Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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Uncle Ben

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Dave, I need your help brother. I have one Church and it's looking like hell. I've given her pure N and it's only seeming to get worse. I have watered / not watered / nuted / left it alone and it's still losing all it's leaves. I'm posting a pic for you. I "read" the plant as needing N, but it's not responding positively to the N. Some of my kushes are doing the same thing. Thanks so much and I'm sorry for posting in your thread Uncle Ben, but this is really important.
What is "pure N"? What is the native soil like, the structure? If very heavy clay, did you fracture the sides and bottom of the hole? Did you transplant deep (you should have). A plant likes stability, light but constant salts, water, light. You're stressing it out by flipping around with this and that, which shows up as leaf drop. By not making a correct diagnosis and understanding plant requirements, you have only made matters worse.

BTW guys, I have a Gardening tweeks thread where issues like this could go. I've finally got some degree of stability posting by changing browsers.

Good luck,
UB
 

Uncle Ben

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ive aqsked this question and he did the same thing to me just blew me off and told me to read the beginning of the thread. I had already done that b4 I asked the ? and the answer is anyones guess I suppose. I did it the way I thought it would be done and none of the plants gave me 4 dominant colas and I saw a guy who did it the other way that I thought was wrong and he didn't get 4 main colas either. We both got 2 dominant colas and 2 smaller colas. If this site does fail because people not helping people I think it's ironic that he is calling out every one else out for not being helpful. Expect him to make you feel like a retard for wanting to try this.
Look fellas, I dont' have a crystal ball. Try it and see. Just when you think you have a handle on plant responses, you get different results. If you have a 5' tall plant still in veg and you top above the 2nd node, then the plant should respond with dominant colas, HOWEVER, by then the plant will have put out output in those areas long before, so, your mileage may vary.

IOW, there is a reason why I SAID ON THE FIRST PAGE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU GET 5 OR 6 NODES AND THEN TOP ABOVE THE FIRST OR SECOND.

I'm just tired of belaboring the points and having to hand hold some of you noobs who want to be told what to do, what to expect as opposed to trying to understand what makes a plant tick.....which was the purpose of this thread.

UB
 

ElectricPineapple

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i honestly dont get how they cant understand your first post. all they need to do is find out what a TRUE node is, which you can google and wiki will tell you, then just top above the second node when you have 5-6 nodes. i did it and the first time, all but one got 4 dom colas and i think do to my space issues in veg, caused the other cola to not become dominant and stayed short. its not a hard concept to get. they just wont do the little bit extra research on the points they dont understand
 

mindphuk

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i honestly dont get how they cant understand your first post. all they need to do is find out what a TRUE node is, which you can google and wiki will tell you, then just top above the second node when you have 5-6 nodes. i did it and the first time, all but one got 4 dom colas and i think do to my space issues in veg, caused the other cola to not become dominant and stayed short. its not a hard concept to get. they just wont do the little bit extra research on the points they dont understand
They also should take note that this is posted in Advanced Marijuana Cultivation.
 

anomolies

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hmm.. I don't get it though.. Why top to the 2nd node and lose a week or more of growth... Doesn't fimming produce the same results? Or do you not get giant colas from fimming?
 

jjfoo

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It isn't a matter of which produces the most, it is more of a style thing. There comes a point where too many colas can dilute things.
 

sixstring2112

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It isn't a matter of which produces the most, it is more of a style thing. There comes a point where too many colas can dilute things.
I hear that, this one is diluted with sticky colas. all the info you need is on the first couple pages, if you dont get it go back to the nubie threads. these are the last pics of this girl, i'm gunna chop it in 20 mins;) peace.
 

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HDB

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Please forgive my ignorance, even though I wiki'd and I believe I know what a "node" is, I really couldn't find for sure where the first "true" node is. Is the first node the single fingered leafs after the cats? or is that considered the same node? Just really need clarification what the heck the first true node is, hehe.. Thanks in advance peeps.. :)
 

HDB

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It's the one above cotyledons bro.
Ok, see I have a few plants that the cats are well below the single finger leaved node, maybe 1/2 nch, had a little stretching before I caught it and moved light closer, and a couple plants that the single fingered leaf node is almost comin out of the same spot the cats are. This is why Im confused, or it may be the WW from last batch, I don't know. lol
 

whiteflour

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ANY node with serrated fan leaf or branch attached is a node. The area where the cotyledons attach will eventually grow over. It just looks like a node, it's a false node.
 
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