watuptho
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it's my first time and it's funkdocKT's second op with coco grow
3000W HPS 10x5 Tent - GrapeApe, HinduSkunk, SnowCap, SSHaze, MasterBubbaKush
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Ive always used HPS lighting. As far as plant numbers per light, it all kinda depends on space moreso than light. Ive grown 20 small plants under a 600W HPS (vegging for 2 weeks) and this grow will be be 17 plants under 3000W HPS (vegging for 5 weeks) using twice the space i used to grow under the 600W. The basic school of thought ive gone with (and its kinda common sense) is the more plants under a light, the smaller the plants have to be to accomodate the space available.Do you think u guys could tell me the best light 2 use and how many plants could i put under each wattage light.. Like 1000w = ??? how many plants..
When it comes to yield, were less concerned with grams/plant as we are with grams/1000W. Our goal for this grow (first run with this set up, first time using coco, first time using the complete advanced nutrients line) is at least 448g/1000W (a very doable goal). It would break down to:Also what would my yeild be per each plant??Im growing in soil and using mainly big bud xxl feminized.. Please help me figure this part out. And could some1 tell me what would be the best bulb 2 use.
448g x 3 (3x 1000W) = 1344g
1344g/17 (17 plants) = 79.05g/plant
pictures and update in an hour or so.
Vegging 8/18
Alright, got a nice little crowd building up in here so updates and pictures will be even more frequent now...here's some shots from about 5 minutes ago
We decided to spread the plants out a little so we have the 8 bulb T5 over the Grape Apes, SS Haze & Snow Caps in one tray and the Hindu Skunks and Master Bubba Kush in the other under the 6 bulb T5.
Were about 2 weeks out from switching them over to flower, so it should get pretty crazy in here pretty soon.
Nice little shot from the left. You can see both trays with plants in em.
Here we have our Apes, Snow Caps, and SS Haze under our 8 bulb T5.
Here's our shortys. Hindu Skunk and Master Bubba Kush.
Another shot of the Apes, Haze & Snow Caps from the right side. The plant on the far left is our Super Silver Haze example and the plant on the far right is the Snow Cap example that we'll be mothering.
Another shot of the Hindus and Master Bubba.
Canopy of the Grape Ape, Snow Cap & SS Haze.
Canopy of the shortys.
Here's our Super Silver Haze example. Gnats were causing her to get her lean on so weve been hitting her with a steady dose of Go-Gnats every few feedings and staked her up straight today.
Here's our LST'd Snow Cap from The Battle Of Buds. She's starting to rise but still keeping an awesome low profile.
Here's the Master Bubba Kush. I clipped off her lower dead fan leaves and she's started really pumping now.
Here we have our Snow Cap example that will becoming our mother. She's super bushy now, gonna be a great mother.
Hindu Skunk example looking as beautiful as ever.
Our Grape Ape example looking ever so bushy and lovely.
Everythings going great. Starting to inch toward flowering which is when the real magic will happen. All the plants are looking super healthy now, we got our routine down and i see smooth sailing from here on out. Only thing we have to finish taking care of is the gnat problem and that should be a simple solution and fix.
Tonight i'll be hanging our DIY silencer, Air King oscillating fan, and ducting. More pics of the set up will be up later.
Alright, got a nice little crowd building up in here so updates and pictures will be even more frequent now...here's some shots from about 5 minutes ago
We decided to spread the plants out a little so we have the 8 bulb T5 over the Grape Apes, SS Haze & Snow Caps in one tray and the Hindu Skunks and Master Bubba Kush in the other under the 6 bulb T5.
Were about 2 weeks out from switching them over to flower, so it should get pretty crazy in here pretty soon.
Nice little shot from the left. You can see both trays with plants in em.
Here we have our Apes, Snow Caps, and SS Haze under our 8 bulb T5.
Here's our shortys. Hindu Skunk and Master Bubba Kush.
Another shot of the Apes, Haze & Snow Caps from the right side. The plant on the far left is our Super Silver Haze example and the plant on the far right is the Snow Cap example that we'll be mothering.
Another shot of the Hindus and Master Bubba.
Canopy of the Grape Ape, Snow Cap & SS Haze.
Canopy of the shortys.
Here's our Super Silver Haze example. Gnats were causing her to get her lean on so weve been hitting her with a steady dose of Go-Gnats every few feedings and staked her up straight today.
Here's our LST'd Snow Cap from The Battle Of Buds. She's starting to rise but still keeping an awesome low profile.
Here's the Master Bubba Kush. I clipped off her lower dead fan leaves and she's started really pumping now.
Here we have our Snow Cap example that will becoming our mother. She's super bushy now, gonna be a great mother.
Hindu Skunk example looking as beautiful as ever.
Our Grape Ape example looking ever so bushy and lovely.
Everythings going great. Starting to inch toward flowering which is when the real magic will happen. All the plants are looking super healthy now, we got our routine down and i see smooth sailing from here on out. Only thing we have to finish taking care of is the gnat problem and that should be a simple solution and fix.
Tonight i'll be hanging our DIY silencer, Air King oscillating fan, and ducting. More pics of the set up will be up later.
MonkeyFonics
Member
Plants look amazing. Sub'd.
Curious to see the weight pulled from a system of this size.
What are your expectations come first harvest?
Curious to see the weight pulled from a system of this size.
What are your expectations come first harvest?
Thank you. Were hoping for 448g/1000W. Might be a little hard to come by in the pots were growing in, but were just gonna go with it and see what comes back.
Reformatted the grow room yesterday with our new inline fan silencer. pics and update coming in a few hours.
The Snowman
Active Member
you can't clone an autoflower
depends on what your goals are and what you consider a "huge grow op".
A huge grow op for you could be a 10'x10' 6000W set up, a huge grow op for me would be a 40'x40' 20,000-30,000W set up.
Obviously with grow ops this size your ultimate goal is the bottom line, and thats return on investment.
Lets consider your huge op to be 10'x10' with 6000W HPS. Your set up and nutes alone for an op that large is gonna cost around $10,000 (not counting electricity costs). At the most youre gonna be running 80 small autoflowering plants (4 4'x4' trays in a 10'x10' and the trays hold 20 each max), which at the current cost of feminized seeds would run you $75 for 5 making 80 run another $1200. Another thing to consider is space, it takes a pretty particular situation to be able to fit a 10'x10' indoor grow area at your home and still have your home livable. If you have to rent office space or small warehouse that could run you another $1000/month for a total of $3000/grow in overhead for rent. At the most youre gonna yield 0.5oz (14g) per plant with your growing experience giving you 40oz or 2.5lbs. Depending on where youre located, you can probably get rid of it for $2800-3500 (considering the lowryder's potency isnt anything special). Which brings us here:
$10,000 - Set Up Cost
$1,500 - Electricity Cost
$1,200 - Seed Cost
+ $3,000 - Rent
------------------------------
$15,700 Total Cost For First 6000W HPS 10'x10' Grow
Now lets take the best case scenario for your strain and give you 2.5lbs and getting rid of them at top dollar $3,500 wholesale.
$3,500 x 2.5 = $8,750 Income From First Harvest
Subtracting that from total cost:
$15,000 - $8,750 = $6,250 Still In The Hole
After your first run you would still be in debt around $6,250 between you, meaning that your first grow didnt cover cost of set up (which is ALWAYS the goal of the first grow). Instead you could have ran normal plants, vegging for 4 weeks first (which would only add an extra month to your grow time from the autoflowering lowryders at the most), that would have yielded you 6+ pounds total which would not only cover your costs to get going but also already put you in the green some and give you the experience of running your set up with a real plant.
So, long story short, i think it would be a huge waste of time to invest any decent sum of money in a set up and running autoflowering plants.
Update coming soon.
A huge grow op for you could be a 10'x10' 6000W set up, a huge grow op for me would be a 40'x40' 20,000-30,000W set up.
Obviously with grow ops this size your ultimate goal is the bottom line, and thats return on investment.
Lets consider your huge op to be 10'x10' with 6000W HPS. Your set up and nutes alone for an op that large is gonna cost around $10,000 (not counting electricity costs). At the most youre gonna be running 80 small autoflowering plants (4 4'x4' trays in a 10'x10' and the trays hold 20 each max), which at the current cost of feminized seeds would run you $75 for 5 making 80 run another $1200. Another thing to consider is space, it takes a pretty particular situation to be able to fit a 10'x10' indoor grow area at your home and still have your home livable. If you have to rent office space or small warehouse that could run you another $1000/month for a total of $3000/grow in overhead for rent. At the most youre gonna yield 0.5oz (14g) per plant with your growing experience giving you 40oz or 2.5lbs. Depending on where youre located, you can probably get rid of it for $2800-3500 (considering the lowryder's potency isnt anything special). Which brings us here:
$10,000 - Set Up Cost
$1,500 - Electricity Cost
$1,200 - Seed Cost
+ $3,000 - Rent
------------------------------
$15,700 Total Cost For First 6000W HPS 10'x10' Grow
Now lets take the best case scenario for your strain and give you 2.5lbs and getting rid of them at top dollar $3,500 wholesale.
$3,500 x 2.5 = $8,750 Income From First Harvest
Subtracting that from total cost:
$15,000 - $8,750 = $6,250 Still In The Hole
After your first run you would still be in debt around $6,250 between you, meaning that your first grow didnt cover cost of set up (which is ALWAYS the goal of the first grow). Instead you could have ran normal plants, vegging for 4 weeks first (which would only add an extra month to your grow time from the autoflowering lowryders at the most), that would have yielded you 6+ pounds total which would not only cover your costs to get going but also already put you in the green some and give you the experience of running your set up with a real plant.
So, long story short, i think it would be a huge waste of time to invest any decent sum of money in a set up and running autoflowering plants.
Update coming soon.
we were gonna do 100 of them with these flouresent lights for veg but then i found out they grow 20/4 so we would only need flowering lights.. each 4 foot by two bulbs could grow around 12 plants each so that would only be 9 maybe 10 small lights total.. seeds would be 475 total rent would b 1100 to 1700 for 2months not includn electric soo we would get 100 oz off the plants i was looking at there 28-40 grams per each plant.. and total time from seed to harvest would b 2 1/2 months... and You can clone them they will b taller but if u keep taking clones they will only b as tall as the first clone we took..
No, you wouldnt get anywhere near that yield with using flourescents. EVER.
No, You would not be able to fit 12 plants under two flourescent bulbs and expect 28g/plant. EVER.
Seeds would probably be around $475 for regular seeds, meaning they wont be feminized, meaning youll end up pulling out half your plants cause theyre males.
And you cant really take quality clones from autoflowering strains...not worth it.
Look man, you asked a question because obviously i know a little more than you. I gave you an answer based on my experience over the last 3 years, but if the answer isnt good enough or what you expected than thats cool, but dont retort and argue with me in my own journal. Take that to the beginners thread. Please keep all questions relevant to this grow from now on, to avoid this. Thank you.
Taking pictures now, update soon.
Vegging 8/19
Alright, so it kind of feels like times standing still as we inch closer to 9/2 and we switch these gals over to flower, but in the meantime we continue to keep ourselves busy by changing the grow room and further bettering our design.
Yesterday we really put some of the finishing touches on this bad boy by rehanging the HPS lights in a way that makes them a lot easier to raise and lower. We installed our inline fan silencer and rerouted our exhaust air path. Some will argue that the kinks in the ducting are taking away from the power of the fan but thats always why i suggest buying a fan thats too big for your set up and running it on a Speedster Fan Control. Besides that, everythings going grea. Watuptho fed the girls today and theyre looking awesome. Anyways, heres the reason you all come:
Here's our HPS lights hanging. The exhaust path begins at the carbon filter, heads thru the lights, our of the tent, thru the fan, thru the silencer and to the ground. The ducting above the ducting connected to the filter is attatched to our AC window unit which keeps the tent at a nice 72-75C.
Here's our fan and silencer, the last destination on Exhaust Blvd.
Here's the completed tent in all her glory...and yes, that window unit on the far right of the tent is ducted to go directly into the tent. Only the freshest air for our babies.
Watuptho's Super Cropped Snow Cap is starting to thicken up nicely. This nuckle is where he bent it during Battle Of The Buds
Our FIM'd Super Silver Haze.
Our late LST'd Snow Cap.
The Grape Apes, SS Haze & Snow Caps.
The Hindus and Master Bubba Kush.
Alright, so it kind of feels like times standing still as we inch closer to 9/2 and we switch these gals over to flower, but in the meantime we continue to keep ourselves busy by changing the grow room and further bettering our design.
Yesterday we really put some of the finishing touches on this bad boy by rehanging the HPS lights in a way that makes them a lot easier to raise and lower. We installed our inline fan silencer and rerouted our exhaust air path. Some will argue that the kinks in the ducting are taking away from the power of the fan but thats always why i suggest buying a fan thats too big for your set up and running it on a Speedster Fan Control. Besides that, everythings going grea. Watuptho fed the girls today and theyre looking awesome. Anyways, heres the reason you all come:
Here's our HPS lights hanging. The exhaust path begins at the carbon filter, heads thru the lights, our of the tent, thru the fan, thru the silencer and to the ground. The ducting above the ducting connected to the filter is attatched to our AC window unit which keeps the tent at a nice 72-75C.
Here's our fan and silencer, the last destination on Exhaust Blvd.
Here's the completed tent in all her glory...and yes, that window unit on the far right of the tent is ducted to go directly into the tent. Only the freshest air for our babies.
Watuptho's Super Cropped Snow Cap is starting to thicken up nicely. This nuckle is where he bent it during Battle Of The Buds
Our FIM'd Super Silver Haze.
Our late LST'd Snow Cap.
The Grape Apes, SS Haze & Snow Caps.
The Hindus and Master Bubba Kush.
The Snowman
Active Member
such a clean setup! +rep
infinitihigh
Active Member
subed everything looking great
TrynaGroSumShyt
Well-Known Member
very nice n clean set man..+rep
green.budz
Active Member
very nice setup allthough id strap a hepa filter onto that a/c