question on cloning.

Can you clone a plant in the flowering stage and keep the clone under the 12/12 with the mother plant? will it still grow? I can't put plants under 24-7 cycle for veg because my grow room is not taller than 2 1/2'. LOL but i still want :joint: for free! :D these are my babies right now. My lighting sucks really bad because im poor lol but hopefully after this grow i will have enough to buy better growing medians.

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My sprouts seem fairly tall though. Is there a reason for that? They just popped right up and are about 3 inches out of the soil. some are taller than the one that has been there for 2 1/2 weeks - 3 weeks. But they are all looking fairly healthy non the less. I take very good care of them and rotate them 1nce every other day. :P
 

rucca

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they look ok, but are stretched from lack of light intensity. Your CFLs can be much closer

Clones will root in 12/12
 

Airwave

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Can you clone a plant in the flowering stage and keep the clone under the 12/12 with the mother plant? will it still grow? I can't put plants under 24-7 cycle for veg because my grow room is not taller than 2 1/2'. LOL but i still want :joint: for free! :D these are my babies right now. My lighting sucks really bad because im poor lol but hopefully after this grow i will have enough to buy better growing medians.

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My sprouts seem fairly tall though. Is there a reason for that? They just popped right up and are about 3 inches out of the soil. some are taller than the one that has been there for 2 1/2 weeks - 3 weeks. But they are all looking fairly healthy non the less. I take very good care of them and rotate them 1nce every other day. :P
Two things here:
1. You can clone from a flowering plant but it is more difficult to get it to root than taking one from a vegging plant.
2. You aren't supposed to put clones under direct light. But you are using CFLs, so if you put the clone as far away from the light as you can...who knows, maybe.

Try it and see.
 
Airwave thank you for the info. My lights will be moved closer asap tonight when the lights come back on lol. I will try using the lights mid way up the mother and at the top of the mother when i get to that point and try to keep the clones under the mother i figure that will help keep too much light from hurting the baby clones. I am going to install 2 more lights today hopefully.

If cloning from flowering and keeping the 12/12 light cycle this means that from mother to clone the plant will not stop taking in the condition that it is flowering will this make the clone focus less on rooting? Can anyone give a percentage on success if done this way?
 

skunkushybrid01

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i expect to get 100% success rate no matter what light schedule i use for cloning. i also have no problems cloning 3ft away from a 600W HPS.

but that's just me.

direct light is fine from a CFL... imo.
 
i dont have the funds to buy anything to grow right now i am just using things that i can find and these cfl's are all i have. when this first harvest is done with i will be buying things to grow the clones of the mothers fairly greater in yield hopefully. thanks for the CFL info i didnt know that skunk now that i know that i wont have to protect my clones from any CFL light.
 

skunkushybrid01

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i dont have the funds to buy anything to grow right now i am just using things that i can find and these cfl's are all i have. when this first harvest is done with i will be buying things to grow the clones of the mothers fairly greater in yield hopefully. thanks for the CFL info i didnt know that skunk now that i know that i wont have to protect my clones from any CFL light.
they need light. definitely no need to worry about a CFL. I never have.

are you putting them in a propagator?
 
They will have a dome yes. I hear that is the most successful way to root a clone. Though I probably haven't heard as much as most of the fellow growers on here I am a noobie. This is my 2nd attempt to get some good buds. Only thing is I am too poor to afford seeds so its just some reggie seedlings but I am going to try to get good quality out of it and try to find something better off of the money that it makes. If you have any advice on helping with growing some good quality from reggie seeds I would appreciate the help. I know killing the males is most important to the quality it comes out to be. I know most reggie growers dont worry about males but most reggie is outdoor im going for quality these days im tired of the old high school reggie shit lol.
 

skunkushybrid01

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imo a prop is the best way. it's my own method too. doubtless people will try and encourage you to go aero... but the rooting times are not much different imo, and a prop has a higher chance of 100% success 90% of the time. I'm sure from what i've seen of aero cloning and the problems people have with it it's not 100% reliable.
 
what about water cloning? have you ever tried it? and what do you think about trying to get quality from reggie seeds? i think it could work if properly taken care of.
 

Pureblood89

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you can get quallity seeds from any genectically healthy plant, and for water cloning i read up on that, seems like its much easier to just use rooting powder/gel and plant the clone in soil or rockwool.
 

Brick Top

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1. You can clone from a flowering plant but it is more difficult to get it to root than taking one from a vegging plant.

The answer to difficult cloning is air layering.

Learn How to Air Layer

Daniel Overcash


When it comes to vegetative propagation, I naturally think of taking a plant cutting and rooting it in the ground or in some other media. But air layering is different: It’s done aboveground while the propagule (a bud, tuber, root or shoot) is still attached to the parent plant.
Make a 1½-inch wound to start the air layering process.
Photo Credit: Daniel Overcash

Wrap the wound with sphagnum moss or soil, and cover it with plastic wrap.
Photo Credit: Daniel Overcash

After placing the soil and plastic wrap around the wound, tie a rubber band at each end to form an airtight seal.
Photo Credit: Daniel Overcash

Cover your airtight seal with aluminum foil to reflect the light.
Photo Credit: Daniel Overcash


As strange as the method sounds, this way of propagation has actually been practiced for centuries – although it’s not too common because of the time it takes to “grow” a cutting. Typically the best time to air layer is in early spring on the past year’s growth. Many times the cuttings are ready by fall, but some cuttings may take two growing seasons to root.



You may need a lot of patience with this technique, but for those hard-to-root plants, air layering is a highly effective way to reproduce plants. What’s more, it’s not too difficult! All you need is a little patience, a little work and a few simple supplies:

  • A sharp knife
  • Sphagnum moss (or potting soil in a pinch)
  • Plastic wrap (the kind from your kitchen)
  • 2 rubber bands cut in half
  • Aluminum foil
  • Rooting hormone (optional)
Once you’ve got everything handy, just proceed in a step-wise fashion:



Step 1: After selecting the branch you want to propagate from, come down 12 inches from the tip of the branch and make two parallel cuts 1½ inches apart with a sharp knife. Don’t cut through the branch! Just cut deeply enough so the outside bark peels off. (What you’re going for is an exposed wound.)



Step 2 (optional): If you’d like, add a little rooting hormone to the wound to speed up the rooting process.



Step 3: Wrap the wound with moist sphagnum moss (or potting soil), then cover it with plastic wrap to form an airtight pouch. (Note: This is the hardest step – and it can be amusing just trying to keep the moss from falling off the limb while getting the plastic wrap securely around it. To make the task a bit easier, I like to place the moss or potting soil in the plastic wrap first, then wrap both around the wound at the same time.)



Step 4: Tie the rubber bands around the ends of the plastic wrap. (So now you should have a ball of moss wrapped in plastic wrap around the wound.)



Step 5: Cover the plastic wrap with aluminum foil. The foil protects the wound from sunlight in two ways: First, it prevents sunlight from destroying the hormone that causes rooting. Second, it reflects sunlight and keeps the rooting area from getting too hot.



And then you wait (and wait). To determine if a cutting is fully rooted, periodically check it by removing the aluminum foil to see if roots have grown to the edge of the plastic.



Step 6: Once you’ve determined that the cutting is fully rooted, it’s time to plant your baby plant. First you need to cut the baby off of the mother plant below where your pouch was located. Then plant your new plant in a pot using the appropriate potting mix, or plant it outside in the right spot for that species’ particular sun and drainage requirements.



Step 7: Don’t forget to maintain your baby plant! Small newly rooted plants should receive far less sun exposure while initially growing than the mother plant requires, so do provide it some shade. And keep your little plant well-watered – but also well-drained – until it’s established. Consider fertilizing lightly as you would the mother plant.
 

skunkushybrid01

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bit of a waste of time doing that with a flowering plant though don't you think?

I mean it is great advice, don't get me wrong... but you quoted a question on cloning flowering plants and gave an answer on cloning difficult plants. You see what I mean?

it's that irrelevance thing we were talking about again.
 
That is good info and i might try it a little later in my future gardens but that is a little much for now if you looked at my pics in the first page i am just trying to get something started right now i love growing and maintaining cannabis plants and i really want a future in this but I have to start off the hard way with scrap im not sure how well it is going to work but hopefully all the info i am taking in will help in the future grows. I am going to start cloning off of these plants though. This is for mostly smoking but i want profit as well so i can start putting together a better grow op. as for getting quality seeds from plants is not what im trying for. Getting quality bud from reggie seeds is what im looking to do.
 

Brick Top

New Member
bit of a waste of time doing that with a flowering plant though don't you think?

I mean it is great advice, don't get me wrong... but you quoted a question on cloning flowering plants and gave an answer on cloning difficult plants. You see what I mean?

it's that irrelevance thing we were talking about again.
Like I mentioned in another thread, you need to attend some reading comprehension courses, well that or your short term memory is severely lacking because you inaccurately claimed my message was irrelevant and and said; 'you quoted a question on cloning flowering plants and gave an answer on cloning difficult plants" but the actual message I responded to was advice on if an attempt to clone were made what pitfalls might occur and the words; "You can clone from a flowering plant but it is more difficult to get it to root than taking one from a vegging plant" were used. See, look right below this and you will find the exact quote of the portion of the message I was replying to.

Originally Posted by Airwave 1. You can clone from a flowering plant but it is more difficult to get it to root than taking one from a vegging plant.
Did you see it? If you did then try using some of your amazing powers of deductive reasoning and play Sherlock Holmes for a moment and see if you can discover the connection between a message saying cloning while in flower is difficult and my reply about how to clone when cloning is difficult.

Like in another thread you totally fail to understand that growing cannabis is not separated from the rest of the botanical world and things that apply to most plants and bushes and trees in the world also totally and completely apply to cannabis plants. That includes techniques for cloning.

I have cloned that exact way, though not in flower as in the case of the original question, but regardless, if early enough in flower the technique would still work, and each time I have done it, it has worked perfectly and just as is seen in the pictures.
 

skunkushybrid01

Well-Known Member
Like I mentioned in another thread, you need to attend some reading comprehension courses, well that or your short term memory is severely lacking because you inaccurately claimed my message was irrelevant and and said; 'you quoted a question on cloning flowering plants and gave an answer on cloning difficult plants" but the actual message I responded to was advice on if an attempt to clone were made what pitfalls might occur and the words; "You can clone from a flowering plant but it is more difficult to get it to root than taking one from a vegging plant" were used. See, look right below this and you will find the exact quote of the portion of the message I was replying to.

Did you see it? If you did then try using some of your amazing powers of deductive reasoning and play Sherlock Holmes for a moment and see if you can discover the connection between a message saying cloning while in flower is difficult and my reply about how to clone when cloning is difficult.

Like in another thread you totally fail to understand that growing cannabis is not separated from the rest of the botanical world and things that apply to most plants and bushes and trees in the world also totally and completely apply to cannabis plants. That includes techniques for cloning.

I have cloned that exact way, though not in flower as in the case of the original question, but regardless, if early enough in flower the technique would still work, and each time I have done it, it has worked perfectly and just as is seen in the pictures.
you'll need to re-veg the cutting. if it is early enough into flower then you should cut it off to prevent it flowering any further... not leave it on the branch to continue flowering for a further 2 weeks.
 
Im not saying that I dont appreciate you giving your advice and it is a useful tip. I didnt even know that was possible and I will try it but in a later garden. is there anything i can do to maximize THC level out of these reggie plants?
 

skunkushybrid01

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stress makes for extra trichomes. shake the plants now and again... you could also trim off all of the leaves with a week left to flower. another good one is the drought response, right at the end of the grow be sure to let the medium dry right out. One way a plant will preserve water is producing extra trich's.
 

Brick Top

New Member
you'll need to re-veg the cutting. if it is early enough into flower then you should cut it off to prevent it flowering any further... not leave it on the branch to continue flowering for a further 2 weeks.

I finally figured it out. You are confusing my having given information on what CAN be done for me having said it would be the best thing or a good thing when I never said that. I only offered an option that would work and nothing more. If you remember where I said I have never done it while in flower? That is because I have always cloned early, I have never taken a clone after a plant has gone into flower and while it can be done I would never suggest it to anyone. Again, I only offered another option and nothing more.

In short you confused the information I provided about what could be done for me actually having said it should be done. Do you happen to notice the difference there?

Reading comprehension ... it comes in rather handy my lad.
 
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