2 Purple Kush, and a God's Gift. Then I have 6x Albert Walker x Fire OG and 6x Fire OG x The White x Larry OG babies in veg.
+REP![/QUOTE]
No prob man. Here's my journal. It's actually a pretty good example of some of the effectiveness of this stuff because I start out using totally different nutes.
Here's a pretty good song to go with my grow too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe7oB6VbHoM
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/357870-third-grow-first-journal-purple.html
The title is a bit skewed now. I have 2 Oreos (04' South African Durban Poison x old german bagseed bred by Mr. Greengenes or something -- sativa that grows and yields very well.) 2 Purple Kush, and a God's Gift. Then I have 6x Albert Walker x Fire OG and 6x Fire OG x The White x Larry OG babies in veg.
aeviaanah
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Right on i may have to go pick some of this up. I just get the feeling lately that i am adding waay too much product and that one shouldnt have to add so much to get a good harvest.
LiveHigh
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Appreciate it. Also, two other things I forgot to mention that you'll see me use in my grow are foliar feeding once a week, and then a pinch of Beastie Bloomz in late flowering, used just like Open Sesame in early flowering. Cha Ching for mid flowering isn't needed with Hydroplex and Organa Guano.
The foliar feeding thing I was skeptikal about, so I really asked questions about it. I had also already bought the stuff for it a while ago, so just to let you be certain he's not screwin with me, he wasn't going to make a sale on it regardless. Anyhow, he says foliar feeding once a week (not necessary to do twice a week like the Dutch Master brand claims - he tested and had same results with one and two.) is a necessity to get the max out of your plants. Dutch Master Penetrator (Saturator is new name of same thing. I guess the company had some legal issues or some shit with Penetrator so they switched.) + Dutch Master Folitech (Veg and Flower versions) + Dutch Master Max-Fx (or can substitute a little Bud Candy for the carbs that Max-Fx is).
I think that covers it all, though. I don't have the veg folitech yet, but I'll get it. I'll also be using Overdrive instead of Gravity because I already had it. He told me not to bother getting Gravity until the Overdrive was out since I already had it, but Gravity is better.
The foliar feeding thing I was skeptikal about, so I really asked questions about it. I had also already bought the stuff for it a while ago, so just to let you be certain he's not screwin with me, he wasn't going to make a sale on it regardless. Anyhow, he says foliar feeding once a week (not necessary to do twice a week like the Dutch Master brand claims - he tested and had same results with one and two.) is a necessity to get the max out of your plants. Dutch Master Penetrator (Saturator is new name of same thing. I guess the company had some legal issues or some shit with Penetrator so they switched.) + Dutch Master Folitech (Veg and Flower versions) + Dutch Master Max-Fx (or can substitute a little Bud Candy for the carbs that Max-Fx is).
I think that covers it all, though. I don't have the veg folitech yet, but I'll get it. I'll also be using Overdrive instead of Gravity because I already had it. He told me not to bother getting Gravity until the Overdrive was out since I already had it, but Gravity is better.
LiveHigh
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Just definitely don't use the recommended dosages of the stuff. For some stupid reason, all companies like to put high dosages on their bottles so that people will use more of it. What they don't realize is that people then burn their plants and don't want to use their shit anymore anyway. I don't measure stuff out, so I can't tell you the measurements...I am just feeding with a 5 gallon bucket, giving each plant about a gallon every other day -- soon to be every day. And I pour by caploads or half caploads, etc. I've been giving about a half capload of Hydroplex and a half capload of Organa Guano with like 6 caploads of Canna Coco A/B, for example.
And you also gotta use the stuff at the right times. It seems like a lot of products all together, but you use them in stages, so you're never using a shitload at once.
edit: Should also mention that I don't just guess on the crap. I give the caploads and check PPM afterwards with a truncheon and adjust that way.
jebus2029
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I've tried foliar feeding in the past with mixed results. It's really easy to burn and stress your plants so be careful. A weak, plain compost tea works well but don't mix any nutes into it, or get the Dutch Master stuff. I'm pretty sure there are a few others out there too. Sounds like Livehigh knows what he's doing. I tend to take it easy on feeding because I don't want to over do it and probably could feed them a little more often with regular nutes. About once a week works for me, but if I notice any sort of deficiencies I'm going to step it up.
TrynaGroSumShyt
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i foliar with fox farm 1nce a day.. just started back doin this after stoppin foliar for a while for fear of mold
LiveHigh
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Yeah, definitely gotta be easy with foliar feed nute mix. And also need to make sure you have good airflow so your plants absorb it quick enough. The very first time I ever used this Dutch Master stuff was back on my first grow, and I burned and stressed the plants. So I was afraid to foliar feed until recently. This time I put less than 1/3rd of their dosage and a little Bud Candy to replace Max-Fx and had no problems. I also had one single leaf that was placed in a way that it got bad airflow, and got too soaked when I foliar fed, thus it got a really dark spot in the center of it, so I plucked it. You're good to go if you just use a light dosage, don't wet the plants too hard, and have a couple fans going (which everyone does.) It's also to be done when the lights are on (the Dutch Master stuff, that is), so you may want to move your bulb out of the way.
LiveHigh
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I don't know what the fox farm foliar feed products are like, but I wouldn't foliar feed more than once a week. Maybe foliar with just water more often if your area is really low humidity or something.
TrynaGroSumShyt
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my humidity is good.. fox farm is what i use.. i just dilute foe foliar.. i havnt seen an issue yet
ganajagorilla
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dam sicc there some sweet plants you got..
i have an outdoor grow going now and would love 2 do a thread but am such a dum ass with this shit and really dont think i could do it..+rep man
i have an outdoor grow going now and would love 2 do a thread but am such a dum ass with this shit and really dont think i could do it..+rep man
jebus2029
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Sorry for asking this in your thread Sicc but I figured this would be a good place to ask with how many people follow yours. I can't remember whose thread I saw it on but someone had a link in their sig for making a grow box for around $50 using a plastic cabinet form Wal-Mart. Anyone know who that was? I want to make one where I don't need to worry about light leaks and that is more stealth.
*edit -- Cancel that. I found it. It is called "Ditty makes a $57 grow box in 22 minutes w/ pix"
*edit -- Cancel that. I found it. It is called "Ditty makes a $57 grow box in 22 minutes w/ pix"
GreenBuddha619
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SICC Awesome Grow!!! Hoping my 4 girls will turn out as good as yours are looking! Sub'd
Live,
I found a tent that is 4x2x7 was having the same problem until I came across this one. Cost me $150 I think...Looks like is $100 now on ebay lol! californianursery is the seller on ebay...I called them and they shipped same day from Bay area in NorCal. GL...Going to say this...the ports for intake suck based on the way my setup is. (Only intake is 4" on the lower rear left side). Few pics to show you...see if it will work for you situation. Wanted to throw my 2 sense in about Nutes for good root growth...I personally use HG Roots Excelurator give me huge & fast root growth...on the pricey side though...$77 for the smallest bottle they sell but only takes 1.1ml per gallon so lasts. Also for Hydro systems HG Multi Zen seems to be a great enzyme for clearing up dead root matter on the plant along with in the res. One thing I always used for my outdoor grows that help creating good bacteria which promotes absorption of micro nutes is Trinity...wouldn't recommend for hydro, tried it and plants seems to love it but its really gunky...soil all the way. I'm no expert by any means but hope this helps
