Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

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cruzer101

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I get all my readings right before I log in the journal.
So its the temp of the canopy in the cabinet. I try to keep the thermostat out of the direct light, then its usually lights on for a couple hours and thats the temp I record. I have my min/max readings I check once in a while, like when its been cold but I dont post them. There night temps are actually pretty close to the ambiant room temp. 65 to 70° durring the day.

Man, I just busted out some of that last PK grow. Its been curing for a month or so and man does this taste great! Nice stone too.

LOL thats my smoke report, good shit man.
 
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Mr. Mojo Risin'

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Hey Cruz. I am in the middle of a, dual tote, ebb and flow, floro growbox, build. It started to be a quick and dirty project that has turned very expensive. I don't know if you have any ebb and flow experience but I am wondering if I can get away with a fifteen minute on cycle timer. The tub floods in 3 but would just overflow after that. Any ideas would be appreciated.
 
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DenseBuds said:
Cool, thanks
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No Problem bud.

Copycat said:
just figured out what rep is... so its about time I + Rep since I've read all your journals.
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You read all of them? Dam!
Must have taken you a while, I hope they were of some help to you.

Mr. Mojo Risin' said:
Hey Cruz. I am in the middle of a, dual tote, ebb and flow, floro growbox, build. It started to be a quick and dirty project that has turned very expensive. I don't know if you have any ebb and flow experience but I am wondering if I can get away with a fifteen minute on cycle timer. The tub floods in 3 but would just overflow after that. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Yes, I do have a bit of experence with ebb an flow. In my opinion the best way to water with that is twice to three times a day. Timer on just long enough to fill the tub to the bottom of the cubes. All in hydroton of course. I watered plants 24/7 and once a day. They seem to do better when given a chance to dry up some.

You got a cheap 15 min timer? That will work fine. start at once a day, right before the lights go on and as they get bigger water again in six hours. A longer time to soak dosent do a bit of good.

My opinion.

cutman said:
hey dude check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTr2Oe6YVAI&feature=fvw
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Thanks man, It started cool but then when he started rapping I stopped it.
Im not into rap. More of a classic rock fan.
 
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cutman

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me too i just though is was cool singing about smoking. hey that was an old rock song, just the words were changed. hey i grew up in the late 60, early 70, back when the hash was real, and we bought 4 finger lids, not oz's.For 10 dallors. im all about classic rock bro.
 
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cruzer101

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Temps 76 °
Humidity 50%
PPMs 960 PH 5.9

PPMs are a little higher than usual and they havent gone down with the water level so I think they are tapped out at 800 ppm. They are just starting week 6 of flower, one more week at 800 than I will start to cool them down.




Buds are filling out,







Floro cab is a couple weeks behind, just took longer this round. Probably cause the res is in that cab. I open it more.




Both cabs in flower. Nice.




So far no problems with mildew in the large cab, Im seeing some in the floro cab and so far I have treated it twice.​
 
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cruzer101

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Thanks Doe, I hope so too but I am having my doubts about the floro cab. I hit it twice already and the shit is back. Now they are budding. The last grow I treated while budding the buds didn't turn out that good. Not sure what to do.

Ya know, they say that powdery mildew is everywhere and it just takes the right conditions to set it off. But I grew for a year without it. Just once I brought a couple clones into the area (green crack) and now I get it all the time. I will probably just get all the green out of here during the summer. Maybe that will do it.
 
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riddleme

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cruzer101 said:
Thanks Doe, I hope so too but I am having my doubts about the floro cab. I hit it twice already and the shit is back. Now they are budding. The last grow I treated while budding the buds didn't turn out that good. Not sure what to do.

Ya know, they say that powdery mildew is everywhere and it just takes the right conditions to set it off. But I grew for a year without it. Just once I brought a couple clones into the area (green crack) and now I get it all the time. I will probably just get all the green out of here during the summer. Maybe that will do it.
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Hey Cruzer

Have you tried milk???

Less than 3 years ago, researchers in South America discovered a new alternative to controlling powdery mildew. Wagner Bettiol, a scientist from Brazil, found that weekly sprays of milk controlled powdery mildew in zucchini just as effectively as synthetic fungicides such as fenarimol or benomyl. Not only was milk found to be effective at controlling the disease, it also acted as a foliar fertilizer, boosting the plant's immune system.

Powdery mildew in the cucurbit family is caused by the organism Sphaerotheca fuliginea. It is a serious disease that occurs worldwide. For decades, organic gardeners had to rely on making a spray from baking soda to control the disease. Now, instead of measuring out the baking soda and combining it with a surfactant (a "sticking" substance) of either oil or soap, gardeners need only head for their refrigerators.

In his experiments with zucchini plants, Bettiol found that a weekly spray of milk at a concentration of at least 10% (1 part milk to 9 parts water) significantly reduced the severity of powdery mildew infection on the plants by 90%. While some gardeners may be tempted to increase the concentration of milk for more control, Bettiol found that once concentrations rose above 30%, an innoccuous fungus began to grow on the plants.

How does milk control powdery mildew?

Scientist aren't 100% sure how milk works to control this disease. It seems that milk is a natural germicide. In addition, it contains several naturally occurring salts and amino acids that are taken up by the plant. From previous experiments using sodium bicarbonate, potassium phosphate, and other salts, researchers have found that the disease is sensitive to these salts. It is possible then, that milk boosts the plant's immune system to prevent the disease.

Milk used around the world

The benefits of using milk to control powdery mildew haven't been isolated to Brazil. Melon growers in New Zealand are saving thousands of dollars every year by spraying their crops with milk instead of synthetic fungicides. The melon growers in New Zealand have been so successful that the wine industry is taking notice and beginning experiments using milk to control powdery mildew in grapes.

What kind of milk should be used?

In Bettiol's original experiment, fresh milk was used, straight from the cow. However, this is obviously not feasible to most home gardeners. The research work in New Zealand actually found that using skim milk was just as effective. Not only was it cheaper, but the fact that the milk had no fat content meant that there was less chance of any odours.
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Shouldn't hurt your buds
 
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cruzer101

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Got milk huh?
Interesting article.
My problem is the cab. well the screen doesn't help any either, I cant see it all and it comes back.

I dont know, Thanks though.
 
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DoeEyed

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cruzer101 said:
Thanks Doe, I hope so too but I am having my doubts about the floro cab. I hit it twice already and the shit is back. Now they are budding. The last grow I treated while budding the buds didn't turn out that good. Not sure what to do.

Ya know, they say that powdery mildew is everywhere and it just takes the right conditions to set it off. But I grew for a year without it. Just once I brought a couple clones into the area (green crack) and now I get it all the time. I will probably just get all the green out of here during the summer. Maybe that will do it.
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Hmmm - my best guess, you're missing a bit when you treat - I bet it only takes one or two tiny spores, to get it started all over again. What a headache!
 
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cruzer101

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It sure is, Now that I got the greenhouse I will probably change this setup.
After this batch I will clean it up real good then the small cab will be like my nursery.

On another note I looked close for mildew on the large cab and I found some but thats not all I found.
I got Spider mites again. The infestation looks to be just starting so I shot them with Safer’s last night and today I’m off to get some ladybugs. I haven’t tried them before cause I figure they will fly out when I open the doors but what the hell. I will keep the doors closed for a couple days.
 
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cruzer101

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I just got back from OSH. I got these for $7.49 I dont know how many there is but its a lot.




I took the top off and set them on the screen next to a branch.




Breakfast is served ladies!




What ever is left in there when the lights go on tonight I will bring out to my greenhouse.
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cruzer101

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Ha! Not all of them did.
I seen about 10 or 15 of them outside the cab already today.
A lot of them were dead too. Not enough to put the rest in the greenhouse. I doubt this is gonna be the answer but it was fun to let them go.

I figure I will give it a couple days and look for them. If I dont see them eating the mites next step is to bomb the cab I guess. I dont like the smell of neem oil, safers really is a joke after you use it a few times, pest strips make me sick so a pyrethrum bomb is what I will do.
 
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