Matanuska Tundra

[Dr. VonDank]

I want to know why no one has used that chemical to produce fem seeds. I would imagine there are hundreds of people with the strain in alaska

I notice no seeds banks carry brothers grimm and their website is terrible. No offense but personally I would be cautious of them.

Brothers Grimm was not a seedbank, they closed their doors years ago befor the medical green rush, they were topnotch breeders back in the day and produced some amazing strains. I don't know what "chemical" you are talking about. Think you might have lumped the wrong threads together. the Original ATF mother was lost years ago and only watered down hybrid versions of it are now availible. Even the Brothers Grimm MTF is only 50%...

 

[hamanu23]

Brothers Grimm was not a seedbank, they closed their doors years ago befor the medical green rush, they were topnotch breeders back in the day and produced some amazing strains. I don't know what "chemical" you are talking about. Think you might have lumped the wrong threads together. the Original ATF mother was lost years ago and only watered down hybrid versions of it are now availible. Even the Brothers Grimm MTF is only 50%...

I have read that 100% MTF clones still exist today in Alaska. May I ask where you get your information?
I think the chemical to make feminized seeds is called Colloidal Silver.
What I had said was I am suprised that no one had created 100% feminized seeds using Colloidal Silver from a MTF mother in alaska and provided it to a seed bank.

 

[Dr. VonDank]

MT clones and seeds do exist as you found out-----MT is not ATF. The ATF was a clone only strain that was lost many years ago. Most fem tecn's and methods came years after. Alot of dispensaries/clubs claim they have ATF----not true-- they have the may have the MT you are reffering to. I and many others have tried different versions of the MT from SAGS and it's not even close to the original ATF.(i'm not saying its better or worse----just not the original ATF)

 

[hamanu23]

MT clones and seeds do exist as you found out-----MT is not ATF. The ATF was a clone only strain that was lost many years ago. Most fem tecn's and methods came years after. Alot of dispensaries/clubs claim they have ATF----not true-- they have the may have the MT you are reffering to. I and many others have tried different versions of the MT from SAGS and it's not even close to the original ATF.(i'm not saying its better or worse----just not the original ATF)

No offense but you are mistaken, the original name for this plant is Matanuska Thunderfuck because it was clone only and belonged to a person who lived in the matanuska valley started in like 81 or near to it. He also grew it outdoors and it does not get its true levels of thc until after the first frost.
I believe I have done more research on this matter than you and I have actually been in the presence of a 100% MTF plant once in my life

You have your facts wrong sir, they changed the name to Alaska thunderfuck because the people in the lower 48 started to hear about it and it was a more user friendly name.

MTF the original plant is gone but pure 100% clones exist in alaska.

 

[MatanuskaValley]

MT clones and seeds do exist as you found out-----MT is not ATF. The ATF was a clone only strain that was lost many years ago. Most fem tecn's and methods came years after. Alot of dispensaries/clubs claim they have ATF----not true-- they have the may have the MT you are reffering to. I and many others have tried different versions of the MT from SAGS and it's not even close to the original ATF.(i'm not saying its better or worse----just not the original ATF)

The original name of the plant is Matanuska Thunderfuck.

I like your signature hamanu23, from what I have learned what you are saying is correct.

 

[Dr. VonDank]

No offense taken-------We can just agree to disagree. I have original MT from Brother Grimm in veg as I type this post. (LOL)

 

[hamanu23]

No offense taken-------We can just agree to disagree. I have original MT from Brother Grimm in veg as I type this post. (LOL)

Just for info sakes I emailed Sagarmatha seeds and asked what the lineage from their tundra was and this was their response.

those beans were given to me by some folks growing thunderfuck up north. they said it was one of six types from the matanuska region. hope it brings back memories.

peace

One of six types, sounds like they got the seeds from someone that was full of shit, what do you think Dr.?

Have you tried sagarmatha and brothers grimm yet? how are the smokes?

 

[Dr. VonDank]

I have not grown sags personally but I have tried it from various growers and it is not from the original ATF or MT. The Grimms has the taste and smell but is different in the high. I would say that the Grimm's is not as strong but the sensi Shiva skunk ads a little bottom end punch compared to true ATF. It does bring back some great memories shared with friends. We used to make it a yearly deal to meet up with friends for crab festival.

 

[hamanu23]

I have not grown sags personally but I have tried it from various growers and it is not from the original ATF or MT. The Grimms has the taste and smell but is different in the high. I would say that the Grimm's is not as strong but the sensi Shiva skunk ads a little bottom end punch compared to true ATF. It does bring back some great memories shared with friends. We used to make it a yearly deal to meet up with friends for crab festival.

I spent ten years in Alaska and I have never had weed that I enjoyed as much as MTF. Rock hard dense nugs and super dark. Its like the headiest sative high you ever had crossed along with the craziest couchlock body stone you have ever had all rolled in to one. And one hit does it but everyone takes more because it takes like 3-5 minutes to kick in.

Thing about smoking the real MTF is you always get just a little too high hehe.

If its anything different than this it probably isn't the real deal.
I know of a guy in Fairbanks is still growing this strain. His dad grew it for like thirty years and he is growing it also and won't share the strain with anyone. He sells the weed though it goes all over Alaska.

 

[hamanu23]

There are two very different pheno's of the matanuska you get from the non fem seeds. This is pictures from the common pheno, 5/7 were like this.

2/7 however have the tightest node structure I have ever seen and it smells like baby shit. It is only 11 days in to flower and I will update pics on the rare pheno a little later.

Both are very very frosty and grow very well.

 

[greenjacketdude]

I am good friends with the owners of a club in so cal. He works on crabbing boats. Well long story short he brought back a few clones made a mother an Heres my ATF 2 weeks into flower It may not be the real thing but well just have to see if the hairs change color an so on.

 

[HarryNugz]

A friend grew these Grimm MT's and are at 7 weeks.

 

[hamanu23]

A friend grew these Grimm MT's and are at 7 weeks.

Do you know what that smells like?

 

[Austinmac]

just got some matanuska tundra clones...i live up in canada

 

[rmor1551]

I know this is an old thread, but on page 2 Mogie quoted a description of a phenotype that has variegated leaves. I just picked up that clone and the variegation is very obvious. Got it from a cloner in San Fran. The person said it was 100% sativa. It looks funny with the leaves being mostly normal but some of them have light lime green stunted growth as opposed to the normal dark green large growth in the rest of the plant. Causes some of the leaves to twist and contort a little. I use to have a Salmon Creek Big Bud that did this. Didn't at all affect yield though. Thanks for any input!

 

[couchlock907]

dr greenthumb has MTF 200 bucks and heck canada and ak are next door ? who knows he really might have the real deal talkeetna was the last place i heard clones but you gotta know somebody

 

[LT1RX7 Drifter]

atf is still around even has a new spin off called mudpie delight grower out of petersburg also my boss at the time grows it

 

[crazedtimmy]

I have some here and it has big bubble leafs, they are like a fatter thicker finger, i will upload picks so we can correctly mark this strain, ffd(faded) had the right strain

 

[ubermench]

ata tundra,seedsman has for$26 for10 seeds through the attitude.they are alaskan thunderfuck x kazakhstan . its 100% indica,it does well here in florida,but only in the spring(i start my plants for 30 days indoors at 20 hours per day light,then i put them outside in the ground(in potting soil)and they go to bud right away!its about 20%thc and about an ounce per plant.but grown in the fall it yeilds only 1 gram per plant.

 

[Snickerdoodle]

Here's my Matanuska Thunder Fuck

top view

side view

Got her from another patient. Haven't had the chance to ask if she knows where it came from yet so I have no idea if it's the real deal. Keep in mind she's been seriously low stress trained, leaves trimmed and also fim'd. She'd probably be somewhere around 4 or 5 ft had we not trained her to grow small