Did I veg too long?

[Tundra]

yea i see other plants are shorter, and mine is an indica and it got pretty tall, i veg for 2 months, but like most of the bottom leaves fell off, well dried up they wasnt getting light . well i it still gots a bunch of leaves, am i supose to cut them off so bud sites get more light?
i got 2 lights one is 7000 lumens 6500k
the other one dont think is for flowering cus its 5000k
but thats all i got
when will the buds start to fill in get swole?

 

[420BongRips]

You didn't veg too long, some people veg there plant for up to a year before flowering. You can cut the leaves to accommodate the lighting, but don't trim off too much, just make sure your canopy gets a nice even distribution of lighting. If you really don't need to trim leaves, then don't. Once you put the plant into a 12/12 light regiment the plant will go into the "flowering stage" and will produce buds.

 

[darkdestruction420]

I would never cut a leaf off, it hurts, not helps. tie it out of the way if you need to. How far away did you keep the lights? thats the main cause of stretching usually. You should get some 2700k for flowering. Flowering with only blue is not a good idea. the bottom leaves yellowing and falling off is probally a nitrogen def. have you been feeding it? with the setup you have now i wouldnt be to optimistic about the buds swelling up and getting huge, but normally by 3-4 weeks flowering(counted from when the first true flower showed, not when you flip to 12/12) your buds should be fairly formed and by 6 weeks they should be nice and big. Then during the last 2 weeks of its life cycle(make sure you dont harvest too early, many people do) it will start cannabilising its leaves and put the energy into the buds. Thats when buds gain most of their final mass.

 

[stvitusdance]

you can veg forever tundra. however 2 months is plenty - perfect. everybody does it different, some people do lots of pruning, especially of the bottom branches and leaves, and other people just leave them alone. personally i clean out the bottom branches because my light won't penetrate the canopy that deep.

5000k is just fine. 6500k is great for veg. 2700k is great for flower. but lot of people grow weed all through the lifecycle with any of those "k's."

yea i see other plants are shorter, and mine is an indica and it got pretty tall, i veg for 2 months, but like most of the bottom leaves fell off, well dried up they wasnt getting light . well i it still gots a bunch of leaves, am i supose to cut them off so bud sites get more light?
i got 2 lights one is 7000 lumens 6500k
the other one dont think is for flowering cus its 5000k
but thats all i got
when will the buds start to fill in get swole?

 

[Tundra]

I would never cut a leaf off, it hurts, not helps. tie it out of the way if you need to. How far away did you keep the lights? thats the main cause of stretching usually. You should get some 2700k for flowering. Flowering with only blue is not a good idea. the bottom leaves yellowing and falling off is probally a nitrogen def. have you been feeding it? with the setup you have now i wouldnt be to optimistic about the buds swelling up and getting huge, but normally by 3-4 weeks flowering(counted from when the first true flower showed, not when you flip to 12/12) your buds should be fairly formed and by 6 weeks they should be nice and big. Then during the last 2 weeks of its life cycle(make sure you dont harvest too early, many people do) it will start cannabilising its leaves and put the energy into the buds. Thats when buds gain most of their final mass.

Yea what im worried about is harvesting too late, cus i wont harvest till they get swole, but some hairs are turning brown isnt that not supose to happen till its its havest time?

 

[darkdestruction420]

pistils die and are replaced with new ones throughout the flowering phase, if its all the pistils it means you either got pollinated or you underwent some stress severe enough to kill almost all the pistils most likely. Either one is bad if it does happen, just so you know why in case it does. How about a few pics and how long have u been flowering?

 

[Tundra]

pistils die and are replaced with new ones throughout the flowering phase, if its all the pistils it means you either got pollinated or you underwent some stress severe enough to kill almost all the pistils most likely. Either one is bad if it does happen, just so you know why in case it does. How about a few pics and how long have u been flowering?

I been flowering 6 weeks
but they should be swole buds by now

 

[darkdestruction420]

you need more light and some red spectrum.

 

[Tundra]

pistils die and are replaced with new ones throughout the flowering phase, if its all the pistils it means you either got pollinated or you underwent some stress severe enough to kill almost all the pistils most likely. Either one is bad if it does happen, just so you know why in case it does. How about a few pics and how long have u been flowering?

yea not all the pistils turning brown, some, in one plant more then others, like on the biggest one theres only like 2, in the others like in each bud site.
this is my first thing flowering so im wondering if they should be bigger then this?
well buds should start showing up but must be my lights, i got a 23 watt 2700 see what that does.

 

[darkdestruction420]

That might help a little, how far have u been keeping the lights from the plant?

 

[darkdestruction420]

To answer your original question, Yes, you did veg too long for your setup.

 

[cowboylogic]

Def need more light. Like DD said, get some more red spectrum in there. 150-250 watt HPS are pretty cheap.

 

[Tundra]

Def need more light. Like DD said, get some more red spectrum in there. 150-250 watt HPS are pretty cheap.

yea i agree HPS lights are cheap but the ballast are not, and i got an 250 watt HPS but no ballast so i cant hook it up, pluns it might get too hot with it in there sense it gets up to 90 witht he cfl lights.

 

[Tundra]

To answer your original question, Yes, you did veg too long for your setup.

yea i was thinkin i veg too long, but i was told to veg for 2 months, i wanted taht stem to get thick and it did but the lower life was dyin off cus the light wasnt getting to them,
the plant is about 5 feet and its an indica, i just wanted to get more bud sites thats why, but i should of just started with one seed isntead of all 5
on my next grow ill have hps lights, but right now im on low budget.
i understand more then i did, it was my first time after all
ill get better at this eventually.
but im only going to grow in DWC

 

[cowboylogic]

yea i agree HPS lights are cheap but the ballast are not, and i got an 250 watt HPS but no ballast so i cant hook it up, pluns it might get too hot with it in there sense it gets up to 90 witht he cfl lights.

With HID you can keep the ballast outside of the grow chamber. I think you will be surprised at your temps when you do eventually make the switch. The cfl's bulbs themselves produce very little heat. But all of those small ballasts actually produce a great deal of heat when they are all added together. Keep an eye on ebay. You can often get a complete 250 watt HPS for around 100 bucks.

 

[darkdestruction420]

You can get a 400w remote ballast all ready to go right out of the box just plug it in the wall for 120 here-
http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=47929
I do suggest paying the 4 for the the growbright bulb, it adds 5,000 more lumens(55,000) than the normal one(50,000).

 

[Tundra]

why is it getting those yellow spots ont he leaves? is it heat stress?
let me know how they look so far.
am i supose to put less water when its on flowering stage?
and another airstone?

 

[coaster123]

they have got atleast another 5 weeks to go get some HPS on them m8

dont worry about the white spots they look far to green aswell ease off on the nitrogen

and they look a little over watered aswell m8

 

[Tundra]

they have got atleast another 5 weeks to go get some HPS on them m8

dont worry about the white spots they look far to green aswell ease off on the nitrogen

and they look a little over watered aswell m8

they got like 5 weeks? koo thanks , yea each time i change the water i put like 5 gallons of water , its a 10 gallon reservoir
so next time i should put like 2 gallons or 1? well tomarrow ill change it and put like 2 see how it does and give it less nutes.
and i got a 250 hps light but no ballast and i cant afford one right now, i got me a 200 watt output cfl light 2700k i believe thats the biggest 2700k they got.
is 85 degrees too hot? cus that's the temp right now.
what you mean ease off on the nitrogen how i do that?
good looking out

 

[darkdestruction420]

200w output? you mean 200w equivelent incandesent watts or actual watts? How many lumens does it put out?