Pineapple Express G13 Lab's Seed to Harvest

londonfog

londonfog

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glad to find what I said helpful...and your waterfarm is blowing my mind +rep+..lol.. so thanks for you !!!!!! yes you will see yellow leaves ...she is going to do that....but you can about 4th week of flower add a nitrogen base nute to help with that...foxfarm growbig is nice... you don't really have to but it does help due to the fact that this broad can eat some nitro !!!!!!
 
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albinor

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ok, Scotty, got a couple of questions,

Do you keep the waterfarm on constantley?
And since its a modified waterfarm ( with extra holes on the bottom) do you have an EXTRA air stone in the resivour under the first bucket , or does that airstone in the tube that forces the water up and on the plant good enough to keep the roots from drowning in the water. ? ) I was just looking at that picture of the cut away view of the waterfarm. thanks

hope that makes sense
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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albinor said:
ok, Scotty, got a couple of questions,

Do you keep the waterfarm on constantley?
And since its a modified waterfarm ( with extra holes on the bottom) do you have an EXTRA air stone in the resivour under the first bucket , or does that airstone in the tube that forces the water up and on the plant good enough to keep the roots from drowning in the water. ? ) I was just looking at that picture of the cut away view of the waterfarm. thanks

hope that makes sense
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Yes it stays on. With the air pump off you risk root rot, you want to keep the water moving and no air stones.. the water is very oxygenated no need for stones
 
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albinor

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SCOTTYBALLS said:
Yes it stays on. With the air pump off you risk root rot, you want to keep the water moving and no air stones.. the water is very oxygenated no need for stones
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Thanks scotty, its just from the picture it looked like the roots will just sit in water , now i see that as long as that super oxynated water keeps flowing then its all good!! thanks scotty.

I am fixing to move, and im getting on of those for sure, cause its too messy with soil and too labourous mixing, ect . that is one of the best KISS, setups that i seen. that really produces, and thats all this medical patient needs. thank you your info.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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bongmarley2009 said:
What kind of pH/PPM tester are you using? Do you have a device that continuously monitors the reservoir?
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I have hanna ppm and ph meter and a Nutri-test EC meter.. I prefer PPM over EC no particular reason other then thats what i started with.. no I take a sample everyday I am the continuous monitor.. Continuous monitors can become caked up with salts and sediment and cause false readings.. also dont go crazy with adjusting PH up and down long as you fall somwhere between 5.2 and 6.1 you will be fine.. I think the plant is capable of changing the ph to its prefrence.. Some days my PH is 5.5 somdays its 5.9.. I never add ph up or down.. unless you are running hard water and you cant keep ph below 6.5 .. depending on you water you may need a reverse osmosis water filter.. Im lucky enough that where I live my tap water is 28 PPM damn near as good as deer park spring water wich is 24ppm from what I remember.. IMO 200 PPM + and you will need a RO system.. or GH's line of nutes for hardwater.. basically there 3 part mix with more PH buffers..

Sorry I know you just asked what kind of meters I use.. I try to throw extra tips in to help pepole new to hydro..
 
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oOBe RyeOo

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Hey could you post up a pic of the inside of you cab. Maybe some pics of how you have your vent/filter/light system setup. Thanks
 
bongmarley2009

bongmarley2009

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@ SCOTTY
Can't thank you enough for taking the time to answer my questions. I have the Hanna 98129 all-in-one combo meter, so thankfully I won't have to buy a new meter because they are expensive. For my first 2 grows (soil), I used 218 PPM tap water with the pH somewhere between 8.0-8.5, but this was from a house built in 1935 with old piping and what not. When I start my next grow, I'll be living in a newer building, so hopefully the PPM is lower. I would love to have 28 PPM water! Unfortunately, a reversed osmosis filter is out of the question for now, so I'll cross my fingers and hope for the best. Going to make a scrog screen with legs so I can keep it 6-8" above the waterfarm. Just going with the 150w HPS. I'll be happy if I yield an oz +.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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bongmarley2009 said:
@ SCOTTY
Can't thank you enough for taking the time to answer my questions. I have the Hanna 98129 all-in-one combo meter, so thankfully I won't have to buy a new meter because they are expensive. For my first 2 grows (soil), I used 218 PPM tap water with the pH somewhere between 8.0-8.5, but this was from a house built in 1935 with old piping and what not. When I start my next grow, I'll be living in a newer building, so hopefully the PPM is lower. I would love to have 28 PPM water! Unfortunately, a reversed osmosis filter is out of the question for now, so I'll cross my fingers and hope for the best. Going to make a scrog screen with legs so I can keep it 6-8" above the waterfarm. Just going with the 150w HPS. I'll be happy if I yield an oz +.
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I promiss you will get at least a 1oz if you just do what i do.. oh put the screen about 12" from the top remember your going to have to tilt the container up to get it all in there.. trust me it wont be to high a water farm is going to grow your plant about 4X faster then soil for the same length of time.. I want you to try Flora Nova bloom with your tap water the ph buffers are really strong in the Nova series and may be enough to stablize your tap water.. and make sure you build some kind of enclosure and have everything coated with mylar... also rinse your hydroton before putting it in the waterfarm..
 
bongmarley2009

bongmarley2009

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I'll take your advice and try it out. I somehow completely forgot that certain nutrients drop the pH of your water substantially. Sounds like Flora Nova Bloom will do exactly this, but won't know for sure until I test it out. I have a Homebox XS tent, so it has some reflective material on the inside which should be adequate. I noticed earlier in your journal, you said get a bigger air pump than the one it comes with. Which one do have? Eco-Plus, Elite (the one that comes with the waterfarm package), Active Aqua or something else?
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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bongmarley2009 said:
I'll take your advice and try it out. I somehow completely forgot that certain nutrients drop the pH of your water substantially. Sounds like Flora Nova Bloom will do exactly this, but won't know for sure until I test it out. I have a Homebox XS tent, so it has some reflective material on the inside which should be adequate. I noticed earlier in your journal, you said get a bigger air pump than the one it comes with. Which one do have? Eco-Plus, Elite (the one that comes with the waterfarm package), Active Aqua or something else?
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This is the one i use http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=472 however its way over kill I could run 8 waterfarms with it if i wanted too.. you can go that route or just get a fishtank pump big enough for 50 gallons.. your grow tent will work great along with the reflective material inside that should be fine..
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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oOBe RyeOo said:
Why such a big pump?
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actually my normal pump that was for 50 gallons had stoped on me one night do to electric going out.. water siphoned back into the pump I did not have a check valve inline and my pump was lower then the water farm.. I had this pump from back when I had a 8 unit waterfarm with controller set up. I think im going to just keep it thoe cause water flow is unreal when powering a single water farm lol... btw ill get your cab shots when I update the PE..
 
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oOBe RyeOo

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SCOTTYBALLS said:
actually my normal pump that was for 50 gallons had stoped on me one night do to electric going out.. water siphoned back into the pump I did not have a check valve inline and my pump was lower then the water farm.. I had this pump from back when I had a 8 unit waterfarm with controller set up. I think im going to just keep it thoe cause water flow is unreal when powering a single water farm lol... btw ill get your cab shots when I update the PE..
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Right on man!
 
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oOBe RyeOo

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SCOTTYBALLS said:
Ok here is the set up coleman cabinet and pineapple express @ day 18

The top chamber of the cab holds the ballast and Blower the blows into a carbon airfilter.
I you will see the screen setup with the plant gets about 5" taller..
The cabinet is made by colman.
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I thought you only use 1 waterfarm? I can see another in the last two pics.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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Its not started in the same cab.. the bucket you are seeing was from my last harvest with blue mystic. you dont want to start a seedling off on 12/12 even if it could get light
 
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oOBe RyeOo

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Oh. I just picked up a cabinet today and was thinking about using a waterfarm. I have a problem though I don't buy seeds off the internet, just bag seed. I'm trying to figure out the best way to sex my plants if I was to use a waterfarm. The problem is me not being able to grow more than one plant in a waterfarm. Suggestions?
 
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