Is the first two true leaves counted as a node??

[smokedog1]

was just wondering if the first true leaves are counted as a node when counting up to top the plant?? and is it ok to start trimming unwanted lower nodes?? they are nine days vegging [since start feeding and they went under light] two and a half weeks since seed. and they are under a 110 watt t5 twin tube!!

 

[dyzel]

If you mean the first pair of serrated leaves, above the cotyledons, these are considered the first true leaves. You want to count the next set of leaves as the first true node.

 

[DoeEyed]

According to Uncle Ben, those first two serrated leaves, are considered the first node.

 

[dyzel]

Topping in great detail, My guide of choice

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/151706-uncle-bens-topping-technique-get.html

Check it out.

Also, the link in my sig bar takes you to my current grow. I am doing a lot of topping there too!

 

[dyzel]

According to Uncle Ben, those first two serrated leaves, are considered the first node.

Sorry to disagree, but Uncle Bens post says:

The node where the cotyledons attach doesn't count.

I would advise you read that article personally, smokedog1, just so you are 100% sure of what you are doing.
Cheers.

 

[smokedog1]

thanks guys and girls!! ye i went with uncle ben on a couple of northern lights in my last grow went ok! are the serrated leaves the first baby leaves? so the first node wit three leafs is were i start counting??

 

[dyzel]

The first set of leaves that appear after the 2 serrated ones, whether 3 or not, will be the 1st node.

I am trying to do something else. I topped my topped plants topped sites, so I wanna see if I get any significant growth pattern.

Pics? someone can circle the correct node for you in your pic, if need be!

Cheers.

 

[smokedog1]

thanks dyzel! think i will just go back and read it again as you said just to be sure wat im doing! i have 22 bag seed! and 1 blue cheese!! lets hope the bagseed turn out female wat ya think of bagseed??

 

[DoeEyed]

Sorry to disagree, but Uncle Bens post says:



I would advise you read that article personally, smokedog1, just so you are 100% sure of what you are doing.
Cheers.

Yeah Iv'e read the article, good stuff. In fact - had this same disagreement with someone else, I was in your position though. Uncle Ben came over and cleared it up. The cotyledons and the first two serrated leaves do not attatch in the same place. Feel free to double check with UB! If I can find the link I'll post it.

 

[smokedog1]

I like your style dyzel, bit of experimenting ha cool cant wait for all that to come!! ye i have some pics on cam i will try get them up asap!! wat strain you growing??

 

[dyzel]

Sweet, I have 1 Kenyan Land race (Mostly Sativa) nd one undefined, though really good bagseed. I believe it is also a Sativa... Or mostly!

Big guns!

 

[dyzel]

Yeah Iv'e read the article, good stuff. In fact - had this same disagreement with someone else, I was in your position though. Uncle Ben came over and cleared it up. The cotyledons and the first two serrated leaves do not attatch in the same place. Feel free to double check with UB! If I can find the link I'll post it.

Fair enough! I believe you! Link would be great though! Further reading is always a help

 

[DoeEyed]

I can't find it now, it's in Lacygirl's grow, though, if you want to look. Here's the link for that: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/282347-laceygirls-grow.html
But here is the picture that was correct, to top for four colas.

 

[dyzel]

Awesome picture!That's as clear as it gets!
Thanks for the link too.
+rep!