The Scrog Club

[Integra21]

When do I stop training along the screen? Like 2 weeks before flower or what?

I stop training myne right before the flower stretch stops. Usually 2.5-3.5 weeks, but that changes with strain. But you basically want to stop training them when the growth slow dramatically and bud growth takes off.

 

[BooMeR242]

That shit looks sick Boomer. Nice setup, I had dreamed of doing more and my idea looked a lot like your room, but I am very limited on space right now. I liked your old sig pic better. As far as the meters, I grabbed them because I was sick of waiting for the readings ever day, but the give very different readings on my nutrients than the old meters. I calibrated both the old and new, and the old was reading what it always read(calibrated normal)but the new leave in one was showing the ph .4 higher than the old meter, and the ppm 250 higher than the old one. I checked both new leave ins and they had the same readings, but the old ones were still completely off. So Im kinda trusting the old ones since they did me right in the past, and I wating to see if I want to recalibrate the new ones to the old ones or go with the new readings. Otherwise the probes seem of decent quality, the lcd is backlit but very dim, so Im not to worried about it. The blue lab meter is a green backlight and the hanna is kind of orange, so that is in a better spectrum, I give a btter report when Im not so high and I have a little more experience with them.

ya space is usually the limiting factor for most. ull get there one day... until then i think its a fun challenge to yield the most u can with wat space u got. my new space is a warehouse and now the space isnt the issue, its lights and money haha.

but about the meters i find that very interesting. 250ppm off is a huge diff to me. considering i run RO system just to make sure i start with 50ppm and not tap waters 300ppm... so that could b devasting to sensitive strains and real hydro setups with no buffer. IE; rockwool

im gonna do sum more research about that discrepency and see wat comes up. maybe others have seen this. def leave a feedbak on the diff when u get more experienced. worth sharing with everyone. or at least me haha.
grow on brotha

 

[Integra21]

They seem accurate, its just when I calibrate there is that huge difference. But once I got them figured out, I be sure to let you know.

 

[micro.grower]

so what about scrogging a close to pure indica... i only have a bout15 inches of flower height...should i let it bush out till it fills my screen before switching to 12/12? i am also vegging for 14/15 hours of light... due to other complications... is it even possible to fill up a screen using these hours to veg?

 

[BooMeR242]

so what about scrogging a close to pure indica... i only have a bout15 inches of flower height...should i let it bush out till it fills my screen before switching to 12/12? i am also vegging for 14/15 hours of light... due to other complications... is it even possible to fill up a screen using these hours to veg?

interesting to veg for those hours. u mean like 14/10 or 15/9 photoperiods? id veg 18-24hrs and no less. u could hermi the plant or just stress it out hard.

pure indicas dont scrog well from wat i understand but i havent tried it yet. my master bubba kush is mostly indica and a buddy who scrogged it said the netting was more just for support. u dont really get the weave scrog effect. but either way the screen will work great. hopefully peeps on here got sum better feedbak for u

 

[Integra21]

so what about scrogging a close to pure indica... i only have a bout15 inches of flower height...should i let it bush out till it fills my screen before switching to 12/12? i am also vegging for 14/15 hours of light... due to other complications... is it even possible to fill up a screen using these hours to veg?

I agree with Boomer, You should really try to lengthen your veg light cycle. For 100% indicas or close, you simply up the numbers or veg longer. For example I use 3-6 hybrid plants to fill in my 3'x4' screen(depending on clone size), but if I were running strait up indica I would run 8 roughly 12" clones to fill the same space. But as soon as you scrog your strain once, you'll have a much better idea on the numbers and size you'll need to run. Hope this helps, and if you have any other questions, feel free to ask, on a side not, If you're running those shorten light cycles because of heat, Just use a couple of cfl's for the last couple of hours and it shouldnt be a problem, and if you cant do that, then you have other issues to work on(exhaust, other cooling, ect.)

 

[micro.grower]

i was running those light hours for 2 reasons... first reason is to see how long i can veg in those hours without showing sex... i know that plant growth is subsided due to the hours... but that leads to my second reason... i dont want my shit running unless i am home... dont really trust my chick too much when it comes to being ninja like...

 

[micro.grower]

other words... she is not stealthful and i dont think it can stay kept secret unless i am there... i am all about experimenting on plants to see what works for me pretty much...

prolly end up vegging for a couple of months just to get it to bush out like i'd like... but if i can, then that is all i am concerned about... i do appreciate the advice... guess i will have to let my experiment run itself to get a full answer...

 

[BooMeR242]

other words... she is not stealthful and i dont think it can stay kept secret unless i am there... i am all about experimenting on plants to see what works for me pretty much...

prolly end up vegging for a couple of months just to get it to bush out like i'd like... but if i can, then that is all i am concerned about... i do appreciate the advice... guess i will have to let my experiment run itself to get a full answer...

bahaha "ninja like"
love it. seriously made me laugh. idk if uve seen/heard of "Jo Koy" but hes a comedian and in one of his stand ups, he makes a ninja comment in his story. anyways im all for experimenting and say more power to u. ive never tried those photoperiods and dunno if id ever have the chance to. but u understand wats goin on and the possibilites so fuk it right? u got legit reasons anyways, security is always #1. no security, no crop. grow on brotha!

 

[micro.grower]

def security number 1...lol... never heard of the comedian, but will check them out... good news is when i tried to stop vertical growth by pinching off new growth with unsterile tweezers, i get 4 new shoots out of it...

 

[WolfScott]

This time I'm doing a two plant scrog, I'm using strains Aurora Indica and Wonder Women, both from Nirvana. This is my second scrog grow, on my first grow I used one Aurora Indica plant and I yielded 100 grams dry weight. I can't wait to see what I can do with two plants ans double the screen space!

 

[Integra21]

This time I'm doing a two plant scrog, I'm using strains Aurora Indica and Wonder Women, both from Nirvana. This is my second scrog grow, on my first grow I used one Aurora Indica plant and I yielded 100 grams dry weight. I can't wait to see what I can do with two plants ans double the screen space!

Sould turn out prety good. Looks like they are off to a great start. Keep posting updates so we can follow.

 

[Alice42069]

hey everyone great thread i have 2- 6x2 rooms(only using a 2x4ft screen) one veg one flower. and the flower has 6 bagseed plants for my first grow. but the veg has 2 aurora indicas and 2 bubblelicious fems from nirvana about 7 inches tall am going to try a scrog on this babies. they are 3 weeks since sprouting. getting ready to place my chicken wire about 8 1/2 inches above the tops of my pots. the soil is sungrom mix#4 and am using advanced nuts grow and bloom nothing else(shit aint cheap). lights are 8- 48inch t-5 6500k flouro veg and 600w hps flower. the bag seed is blowing my mine right now it has been candy coated even on the fans since week 3 of flowering. in week 6 now. so hear is my big question all this is leading up to. CROPPING?????? yes or no. how many? how soon? and where how should i place the pots? table is 2x3.5ft screen is 2x4ft. help me! help me! also how often should i give then nuts flower and veg. sorry iam a noob and need lots of help. have read a couple different books (cervantez and med grow bible bla bla)but cant get very specific answers that way. thank you very much all.

 

[Integra21]

hey everyone great thread i have 2- 6x2 rooms(only using a 2x4ft screen) one veg one flower. and the flower has 6 bagseed plants for my first grow. but the veg has 2 aurora indicas and 2 bubblelicious fems from nirvana about 7 inches tall am going to try a scrog on this babies. they are 3 weeks since sprouting. getting ready to place my chicken wire about 8 1/2 inches above the tops of my pots. the soil is sungrom mix#4 and am using advanced nuts grow and bloom nothing else(shit aint cheap). lights are 8- 48inch t-5 6500k flouro veg and 600w hps flower. the bag seed is blowing my mine right now it has been candy coated even on the fans since week 3 of flowering. in week 6 now. so hear is my big question all this is leading up to. CROPPING?????? yes or no. how many? how soon? and where how should i place the pots? table is 2x3.5ft screen is 2x4ft. help me! help me! also how often should i give then nuts flower and veg. sorry iam a noob and need lots of help. have read a couple different books (cervantez and med grow bible bla bla)but cant get very specific answers that way. thank you very much all.

With a scrog, there is generally no need to crop. As soon as the main top branch is layed down from the screen a hormone shift will occur that will make side branch growth take off. Just gently spread the branches out and work the tips of them thhrough the screen. After the branches get a couple of inches through the screen, pull them back down through the screen and move them over a slot away from the plant, with the goal of keeping the canopy evenly spaced and level. You want to do this for the first 2-4 weeks(depending on the strain). You pretty much stop moving and training the branches right before the flower stretch stops. You want to place your pots spaced evenly out under the screen. Generally 2 rows of 2 or 3. As far as feeding, in soil, you just stick to the pattern feed, water, water, feed, and most people dont have problems. Just make sure your nutrients arent too strong. It is a lot easier to fix a nutrient deficiency than a nutrient burn. If you have any other questions or I missed one, feel free to ask. Good luck on your first scrog run, it is a lot easier than it seems.

 

[abefroman35]

This is my Aurora Indica Scrog, I vegged for 7 weeks flowered so far for 5 weeks. I got my seeds from Nirvana and they are feminized. I am using a 400 watt HPS/MH light, and I am using Fox Farm nutes. I have my plant in a 3 gallon pot and I use Black gold organic potting mix. I also use Humboldt county's own Bushmaster, Gravity, and Snowstorm ultra.
For more info on my grow check out my journal @ https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/303844-aurora-indica-scrog-screen-green.html
I'm subbed!

DUDEEE CRAZY BRANCHING WOLFSCOTT!!! good job seriously -- you have made my day because i was wondering if i made my screen to small... thank Christ for technology and picture and the internet and RIU and all of you guys because if it was not for you all i would definitely not be in the position i am now! thank you everyone. and thanks again wolfscott, seriously! you gave me hopes and dreams to aspire towards! haha, thanks man.

 

[WolfScott]

DUDEEE CRAZY BRANCHING WOLFSCOTT!!! good job seriously -- you have made my day because i was wondering if i made my screen to small... thank Christ for technology and picture and the internet and RIU and all of you guys because if it was not for you all i would definitely not be in the position i am now! thank you everyone. and thanks again wolfscott, seriously! you gave me hopes and dreams to aspire towards! haha, thanks man.

I'm just glad I could help. I learned almost everything I know about growing right here on RIU, There the real ones who need to be thanked! Thank you RIU

I also thought I would add That I only have 4 1/2 inches between the soil and the screen!

Here are a few updated pics!

 

[Alice42069]

i first decided to scrog after seeing the 3.5oz single aurora plant you grew on youtube. That is badass
So I veg til the screen gets 70% to 80% then move to flower and they should fill the rest of the way in?
Any strain specific advise would be great. I see lots of people like aurora and bubblelicious for scrog.
They are around the 7 to 8 inch mark and am going to put up my screen soon. Can someone hold my
Hand for a minute?

 

[WolfScott]

yep, I let the screen get almost all the way full the switch to 12/12. Then continue to pull the tops back through, for about another week or so, you will notice the tops stop stretching. Also for the first week or two of flowering I continue to feed my plants veg Nutes. AS far as strain specific advice, I've only done the one scrog so far, but I've heard that Sativa Strains work best! A lot of people use Indica strains because of the short flower time, A Sativa strain will take about a month longer to flower. If you have not already I suggest you check out this thread https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/282177-enter-scrog-scroggers-united-post.html I learned everything I know about Scrog in this thread. You can also post messages/questions in my current journal @ https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/332108-aurora-indica-wonder-women-2-a.html Good Luck!

 

[BooMeR242]

heres another example for u guys with my ladies filled in a little more.

vegged for 5 weeks. til 12"
i FIMmed and Supercropped sum that needed it.

still learning to even the canopy out completely for best light distribution but like integra mentioned its based on ur strain how much itll stretch during flower.

 

[WolfScott]

Very nice set up Boomer! + rep 4 U