here we go with the jew hating
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abe23
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Yes, because as soon as you try to do anything different some hysterical right-wing dummy like the OP (who I am willing to wager is a gentile, by the way...) will come along and accuse you of being anti-semitic. Jeff....newsflash. Not all jews (or israelis for that matter) think that bludgeoning the palestinians and cordoning off their land for settlements with underwriting from uncle sam is necessarily the best way to go about establishing a secure homeland for the jewish people...
CrackerJax
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Obama has shown his foreign policy pattern. Backhand ur allies, cozy up to ur enemies.
Yah...that'll work.
Yah...that'll work.
abe23
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Right unlike our previous foreign policy which was shit all over your allies when they don't want to join your preemptive war and make sure that your enemies have all the support and fresh recruits they need. That worked so damn well for eight years. I have no idea why idea why americans thought it was time for a change.
RickWhite
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Most Israelis feel that the Obama administration is the most unfriendly in history and that they have betrayed Israel.
99% of the criticism of Israel does come from Anti-Semitism whether people know it or not. What else do you call it when people with less that zero knowledge of mid-East politics spout off about the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians based on uninformed assumptions. The fact that these people automatically latch onto every bit of Arab propaganda without so much as a single doubt demonstrates that they are in fact anti-Semites. Otherwise, they would take 5 minutes to learn the facts.
Does anyone here remember when Israel unilaterally pulled out of Gaza? What happened? Did the Palestinians begin building an infrastructure? There are literally tomes of information available that debunks the Arab lies and exposes the fact that the only thing these people really want is the eradication of the Jewish state and the subjugation or death of the Jews that live there.
The fact is, the Arabs do not want peace and they could care less about the land. Their only interest in this land is in depriving the infidel from owning it. Their religion requires them to subjugate the infidel - Israel merely has the misfortune of being in close proximity and is therefore a salient target.
With the easy availability of the real facts, it is reasonable to say that people commenting on Israeli treatment of Palestinians are either just trying to have the PC opinion or they are an anti-Semite. It's pretty cut and dry.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths2/cover.html
99% of the criticism of Israel does come from Anti-Semitism whether people know it or not. What else do you call it when people with less that zero knowledge of mid-East politics spout off about the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians based on uninformed assumptions. The fact that these people automatically latch onto every bit of Arab propaganda without so much as a single doubt demonstrates that they are in fact anti-Semites. Otherwise, they would take 5 minutes to learn the facts.
Does anyone here remember when Israel unilaterally pulled out of Gaza? What happened? Did the Palestinians begin building an infrastructure? There are literally tomes of information available that debunks the Arab lies and exposes the fact that the only thing these people really want is the eradication of the Jewish state and the subjugation or death of the Jews that live there.
The fact is, the Arabs do not want peace and they could care less about the land. Their only interest in this land is in depriving the infidel from owning it. Their religion requires them to subjugate the infidel - Israel merely has the misfortune of being in close proximity and is therefore a salient target.
With the easy availability of the real facts, it is reasonable to say that people commenting on Israeli treatment of Palestinians are either just trying to have the PC opinion or they are an anti-Semite. It's pretty cut and dry.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths2/cover.html
CrackerJax
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Get some better weed.
Pretty sure there was plenty of coalition forces in Iraq. The war was not preemptive at all. You don't know your history....again. Desert Storm's cease fire clearly gave us legal rights to take Saddam out.
Patrick Bateman
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I'd like to see where you got that 99% statistic from
The point is, people are not inherently violent
When people are pushed to extremes, they become violent
The claims that Arabs do not want peace is without basis
In this case I blame religion
In the Old Testament Israel is promised to the Jews but as you say Muslims use the Qur'an to justify violence against other religious groups
RickWhite
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That's just an ignorant statement. People are most certainly inherently violent. The clam that Arabs do not want peace is fact and entire books have been written on the subject.
Read the link I provided. And stop making up your own facts. The one thing I agree with is that Islam is definitely a factor in Muslim hatred of the Jews. Read some of the works of Bernard Lewis.
PVS
Active Member
books have been written supporting eugenics too. seriously what the fuck point are you trying to make? "other people share my opinion so its fact"?
CrackerJax
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Meanwhile...back in Syria... 300 ballistic missiles have been supplied to Iran controlled Hezbollah. Missiles for 
What is wrong with Israel!!!! They are paranoid!!
You are all a bit naive.
What is wrong with Israel!!!! They are paranoid!!
You are all a bit naive.
Patrick Bateman
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Are you a Zionist?
The claim that Arabs do not want peace is an opinion, not a fact
Do you sincerely believe a people wants to keep losing its sons and daughters?
I'm sure Arabs living in that region could make the argument that Jews do not want peace, its all a matter of perspective and writing a book about it does not make it fact
Mein Kampf?
I did click the link, I recognize its validity though it does have limited scope
I think if you did some clicking around you probably wouldn't find too much info about the massacre at Dair Yassin, etc.
Violence on the part of both sides is violence
Just because this land is promised to the Jews in a book does not make it so
RickWhite
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ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This last statement proves that you know nothing of the middle East. In Islam, becoming a martyr in a holy war is the highest honor in life and one is rewarded with 72 virgins in heaven. Months before a boy is to go on a suicide mission, the entire family has a special place of honor in the community - they are all treated like Royalty.
Here is one video from memritv.org. I'd take some time to watch a few of these and educate your self before you speak. Not everyone thinks like we do here in the US.
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2428.htm
CrackerJax
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Since it is the Arabs who fire missiles into israel....at civilians... it's not very difficult to realize which side does not want peace.
Iran, Syria, Hezbollah ....all connected....all subverting the peace.
Iran developing a nuke is the tipping point..... the intent is quite clear.
Iran supplies and directs....Syria stockpiles and delivers and Hezbollah fires the arsenal.
It's plain for all to see.
Iran, Syria, Hezbollah ....all connected....all subverting the peace.
Iran developing a nuke is the tipping point..... the intent is quite clear.
Iran supplies and directs....Syria stockpiles and delivers and Hezbollah fires the arsenal.
It's plain for all to see.
tinyTURTLE
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I have nothing against the Jews.
At the same time: FUCK ISRAEL.
again for the ceap seats: Jews = OK.
Israel = bad.
At the same time: FUCK ISRAEL.
again for the ceap seats: Jews = OK.
Israel = bad.
CrackerJax
New Member
Because....? they have a home now? They keep getting attacked? They live in a constant state of alertness and fear?
Imagine what sort of life you would have if you lived in NJ and without warning NY just sends in missiles and suicide bombers into ur neighborhood. For 30 years.....
Israel is the victim...no one else.
Imagine what sort of life you would have if you lived in NJ and without warning NY just sends in missiles and suicide bombers into ur neighborhood. For 30 years.....
Israel is the victim...no one else.
patlpp
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Presidential debate where Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama were asked "If Israel were attacked by Iran with a nuclear device, would you support and assist Israel?" Hillary: "Absolutely, 110%, without hesitation."
Barrack: "I would consider it".
You voted this in. He didn't hide a thing.
Barrack: "I would consider it".
You voted this in. He didn't hide a thing.
CrackerJax
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The irony is American Jews voted for Obama in a major way. They sure won't be doing that again. They won't vote Republican though, but they will simply stay home on election day. They realize now, they have been sold out.
Patrick Bateman
Active Member
When I asked if you were a Zionist I didn't mean it in an accusatory way
No I'm not an Arab
As I said religion is to blame, I will say it once again
Because you are promised land in an ancient book does not make it so
Are you familiar with self fulfilling prophecy?
Equally ridiculous is believing you will go to heaven and have 72 virgins for killing someone of a different faith
Islam and Christianity have obviously fostered the most radical behaviour of all religions, however the Jewish settler movement is a perfect example of modern day segregation
Your unconditional support for Israel is obvious as you are not actually addressing any of my points and are simply copy and pasting links from pro-Israel websites
There are two sides to every story, neither side is innocent by any means
Israel has every right to be on high alert in such a volatile region, however with the 6th largest nuclear arsenal in the world, they are a superpower
You need to read up on some of the atrocities committed by Israeli forces
Massacre at Deir Yassin
Al-Dawayima massacre
Lydda
Again atrocities committed by both sides on the basis of religious war
Absolute insanity
you're wrong.
islam tells you that you will receive 72 virgins if you die a martyr, but it doesn't tell anybody to commit suicide to get it.
in fact, it condemns suicide as a guarantee to eternal damnation, just like christianinty
and if you're ignorant ass didn't know.
both religions are Abrahamic religions, eg. Abraham appears as the father in both bibles. so when you look at it, Arabs and Christians are brothers, in religion, and ultimately in blood.
Israel is the has become the most belligerent nation in the Middle East since Netanyahu.
I love how you condemn the US for not supporting every little thing Israel does, but when the US asks them to halt expansion of settlements temporarily so that some issues may be resolved, Israel spits in the eye of the US and does whatever the fuck it wants anyways.
Cooperation goes both ways. Israel has no intent to cooperate with anybody but Israel, you can see it in the way she has conducted herself recently.
Israel doesn't respect or care about the US, it only cares about american weapons, and the american army if they get into trouble.
other than that.... they wipe their ass with american flags for the fun of it....
OPEN YOUR EYES. ISRAEL IS NOT A FRIEND OF THE U.S.A. It's just part of the relationship for convenience, and even then Israel does not pull her share of the weight....