how do i grow shrooms? how do i make acid? and ye :D

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
that's for an extract..... extracts are easy, as the chemicals are already there, just have to be separated.... a synthesis is completely different.
Beat me to it.

yeah, but that's not good, clean meth..... that's some dirty ass, bunk bullshit from what i understand.....
Clean, pure d-methamphetamine is much harder to synthesize.
 

gogrow

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Beat me to it.



Clean, pure d-methamphetamine is much harder to synthesize.

which explains the high price of "glass".... but at the same time, I dont like meth that much, but if I were to do some, it has to be some pure shit.... I dont know enough about the chemistry to really know WHAT the difference is in the "shake n bake" and the "glass", but I can tell anyone that it is a different product all together.
 

gogrow

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One requires an extremely low iq, the other requires a chemistry class.
oh im aware, they bust those idiots around here all the time.... you'd have to be an idiot to not think that any one step process would be full of other nasties, and not too much of what you are really looking for... are they even actually making meth still, or is it just some precursor that they make in that "process"??
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
you'd have to be an idiot to not think that any one step process would be full of other nasties
They are idiots, they do not have the capability to think this and even if they did, they wouldn't care.. money is money. They are maming methamphetamine, and you think they care about the health of the people they sell it to why? ;-)

are they even actually making meth still, or is it just some precursor that they make in that "process"??
Yeah. More than likely shitty dl-methamphetamine or methamphetamine with various other amphetamines.

e.g the monomethylation of amphetamine you end up with:

  • Amphetamine
  • N-methylamphetamine
  • N,N-dimethyl-amphetamine
  • N,N,N-trimethylamphetammmonium
 

Denofearth69

Active Member
Here is a simple way to isolate ergot mold. Did it once, but the instructions I had warned that the unadulterated ergot mold is so extremely potent that a drop the size of a marijuana seed could get 22 people high, so I chickened out when it came time to try it.

Take a loaf of black rye bread, and leaving it in the bag stuff bag and all into a plastic pitcher large enough to hold it. Get horse vitamins from feed store, and dissolve entire bottle in enough water to thoroughly soak your bread. Open the bag, pour vitamin water mixture into pitcher, let soak for about 15 minutes, and pour off excess water. Reseal the bag, place in a dark cool area, and leave it alone until you have a brick of mold instead of loaf of bread. It is my understanding that the vitamin mixture helps encourage ergot mold, while keeping other molds to a minimum.

Now, here comes the tricky part. remove your bread from pitcher, cut bag open, and spread nasty ass material on a sheet pan. Under a black light, the ergot mold will distinguish itself from other molds because it looks like thin threads of glowing purple amongst the other molds. using tweezers pick out the threads ( very time consuming ).

There you have it, but as I said, I chickened out at that point and just threw the whole thing away. Don't know if it worked, but the experiment did have the ultimate conclusion I was told to expect.

Oh, I should also warn that consuming raw ergot has some pretty serious health consequences associated with it as well.
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Personally.. it is a lot easier to extract ergotamine from a pill than it is to grow, extract, and culture ergot and then turn it into ergotamine.
 

ganjaluvr

Well-Known Member
find a foreign pharmacy, buy Cafergot, separate the caffeine from the ergotamine. Once you do that, post here.
as for the extraction of caffine --

http://www.chem.ucalgary.ca/courses/...351expt03.html
http://departments.oxy.edu/tops/Caffeine/CAFFEINE-T.pdf

you can also soak the pills in water and then pass them through activated charcoal (this is what is done to decaffinate coffie) i dont know if this will work though because the Ergotamine tartrate may also be water souluble and then you would lose it aswell as the caffine

see-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decaffe..._water_process

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decaffe...#Direct_method

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decaffe...ndirect_method


I know all this is a hell of alot to do but the yeilds are so high that only 2 or 3 LSD labs were running to supply for the whole 60's! in the end you will have enough LSD to sell and make like 7 times what you spent.
 

ultimate buds

Well-Known Member
so no one knows how to do shake an bake meth ??????
if thats true then forget tryin to make l,s,d as it,s loads harder
 

Syke1

Active Member
Here is a simple way to isolate ergot mold. Did it once, but the instructions I had warned that the unadulterated ergot mold is so extremely potent that a drop the size of a marijuana seed could get 22 people high, so I chickened out when it came time to try it.

Take a loaf of black rye bread, and leaving it in the bag stuff bag and all into a plastic pitcher large enough to hold it. Get horse vitamins from feed store, and dissolve entire bottle in enough water to thoroughly soak your bread. Open the bag, pour vitamin water mixture into pitcher, let soak for about 15 minutes, and pour off excess water. Reseal the bag, place in a dark cool area, and leave it alone until you have a brick of mold instead of loaf of bread. It is my understanding that the vitamin mixture helps encourage ergot mold, while keeping other molds to a minimum.

Now, here comes the tricky part. remove your bread from pitcher, cut bag open, and spread nasty ass material on a sheet pan. Under a black light, the ergot mold will distinguish itself from other molds because it looks like thin threads of glowing purple amongst the other molds. using tweezers pick out the threads ( very time consuming ).

There you have it, but as I said, I chickened out at that point and just threw the whole thing away. Don't know if it worked, but the experiment did have the ultimate conclusion I was told to expect.

Oh, I should also warn that consuming raw ergot has some pretty serious health consequences associated with it as well.
Im not to proud to admit it but before I had the internet at my fingertips( i was like 16-17) I knew just enough about LSD that it came from ergot, so in true adolescent style i bought 5 pounds of winter rye, soaked it,and let sit in a tubberware in a dark place. It grew a mold that looked like cotton cobbwebbs with big blue/purple bean looking things in there. I think it was ergot, ummm yeah...i ate one of those purple/blue things too..lol nothing happened...please dont flame me, i was young and dumb then.
 

Smotz

Active Member
If only lsd was easy... :(
Nothing that is really worth doing is ever gonna be easy bro. I wish it were a little easier to manufacture though, so that more people in the world would get to experience this life/mind altering substance, at least once in their lives. Oh well, like Dr.Leary so many decades ago before he got started, for now I can only dream of what could be in a world filled with LSD.:peace:


Im not to proud to admit it but before I had the internet at my fingertips( i was like 16-17) I knew just enough about LSD that it came from ergot, so in true adolescent style i bought 5 pounds of winter rye, soaked it,and let sit in a tubberware in a dark place. It grew a mold that looked like cotton cobbwebbs with big blue/purple bean looking things in there. I think it was ergot, ummm yeah...i ate one of those purple/blue things too..lol nothing happened...please dont flame me, i was young and dumb then.
:lol: Nice Story.
 
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