Should I say I did that, or mention other people that I have no right mentioning in such a forum? Yes, this is the first grow I have done day in day out. But every other one was on a weekly basis, usually visiting the room 2-3 times a week. But me being the one doing most of the work. So yeah, I do know what Im doing. Dont try to twist my own words around on me, you cant. Who the hell do you think you are? Please man, dont take what I have available on this forum as my total collection of experience. The only thing I have one here at this point is the 3 autoflowering plants I have grown. One might think someone who knows how to read, might be able to put two and two together and think, hmm "he said before he had only helped with indoor grows, so if he said on his last indoor grow, he must mean one he helped with." But no, your too ignorant to think that deeply. I dont "cry foul to the slightest mention of LEDs" I said, and will say again, they do good for vegging. Lack on the Flowering. Prove me wrong, since they are so good, and since you are so knowledgeable on the subject, you must be, your defending them like children, you should have no problem pulling in an ounce off of each of those autos you are growing. That 120 should be equivalent to a 600w right? So that shouldnt be an issue. Other people are doing that, if not double that when using hps on autoflowering plants. Good luck with that.