bugs????

slow69beetle

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Lets see on my plants i have noticed some slime on the leaves and some sort of web material. Also one of my babys got like eaten eaten at the bottom like threw the stem! what is happening and how do i get rid of these critters?
 

lexipexi

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sounds like spider mites or something - put a green house cover on them so the big bugs keep out - i have done this and it has worked very well to keep large bugs out - and get some pestacide - an organic one.

i have seen large spiders and beetles, crickets trying to get into my green house - i think bugs just love the taste....
 

eastlosg1

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Lets see on my plants i have noticed some slime on the leaves and some sort of web material. Also one of my babys got like eaten eaten at the bottom like threw the stem! what is happening and how do i get rid of these critters?

When i saw the first of spidermites i killed them by hand, didn't see them after that.
 

mogie

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Contributed by: David Spade

A spider mite web may be so small it is only seen under a magnifying lens, a microscope or Macro lens.








The following spider-mite images were contributed by: Squilly

The Collective..


Close up..


The eggs..
 

mogie

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Contributed by: Chimera
Thanks to: Bunz
Submitted: 07-19-2003
Images archived: 2003

Introduction

[SIZE=-2]Image by: Green Shaman[/SIZE] Let me first start out by offering you my sympathies... mites are one of the worst pests you can encounter while growing cannabis. They can reproduce at a phenomenal rate and easily have the potential to ruin your flowering crop, nay all your plant material IF you aren't vigilant about getting rid of them.

Scared yet? You should be! Hopefully this will wake you to the seriousness of the situation; trust me you don't want to see a full blown mite infestation. Not a pretty site. That having been said, if you take care and understand the life cycle of the mites, you should be able to rid yourself of them quite easily.

The Environment

Mites have a life cycle that varies directly with the environment... in a very hot, dry climate they can complete a life cycle in a few weeks. If the environment is cooler, and has more humidity, it can take them over a month to hatch, mature and leave their own offspring for the next wave of attacks on your plants.

This is very important to understand, because it's easier to destroy the population if there aren't new ones popping up as fast as you can kill them.

So your first goal is to make the environment less hospitable for the evils... drop the temps as low as possible, and increase the humidity in your grow chambers. An evaporative cooler should help.... this can be as simple as a bucket with a fan pointing across the water. Stale air is a no no as well, so get some good fans constantly blowing across your plants (making it very difficult for mites to lay their eggs) and increase the ventilation if possible... depending on your setup, this should also help drop the temps, but may decrease overall humidity.

Chemical sprays

Spraying daily with water is really hinders the spotted mite's reproduction.

There are many sprays that will kill spider mites. Kelthane, Malathion, Neem oil, pyrethrum based sprays.... the list goes on and on.

There is a product called AVID which is sold illegally under the counter in many hydro stores. AVID is similar to a systemic; it is translaminar. The safety of AVID in cannabis and breakdown periods in leaf tissue have never been shown adequately IMO, so I don't use it nor recommend its use to anyone. NEVER use AVID in flowering, if you feel you need to use it at all.

I've had great results using the 'softer' pyrethrum based products. Pyrethrum is a natural miticide produced by flowers in the chrysanthemum family, it works against all the different mite populations. Repeated treatment is key; most of the sprays are unable to penetrate to the eggs; so you need to re-apply the spray to take care of the hatched eggs before they have a chance to lay more eggs themselves.

Spray application:

Get yourself a quality pressure sprayer (a separate container and a wand type are the best) at home depot or Canadian Tire etc. The wand allows you to easily get under the leaves where the mites spend most of their time sucking the juices from your babies.

I highly recommend two product by 'Safers': EndAll and Trounce.
The active ingredient in both is pyrethrum, but Endall is based on canola oil, Trounce is based on soap and alcohol. Get the Endall and Trounce concentrate bottles, mix your own spray from these at home... it's much cheaper, and you will be able to use your own sprayer.

Note: Safer's insecticidal soap is pretty much the same as Trounce. Trounce contains alcohol and pyrethrum as well, which will further help kill the bugs.

I like the Endall because it coats the entire surfaces of the leaves well, and seems to penetrate the eggs and kills some of them, where as the trounce doesn't seem to kill the eggs.

I like to apply Endall generously first (Day 1), and let it soak overnight, then rinse with plain water in the morning. Twice a day (if possible) on Days 2-5 spray the plants down using the same pressure sprayer with plain water... make sure you get both top and bottoms of the leaves each time.

On Day 5 mix a batch of the trounce up and again, spray before lights out. Rinse in the morning, and on days 6-10 spray twice daily with plain water.

Day 10- repeat the cycle

This should have killed all the mites on the plants, unless your population is resistant to pyrethrum. If they are resistant, you might substitute a harsher chemical (ie kelthane (flinch) or Malathion (flinch) ) for the second application of Endall.

Spray tips:

Always read the label for mixing direction, and never spray closer to harvest than recommended by the manufacturer (Never use a product recommended for ornamentals only... make sure it is safe for use on food crops.).

These types of sprays are contact sprays... if the solution doesn't come into contact with the pest, the pest won't die!! This is why it is so important to use a good sprayer and make sure you coat the entire plant- top and bottom of the leaves. Even spray the surface of the medium.
The mites MUST come into contact with the spray o be killed. Mite eggs are resistant and won't be destroyed, so you'll need to reapply the spray the before the hatched eggs can lay their own eggs.

[Editor?s note: spot spray if you have never used the chemical before to prevent damage to your entire crop. Never spray with HIDs on, and use appropriate protective gear]

Other homemade chemicals

If you smoke cigarettes, you can also make a spray with a small amount of dish soap, and some tobacco. The nicotine is extremely toxic, and will kill the bugs if they come in contact with it. Break a bunch of cigarettes up and soak the tobacco in water overnight. Beware of the possibility of TMV (tobacco mosaic virus), unless you boil your solution for ~20 minutes (after adding the tobacco) to kill the virus. Let cool, add your few drops of detergent and voila. Strain it, spray it.

You can also add some types of hot pepper powder (cayenne etc), or if you have access to chrysanthemums... get a bunch, remove all the petals and blend them in a blender with water. Strain, and add to your soapy solution. This should work also.
 

Lady luck

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I actually had a fair amount of mites on 15 plants that were still fairly small... about a foot and a half... I sprayed Safer's insecticidal soap on all of them and I mean soaked them down every single leaf especially the undersides.I did this every third day three times...... Monday, Thursday and Sunday for instance. I cant believe it but I have absolutely no sign of mites and it has been almost 7 weeks now. It seems to have worked for me... worth a try. good luck.
 

PuffinPurp

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also works if u spray dawns dish soap on them ;). the taste deters them more than anything but it will make them leave ur plants alone. the soap will work for most of the pests u will encounter, only 1 prob. do ur BEST not 2 get it on the soil. a lil wont hurt ur plant 2 bad but a fair ammount may just kill ur plant.

i used it to get rid of mites and ants, i was spraying (coverin the plant) with a fine mister every 2 days . in 2 weeks i had no more ants nor mites ( growin outside also). i use this treatment once a week and after every rain as well.
 

ICantBelieveItsNotBud

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Dont spend a lot of time trying to make your own spray they never worked for me. My plants are being DESTROYED by bugs and i cant get to homedepot until this weekend so im really sad. They are literally dying and i cant help them right now :(
 
I have a pest problem too right now and im trying to figure out the best organic way to get rid of them with out hurting my plants because they are flowering. I also have tiny tiny little bugs in my soil,what the hell are they and how do i get rid of them. My plants are only a few weeks away from harvest time. Can i still help them without hurting my finished product
 

ICantBelieveItsNotBud

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I have a pest problem too right now and im trying to figure out the best organic way to get rid of them with out hurting my plants because they are flowering. I also have tiny tiny little bugs in my soil,what the hell are they and how do i get rid of them. My plants are only a few weeks away from harvest time. Can i still help them without hurting my finished product
Neem oil maybe thats all i can think of, but im not going to bother with organics. My plants leaves are all destroyed, brown, and shrivelling up i dont want to bother with organic. I just want a chemical that will kill all the bugs and keep them from coming back so my plants can live and grow. It is probably because im growing in a swamp so theres a lot of bugs, but if there is a chemical that will coat the plants and keep a lot of bugs off it for 1week+ i would really want to use it. Just hope i can swing by homedepot this weekend and pick up a good chemical pesticide. I hope i can get some sort of yield for my first grow :/
 

JeffersonBud

Active Member
Once again...hot shots pest strips. This comes from seasoned growers. Solved a mite problem I had a year ago and has solved countless amounts of other gardens. Mites do not like my current strain but i have a few packets just in case I switch.
 

veggiegardener

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Azamax.

It isn't "organic" but it kills bugs and washes off.

It eliminated a huge thrip problem in two applications, for me. White flies and spider mites have been non existent.

Thrips nearly eliminated my okra and watermelons, last year. They like Cannabis, too.
 

Vindicated

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Insecticidal soap and horticultural oil are your best bet, but until then ice water sprayed sharpy to the undersides of the leaves should help. Just make sure your sprayer is set to fine or jet, and not mist or a light shower. The point is to shock and knock them off.
 
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