Adding THC solution to make weed MUCH stronger

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Bomb Nugz

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I was just wondering if someone out there could tell me if this would work? so heres the general idea, i was reading a thread started by fdd2blk called the color of my dreams https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/9902-color-my-dreams.html and through reading that i realized that things could be soaked up through the stems of freshly cut buds. If that's possible then is it possible for thc to transfer through them? (im assuming its very possible considering the plant makes thc) and if that is then what would the outcome be if someone were to take a thc solution such as the one here http://www.lycaeum.org/~sputnik/Extraction/extract8.html and slightly dilute it with more everclear so it could be soaked up? would this transfer the almost pure thc into every part of the plant that is attached to the stem including the buds, stems, leaves etc? if so would this enable people to create weed with thc levels of around 70-90% maybe even more considering it would already have its own thc? and if all this were possible it would also mean that the stems and leaves could be smoked as well as the buds because they would have a higher than normal thc content. :eyesmoke:

hahah highdeas are the best bongsmilie and i would love to try this but i don't grow, however if there is anyone out there with a big enough grow op to try this id love to see if it would work!

Peace, BN
 
dyzel

dyzel

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OK... DO NOT DO THIS....

For one, I am assuming that the "everclear" you refer to is alcohol?

Alcohol differs from many other organic chemicals by affecting the way cells operate. At high concentrations it is poisonous and can kill all forms of life, including micro-organisms, humans, plants.
I doubt that this would be of any benefit to your plant whatsoever.
Botany is such an intensively studied and researched topic. If something so simple would work, I am sure someone would have been doing it already for a few decades at least.

Any advancements made sans the assistance of newly developed material is likely to have been attempted previously.

Good luck anyway! And if you try it, let me know if it works.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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THC is not drawn up into buds and it does not change location within plants. THC, along with other cannabinoids, are created in trichome heads. You cannot 'feed' plants THC and increase THC within the plants by doing so.

I am just curious though, without growing a crop to them make THC 'solution' from where would the THC 'solution' come from? It would be kind of a pain and a long wait to grow one or two crops to be able to make the THC 'solution' to then be able to apply it to yet another crop. Wouldn't it?

Elements in soil, just like with grape vines in a vineyard for making wine, cannabis plants will absorb different elements from the soil and at times that can cause a different taste/flavor, again just as with grape vines resulting in differing flavors and odors. But you will not draw much more than that into plants or alter them much more than that in other ways.

If you want to increase the amount of THC you take in while toking make bubble hash from your entire crop, buds and all. Hash, as I am sure you know, is a collection of trichome heads and trichome heads are where THC is found and since when you make bubble hash there is very little plant matter in the hash you get off the screen second from the last one, the second finest screen, is as potent as you will find until someone comes out with a true super-strain, which will occur by feeding a plant a THC 'solution.'

You will be smoking little more than trichome heads so each toke will be like 3 or 5 or maybe 10 tokes of the very same pot if still in bud form.

That should be enjoyable enough for most people I would think.
 
jack the beanstalk

jack the beanstalk

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Making hash would be easier and more efficient. You are talking about taking pure THC, diluting it and soaking it into some plant material via transpiration. Won't work, but even if it could, would be so wasteful and pointless that it's not worth discussing. Just smoke your TCH pure and forget about the weak weed that needs help.

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devilwacause

devilwacause

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I think what he's getting at is using tincture to make a stronger weed. Sorta like what the spice companies are doing. Cannaboids are dissolve-able in everclear and could be sprayed directly on to plant material and leaving it somewhere to evaporate off. The dissolved cannaboids would be left deposited onto the material used. But the question would be the efficiency of this since by putting the everclear on the material will move around cannaboids inside the weed possibly pulling it out and leaving it in a fine crystalline form on the container used. I dont recommend doing it either way - but if you are going to do it, use everclear as your tincture method, not something extremely volatile such as acetone.
 
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Brick Top

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jack the beanstalk said:
Making hash would be easier and more efficient. You are talking about taking pure THC, diluting it and soaking it into some plant material via transpiration. Won't work, but even if it could, would be so wasteful and pointless that it's not worth discussing. Just smoke your TCH pure and forget about the weak weed that needs help.

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Hash is never going to be 100% THC regardless of claims of up to upper 90% THC ranges. A THC percentage rating is the percentage of THC found in a trichome head in relation to all cannabinoids. If it is 20% while still on the plant, that is 20% of all cannabinoids are THC, when you collect trichome heads for hash the other 80% (or whatever each strain will be) of plant matter making up trichome heads will still be in the collected trichome heads in the hash.

What has been removed is most plant matter, not all, just most, so when hash is smoked a vastly greater amount of THC and other cannabinoids are drawn in with each toke than would otherwise be taken in if other non-THC containing plant matter would be toked.
 
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devilwacause said:
I think what he's getting at is using tincture to make a stronger weed. Sorta like what the spice companies are doing. Cannaboids are dissolve-able in everclear and could be sprayed directly on to plant material and leaving it somewhere to evaporate off. The dissolved cannaboids would be left deposited onto the material used. But the question would be the efficiency of this since by putting the everclear on the material will move around cannaboids inside the weed possibly pulling it out and leaving it in a fine crystalline form on the container used. I dont recommend doing it either way - but if you are going to do it, use everclear as your tincture method, not something extremely volatile such as acetone.
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THC is produced in trichome heads, it is not absorbed, it does not travel around through plants from one area to another, feeding plants a THC solution or tincture will not increase how much THC is later found in the trichome heads when tested. Plants do not have receptors to absorb THC and then channel it up into buds and then up trichome stalks and into trichome heads and it will not go elsewhere in plants.

Another thing to consider is genetics. It is impossible to grow any plant beyond its genetic limits, well unless you are subjecting it to radiation or something and mutating it anyway. You just cannot do it.
 
devilwacause

devilwacause

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I know that THC is in the trichomes, but there is a method of making a tincture, cannaboids are dissolveable in alcohols, oils, fats. Read up on making a tincture, what I'm saying is he could then spray his tincture on the weed itself, no the weed isnt "uptaking" anything, but the cannaboids would be left after evaporation on the leaf material. I never said it would go through the roots because obviously alcohol causes cells to shrink and lose water. Just visit your local head shop and look at all those spice blends. The top way they are made is dissolving the "synth" cannaboid in alcohol or...god forbid, acetone....and then it is sprayed onto the material they use, as the alcohol evaporates off it leaves the cannaboid behind.
 
devilwacause

devilwacause

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Basically put it this way...ever made green dragon??? if you were to take the green dragon (it'd have to be some kinda strong as fuck) and spray it on ur buds that u've harvested, and allow the alcohol to evaporate it'd leave behind all the cannaboids in the green dragon right on top of the material it evaporated off of.
 
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Bomb Nugz

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what im saying is could the stem of the plant suck up the thc/everclear mix after being cut from the plant, like could i cut off a branch and soak the end in the solution directly before drying and curing for no more than 24 hours? wouldn't this be absorbed as if it were water? did anyone read the color of my dreams thread? if so then you would understand where im coming from
 
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Bomb Nugz

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@devilwacause no thats not at all what i meant, although that may work it would most likely absorb the thc on the bud its sprayed on and cause some thc loss but within the stem it wouldnt do so if my thinking is correct. read the color of my dreams thread i provided the link already ^^^^ and you'll know what im talking about.
 
devilwacause

devilwacause

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I remember the thread, after going to it bomb. I'm an older member, been floating around here for a couple yrs now off and on as life allowed. The method I mentioned would work for you and would be the way to go if you are really intent on this.

And you know what, hell I can remember times it'd been hella great to have a small spray I coulda sprayed on a cigarette while in public or a bit of green to give it an extra kick when in private. And a tincture would provide that.

But to take the thc straight up the stem. Sorry dude - no way its gonna happen in fact all you will be doing is hurting what you are exposing to this. Want better green, either get better genes or refine your techniques to make the most of what you have. Alcohol makes you dehydrate when you drink too much, it'll do the same to all the cells inside a plant. Plants do have cell walls which aids in helping the cells avoid problems but soaking a stem in everclear in the hopes that it goes up the stem would only hurt your plant/buds.

The reason the thread by fdd started worked is because the color itself is water soluble and non-toxic (food coloring, who know when smoked tho right? hmmm) and the process of osmosis pulls the water and dissolved parts inside the cells of the plant.
 
jack the beanstalk

jack the beanstalk

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If you are lucky you MIGHT get some in the stem. Yummy, stem smoke.

Just smoke your damn concentrate and don't waste it feeding it to plants that don't want it.....kid.
 
jack the beanstalk

jack the beanstalk

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Brick Top said:
Hash is never going to be 100% THC regardless of claims of up to upper 90% THC ranges. A THC percentage rating is the percentage of THC found in a trichome head in relation to all cannabinoids. If it is 20% while still on the plant, that is 20% of all cannabinoids are THC, when you collect trichome heads for hash the other 80% (or whatever each strain will be) of plant matter making up trichome heads will still be in the collected trichome heads in the hash.

What has been removed is most plant matter, not all, just most, so when hash is smoked a vastly greater amount of THC and other cannabinoids are drawn in with each toke than would otherwise be taken in if other non-THC containing plant matter would be toked.
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Way to miss a point. Some budder has been shown to be very close to 100% THC.
 
FlintMegaBowl

FlintMegaBowl

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devilwacause said:
Basically put it this way...ever made green dragon??? if you were to take the green dragon (it'd have to be some kinda strong as fuck) and spray it on ur buds that u've harvested, and allow the alcohol to evaporate it'd leave behind all the cannaboids in the green dragon right on top of the material it evaporated off of.
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Yep, some dispensaries in norcal will "dust" or "spice" top shelf buds. So technically, 'it works' (argue with Steep Hill if you disagree), but it's an ineffecient use of funds and medicine, imo.

THC levels in your system are addition, not multiplication. There's plenty of astronauts out there trying to break the glass ceiling into nirvana and another level of consciousness... but your gonna just green out or risk flirting with a manic episode.

Get quality meds and just take another dose if you require more potency, then titrated to effect =).
 
Ronjohn7779

Ronjohn7779

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Sounds pretty dumb. Sorry, I don't want to rain down on your parade. A plants biological root system works by taking basic elements (for the most part) and through the magic that is life creates some very complicated chemicals, molecules, and cell structures. Just because you feed a plant something doesn't mean it will take on those properties.

If the the thread you're referring to was about making a plant's leafs and buds change colors with food dye. Then you're talking about a whole other process. That works by osmosis. Basically you have a high concentration of colored water and a low concentration of non-colored water (in the plant). Eventually they try to reach a point of equal librium by which there is an equal amount of colored and non-colored water outside of the plant and within it. Thats why that process works. The outside water become lighter due to the non-colored water mixing and the plant becomes colored due to the stained water mixing in it's cells (of which are mostly water).

Also if my assumption is correct (and I'm pretty sure it is) THC and most cannabinoids are hydrophobic molecules. That would mean they don't mix well with water and most likely wouldn't transfer through and osmosis process. It would work a lot like oil and water mixing i.e. things clump up and reform large clusters that float.
 
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