To Top, Or Not Too Top. That Is The ?

[spaceinvaders]

Hey cowboylogic, i had the exact same thing with my l.a woman and i topped here i'l grab a pic for ya

 

[spaceinvaders]

sorry dude thought i had a pic from when she was small but read through ur thread properly .. amazing work dude

 

[cowboylogic]

How many transplants do you normally do? I only do one. Clones go into a 4 inch pot and when approaching rootbound, regardless of whats going on topside, then I transplant to their final pot for the rest of their lives. I think pot size should be coordinated with your veg time/length preference. I like to get 4 weeks in the 2 gallon pots before flowering. For me the race is to fill up the 4 inch pots with roots so they can get their 'real veg time' going in their final pots.

Do you think that limited root mass or rootboundness (is that a word?) helps to control the stretch at all when they hit flowering?

Again about the same. Seed directly in peat pellet. Pellet to 24oz cups. Cups to final home, 2-3 gal pots. The exception being the big bastards I am growing now. They went from 3 gals to either 5 gal buckets or 20 gal totes.

And I think pot/rootbound can control stretch. A plant knows the room and what it has to work with. But there is also a fine line between control and strangulation (lack of a better word).

 

[cowboylogic]

sorry dude thought i had a pic from when she was small but read through ur thread properly .. amazing work dude

Thanks man. I guess there is accomplishment in failure. I am just kinda throwing some things out there and having some fun.

 

[gumball]

So many things involved. This particular plant/grow went near perfect. The only setback was the supercropping.

Insects, minor def, temp problems ect... are all little setbacks that can lenghten the time it takes a plant to finish. And a plant that is sexually mature and healthy given the right micros (Open Sesame) at the right time will begin to flower within days of the switch to 12/12. Alot of things have to go right in order to have the most efficent grow. Its a rare thing. I just got lucky this time. And have learned how to get the most out of this strain. You never know. Some unknown issue may arise and throw a wrench into the works. Its not finished yet.

Makes perfect sense! I had a plant that took everything I through at it well, compared to the other 2 I had. She was a bagseed, that flowered for over 12 weeks. I thought light leak cause everyone else said so. One person looked at my pics and they thought sativa. Well I chopped cause I was worried I screwed her up. But after recording live feed from within the cab, I could not detect any light getting in. So I think the fellow was right about the sativa dominant strain, and she flowered so long because of high heat and not the best environment for optimal growing. Weird plant.

 

[spaceinvaders]

Thanks man. I guess there is accomplishment in failure. I am just kinda throwing some things out there and having some fun.

good on ya mate, you certainly know ur stuff!
can i ask quickly what you think of my l.a woman as its the first time i topped and in the 1st page of ur thread the 1st pic you showed of the mutated plant this looked exactly the same, so here she is now about 4 weeks from the chop how does it looked to have responded?
Sorry to do this in ur thread dude but no one seems to be taking to mine lol

 

[Rocky Mountain High]

So many things involved. This particular plant/grow went near perfect. The only setback was the supercropping.

Insects, minor def, temp problems ect... are all little setbacks that can lenghten the time it takes a plant to finish. And a plant that is sexually mature and healthy given the right micros (Open Sesame) at the right time will begin to flower within days of the switch to 12/12. Alot of things have to go right in order to have the most efficent grow. Its a rare thing. I just got lucky this time. And have learned how to get the most out of this strain. You never know. Some unknown issue may arise and throw a wrench into the works. Its not finished yet.

I am yet to have that perfect grow from start to finish. Haven't even come close but I'm working on it every set.

That's what it's all about though. Optimizing genetics with a flawless grow that is dialed in. Everyone chases but few achieve and fewer still do it consistently.

 

[cowboylogic]

good on ya mate, you certainly know ur stuff!
can i ask quickly what you think of my l.a woman as its the first time i topped and in the 1st page of ur thread the 1st pic you showed of the mutated plant this looked exactly the same, so here she is now about 4 weeks from the chop how does it looked to have responded?
Sorry to do this in ur thread dude but no one seems to be taking to mine lol

No worries pal. Please feel free to ask any questions you have. This is an open journal.

And your plant looks great. I would say you got it right, topping for 4. Nice work. But in all actuallity its hard to top 'wrong' so to speak. You just dont always get the exact results your looking for. But the plant keeps on ticking.

 

[spaceinvaders]

No worries pal. Please feel free to ask any questions you have. This is an open journal.

And your plant looks great. I would say you got it right, topping for 4. Nice work. But in all actuallity its hard to top 'wrong' so to speak. You just dont always get the exact results your looking for. But the plant keeps on ticking.

Thanks man + rep thats good to know.
I'l deffo keep an eye on this one aswell mate that querkle looks extreme!!

 

[cowboylogic]

I am yet to have that perfect grow from start to finish. Haven't even come close but I'm working on it every set.

That's what it's all about though. Optimizing genetics with a flawless grow that is dialed in. Everyone chases but few achieve and fewer still do it consistently.

I just got lucky on this one. Anyways some updated pics. First is the OB supercrop. Second is the Sharksbreath w/ 3 tops. They were all treated a bit different but its hard to tell now. So damn bushing and too big to move around much. The third is the Querkle 2 top that I see now is actually an Amnesia Lemon. Got some clones mixed up in the spring and I guess this one slipped by. Shows how close I was paying attention! lol. The Fourth is the White Russian topped for 4 vegged then supercropped and vegged some more. Its going to be a monster yielder. And the last few just pics are of the SB/AL/WR packed into the 6x4 flower room. 600 HPS Hortilux and 400 CMH. They are loving the mix!

 

[cowboylogic]

The pics are all mixed up again. Guess everything is normal! lol See to be a trend in this thread. Anyways I think you get the picture. Or bad pictures as it may be. They are just too big to move around much. Actually wont be able to move them again until harvest. Too risky.

 

[cowboylogic]

White Russian Orange BudSharksbreathAmnesia Lemon I had tagged as a Querkle. Oneside of it anyways.View attachment 1070666

I want to add the Sharksbreath branch that was stairstepped per Rats method is showing shorter spacing between nodes. Crappy light placement or not. I would say using this method trimmed 4 or 5 inches off its height.

 

[cowboylogic]

Thanks man + rep thats good to know.
I'l deffo keep an eye on this one aswell mate that querkle looks extreme!!

Put a link to your journal/thread in your signature. More folks will check it out. I am going to check some of your posts out, see what your up too....

And sorry. I was stoned and lazy when marking/moving clones. The Querkle is a Amnesia Lemon. The good luck for me is, just as tasty! Its a win-win.

 

[spaceinvaders]

Put a link to your journal/thread in your signature. More folks will check it out. I am going to check some of your posts out, see what your up too....

And sorry. I was stoned and lazy when marking/moving clones. The Querkle is a Amnesia Lemon. The good luck for me is, just as tasty! Its a win-win.

Nice 1 geeza appreciate it, amnesia lemon eh never heard of that 1 but will check it out sounds good tho. i grew the sharksbreath last time round that stuff is wicked urs a DNA aswell or?...
i'l put the link properly now, the spaceivaders sign is a link but yea cant see many people noticing like u said.

 

[GoldenGanja13]

They look great Cowboy. I am thinking about starting some sharksbreath, how was the veg? Did they short and fat or tall and thin?

 

[cowboylogic]

They look great Cowboy. I am thinking about starting some sharksbreath, how was the veg? Did they short and fat or tall and thin?

Thanks for stopping by. Figured you woulld enjoy the big plants. Anyways the SB is very Indica. I think you could grow them as tight as ya want. Veg was most of the summer. Germed sometime in late April or early May. Most of the stretch was in the top of the plant. All 3 branches have grown into very typical xmas trees regardless of how they were pruned. Its my first time around with it but promising so far. looks to be a big yielder.

 

[cowboylogic]

Almost forgot. Daryl and Daryl wanted to say Hi to Larry. They are enjoying the white beaches. Thanks to the move in of gnats.

 

[GoldenGanja13]

ROFLAO, Yeah I will have to tell Larry they said Hello. So I'm thinking I would 4 top the SB then once they get going fim them one time. I wonder if they still will Christmas tree?

Almost forgot. Daryl and Daryl wanted to say Hi to Larry. They are enjoying the white beaches. Thanks to the move in of gnats.View attachment 1072389

 

[cowboylogic]

No I topped this one early about the time it was showing the 6th node. Topped for 2 and just ended up being a trip. Then trimmed from there. Its in the first pages of the journal. Give larry my best. LMAO Stick around. Got some fun stuff planned for the fall. Plus your 2 cents is always welcome.

 

[GoldenGanja13]

I diffidently will be about from time to time and also I want to read the whole journal. You know I have mad respect for any good grow, and I really want to see how this came about.

No I topped this one early about the time it was showing the 6th node. Topped for 2 and just ended up being a trip. Then trimmed from there. Its in the first pages of the journal. Give larry my best. LMAO Stick around. Got some fun stuff planned for the fall. Plus your 2 cents is always welcome.