would your ideal bowlpack/joint consist of rock hard dense nug or soft fluffy weed?

[fruitrollup]

A small dense bud can have just as much or more surface area as a bigger fluffy one, it's just in more compact layers. As each new calyx piles onto your plants, don't they each have their own bed of resin? It doesn't go anywhere as new layers grow over it, it's still in there when you peel the layers away to smoke it later.

It seems that the poll should have been "Who prefers not to grind their stuff before they smoke it?". I'm almost exclusively a joint smoker, and I'm not about to just roll a paper around a bud and lick it, fluffy or dense. The dense one would be like trying to smoke an acorn and the fluffy one would probably tear my throat out. De-stem it and grind it up nicely first and it will burn like a cigarette.
You're pretty stuck on something that is just a personal, somewhat underdog, opinion. It's also pretty strain dependent. [/QUOTE]


surface area is bullshit. the flame burns into the nug not just the surface. the surface area thing makes no sense. good stuff all up in a bud all day not just the outside. joints get grinders for the sake of the paper-but not bowls

 

[freddiemoney]

volume matters. its more bowlpacks(they will burn faster). you dont want old smoke to sit in the bowl. you want it to burn down, and you want more fresh pack in your bag. all bud dense or fluffy has stem...clean that shit out before you even cure it. just nug in my cure jar.

It's only more bowl packs if you don't grind it before you smoke it. A half gram of ground bud always looks pretty much the same size, regardless of pre-grind density.

 

[freddiemoney]

I was replying to the comment that trichomes grow on the surface area of the buds from another user in that post. If that's the only issue you had with what I said, would you agree that your Mexican brickweed analogy was ridiculous, and that this thread has more to do with smoking whole vs. ground buds than anything else?

 

[fruitrollup]

It's only more bowl packs if you don't grind it before you smoke it. A half gram of ground bud always looks pretty much the same size, regardless of pre-grind density.

grinding makes it fluff out. fluffy burns. pot should burn. its a good thing. the best buds dont need to be ground you just smoke perfection

 

[klmmicro]

I have had both and they both have their place. Rock hard for the pipe or bong, light and fluffy for the joint rolling.

 

[fruitrollup]

I was replying to the comment that trichomes grow on the surface area of the buds from another user in that post. If that's the only issue you had with what I said, would you agree that your Mexican brickweed analogy was ridiculous, and that this thread has more to do with smoking whole vs. ground buds than anything else?

the mexipack is a straight up example of density. no other factor just density. you have to know what density by itself is. its not resin its not weight its not potency its not stem content its fucking density. if density (by itself damn it) is good then it should be as dense as possible to be as good as possible. better get the compacter that will make it real dense. does that make sense to do? no it does not. because there is no point to being so dense you cant just smoke it. alls i want to do with weed is just smoke it. anything in the way of that sucks. therefor density sucks if i HAVE to grind it to smoke for anything beside a joint

 

[freddiemoney]

Who ever argued that density by itself is good?

 

[fruitrollup]

man read the title first posting man they all are saying it. the first line of the whole thread man
the point (all other factors equal)was to address density misconceptions as you can see there are plenty.

 

[chainseeker]

OK guys take the same growing space and grow all fluffy airy buds and fill the space.
Now take the same space and grow dense buds and fill the space.
Who wins that battle?
The dense buds will put out way more bud in the same space.
Now say they are equal in potency.
I know which way I'd do it.
Especially since your a dealer ya know.

 

[HowzerMD]

It's a toss up. Some good buds are fluffier, while others are hard as rocks. I go by potency not density.

 

[420God]

I like hard buds that are grown that way but not the bricky shit that's packed in bales. But it's definitely nice to be able to grab a bud while on the boat fishing and throw it right into the bowl without too much work.

 

[fruitrollup]

OK guys take the same growing space and grow all fluffy airy buds and fill the space.
Now take the same space and grow dense buds and fill the space.
Who wins that battle?
The dense buds will put out way more bud in the same space.
Now say they are equal in potency.
I know which way I'd do it.quote

sounds peachy but it doesnt really work like that. see, your arguing weight now(putting more bud in the same space). im talking smoking enjoyment. plus my fluffy plants with armsize nugs out produce the cannonballs produced by my dense stuff, the plant is just a different form. final yields are close but you cant beat the hugeness of the fluffyer bud with those heavy cannonballs(entertaining you even your STILL talking weight)

 

[fruitrollup]

It's a toss up. Some good buds are fluffier, while others are hard as rocks. I go by potency not density.

you are correct but if you had two tastey bowls, one you had to fuckwith before you could burn it right and one you could just pack what would you pick? assuming taste and everything was the same

 

[420God]

Fluffier buds have more bag appeal. Weighs the same but looks like more.

 

[fruitrollup]

I like hard buds that are grown that way but not the bricky shit that's packed in bales. But it's definitely nice to be able to grab a bud while on the boat fishing and throw it right into the bowl without too much work.

hell yeah boats rule thats some pot thats goin somewhere! so you do admit though- that you like density- ...up to a point?
would you put your danks in a trash compactor to make them denser? the taste and everything is the same. but you dont want it that dense do you? id say if i cant just pack a fuckin bowl with your dense bud and not touch it or break it, then its too dense to be "perfect" pot

 

[420God]

If it's not dense right off the plant than I don't want it.

 

[fruitrollup]

you do your just thinking im talking about some inferior bud when i say fluffy. it a word thing.

 

[420God]

I understand what you mean. I just don't like buds that are pressed for packaging. I like the buds that have the least amount of handling.

 

[tip top toker]

id say if i cant just pack a fuckin bowl with your dense bud and not touch it or break it, then its too dense to be "perfect" pot

Once again, your opinion and no fact And it doesn't matter if you've got "perfect" bud if you're not going to at least take out the main stalk(s) then i cannot call it a "perfect" smoke, and without that, you're wasting your perfect bud.

 

[phyzix]

I had absolutely no idea that some people liked airy buds. I have seen plenty, but I just assumed they were from novice growers without enough light.