undertheice
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china's imperialistic ambitions have always been mostly regional.
160,000 + new jobs
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Anjinsan
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True. It's just that when I think of Imperialistic...I think of THE Imperialistic nation/s. England. Japan and Germany had similar plans. Hell add Spain to that list. America is funny in that it regularly goes through all the negative aspects of imperialism (war and the costs of influence via war and economic control) but never gains any of the benefits. (land) Strange nation we are.
China is smarter than us in that regard. Their reach never exceeds their grasp. Our regularly does.
rocksteady6
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Firstly actually read what i wrote. I agreed with your first part. Sadly if China wanted to fuck up America, Australia and anyone else they could. Their government works very effieciently but in a way we are not used to. For someone to criticise how another government operates and actually give no concrete facts as to why, shows a lack of true reasoning. Do you have any idea of the latest statistics regarding military size? It seems not. Maybe hit google for a little and get back to me. I am getting bored of this thread. I meant no malice to the American people and like i stated long before we as Australians are very appreciative of the support that you have shown us in the past and we will continue to return that support in the best way we can.
rocksteady6
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Is this some form of comedy? If you cant see what is happening then no individual from other coutries can be expected to. The Iraq war..... Get a grip on reality.
Anjinsan
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You just do not wish to admit that you typed Chinese instead of Japanese. I do not fear China militarily. America is battle hardened and well versed in many types of combat. China is not. Our land is VERY far away from theirs. WE'd get reports from Taiwan within seconds of a Chinese battle fleet leaving port. In the week that it'd take a Chinese battle fleet to get to American waters...they'd meet a massive force. Maybe if Russia allowed them to cross Russia to get to Alaska...they could cut the time in half...but it'd be known by us a very long time before it happened.
I spent 4 months in Taiwan. I was there when the Chinese conducted military games in the straits of Taiwan. America had a battle fleet in between Taiwan and Chinese games within 36 hours. We have fleets EVERYWHERE. The Chinese do not. You need to google air and naval power. We have it in spades. The Chinese merely have millions upon millions of barely trained cannon fodder land troops. Our military works the very best against such a force. Much better than street to street fighting against disguised "civilians". Get a mass of invaders in front of our generals...watch a blood bath.
rocksteady6
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I am not going to lower myself to this level. Enjoy your computer games. Sounds like that is where you have been educated. And no i meant to type CHINESE. Most people with a brain and could have understood the discussion that was taking place would have understood that.
Antidisestablishmentarian
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Japan did face war crime trials.
Just an FYI
http://www.historynet.com/japanese-war-crime-trials.htm
Just an FYI
http://www.historynet.com/japanese-war-crime-trials.htm
Anjinsan
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From "Battle For Australia"
http://www.battleforaustralia.org/
On 7 December 1941, the Japanese launched a devastating surprise attack on the United States Pacific Fleet at its Pearl Harbor base in Hawaii. The attack was not preceded by a declaration of war, and took place while Japanese diplomats were in Washington discussing American concerns about continuing Japanese military aggression in East Asia. These diplomatic discussions were intended by the Japanese to distract the attention of Americans while Japan secretly positioned a powerful aircraft carrier striking force off the Hawaiian islands.
While the Japanese Imperial Navy was striking at Pearl Harbor, Japanese troops were invading British Malaya and being resisted by British, Australian and Indian forces. On 23 January 1942, Japanese troops landed at Rabaul in the Australian Territory of New Guinea and overwhelmed the heavily outnumbered Australian garrison. When Singapore fell to the Japanese on 15 February 1942, the British government was not prepared to assist Australia to resist a Japanese invasion, preferring instead to allocate all available British and Australian military resources to the defence of India.
Having been abandoned by Britain to a likely Japanese invasion, Australia turned to the United States for help, and it was generously given. Thereafter, the Americans, the Australians, and the Dutch fought together as allies to stem, and ultimately repel the Japanese military onslaught in the South-West Pacific.
This web-site is one of two linked web-sites that trace the history of Japanese military aggression in the Pacific War. At the Battle for Australia and Pacific War web-sites, the viewer is taken from Pearl Harbor to the great naval Battle of Midway in the central Pacific which destroyed Japan's naval supremacy over the United States Pacific Fleet and put an end to Japan's capacity to invade Australia. The viewer will then be taken to the Kokoda and Guadalcanal Campaigns that brought Japanese military aggression to a halt in the South-West Pacific, and forced Japan on the defensive.
This internet web-site is dedicated to the courageous Australians who resisted, and ultimately repulsed the Japanese military attack on their country in 1942-43. It is also intended to honour the Americans and the Dutch who gave their lives and their service in the defence of Australia in 1942-43.
Seriously...find me a link that shows that America saved you from China.
undertheice
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haven't we taken this thread far enough off topic already?
Anjinsan
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You are right. It's just that Americans get so much crap for not knowing history...haven't we taken this thread far enough off topic already?
Back OT: The jobs are not there. 1/2 of the spurt is very temporary census jobs...the rest I'd chalk up to fuzzy math. Another point our Aussie friend made awhile ago I'll tackle now as it is on topic. He said that any American that wanted a job could get one but that we felt we were too good for some jobs.
There are 17,000,000 Americans out of work. Those are pretty accurate numbers by putting together a multitude of reports/estimates. The entire population of Australia...every man, woman and child is 21 million. So I disagree with there is a job for every American. Another very reputable source had the figures at 6 Americans applying for every 1 opening. It does not discriminate as to "good" jobs vs "crappy" jobs...it flat out says that for ANY job opening today there are 6 Americans that want it.
This is in large part due to trade imbalances. We do not heavily tax imports...our exports ARE heavily taxed. It is also due to companies off-shoring our jobs. This too can be regulated through aggressive import taxation. Simply state that any company that utilizes "x" number of off-shore employees is considered a foreign importer (the goods are made elsewhere and shipped here) and as such are subject to a 30% tax tariff.
We CAN make progress on our problems...but I hear NO politicians with any real power stating the obvious.
rocksteady6
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I agree that this got way off topic. I apologise for my part in that. Just to clear up what i was intending to say is that without the alliance that we have with the US i think we may have been invaded by now by the Chinese. I am fully aware of the past invasions by the Japanese. Anyway hope you all had a good Easter.
Private-sector report shows thousands of jobs lost in March
Private-sector employers shed 23,000 jobs in March, surprising economists who expected job growth last month and raising doubts that Friday's government report on March unemployment will be as positive as hoped.
Forecasters expected the private sector to add 40,000 jobs last month. But the ADP Employer Services report, released on Wednesday, said otherwise, underlining the shaky nature of the economic recovery.
Big losers in the ADP report were the construction industry, which lost 43,000 jobs in March, and factories, which shed 9,000 jobs. On the plus side, service providers added 28,000 workers last month.
The ADP number does not always correlate to the government's unemployment figures. However, because ADP counts only private-sector employment, not government jobs, it may show a clearer picture of the state of U.S. joblessness. Friday's government report will be inflated by as many as 100,000 new temporary jobs -- workers hired for this year's census. Throughout the course of this year, the Commerce Department expects to hire more than 600,000 census workers, whose jobs will end when the survey does.
FlyLikeAnEagle
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Today's monthly employment report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics offers encouraging signs that the labor market has stabilized, private sector hiring is picking up, and our nation has started down the road to recovery. While the jobs report doesn't merit high-fives or fits of bragging, it's quite a bit better than what we've been handed each month over the past two years.
The economy added 123,000 private sector jobs in March, the most since May 2007. Overall, the economy added 162,000 jobs, including 48,000 Census positions. Census hiring accounted for less than one third of the new jobs while private sector hiring made up over two thirds of the employment gains.
During the first quarter, we had an average monthly gain of 54,000 jobs, compared to an average monthly job loss of 753,000 in the first quarter of 2009. This may not be success, but it is definitely progress.
Again this month, we see bright spots in manufacturing, which after losing jobs for three straight years, has now gained jobs three months in a row, and in the temporary help sector, which added another 40,000 jobs and 313,000 positions since September. The construction sector, which has been pounded during the recession, didn't lose jobs for the first time since June 2007.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-carolyn-maloney/private-sector-job-growth_b_523249.html
Australia has always supported the USA . and the American citizens..most of us are grateful to have such friends in the world..i hope our current occupant of the white house does not shit on the aussies like he has poland. and the chec republic.
yea i agree the constitution is a joke right about now.
Go to the website( http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesbd.htm ) and in the search type "Birth Death", click the first CES birth death link. There is a table that tells you how many people the government GUESSES have started new business and hired more people. There is not 1 shred of evidence of this happening. For this report the government took liberty of guessing 81,000 jobs into existence, that combined with the 48,000 census workers hired and the extra 34,000 government gives you those numbers. Unfortunately every single government and census job is a strain on the tax payer as government cannot produce wealth. The rest of the jobs are ghosts. and ghosts don't pay taxes or provide services except poltergeist like scary ass shit.
we really lost more jobs because they no longer count the long term unemployed who have fallen off the roles.
oh and the "emergency unemployment" programs grew by 300,000 people in a few short weeks. Way to go!
ink the world
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Were any of you guys bitching 20 months ago when we were hemorrhaging jobs at a much faster rate? Seriously, were you? If you werent bitching about it then when it was much worse, and are bitching now it only shows that its nothing more than partisan sniping.
ink i doubt if you know anything about investing ...
obama was like bad news before he even got elected all the shit he was spouting about robbing this company and taking over that industry all before he got elected..
investors are FORWARD LOOKING . they position their money and investments to make themselfs the most amount of money and protect their assets from the government.
since obama has been elected(i didnt say take office) 75% of venture capital has dried up in the US thanks to obama.
already we have had more foreclosures in the first quarter of the year than all the foreclosures last year(its the economy stupid)and the proggies are worried about MORE government control while the nation suffers under a great depression .
it is apparent the schmucks in washington are more worried about lining their own pockets than the suffering of the american people
obama was like bad news before he even got elected all the shit he was spouting about robbing this company and taking over that industry all before he got elected..
investors are FORWARD LOOKING . they position their money and investments to make themselfs the most amount of money and protect their assets from the government.
since obama has been elected(i didnt say take office) 75% of venture capital has dried up in the US thanks to obama.
already we have had more foreclosures in the first quarter of the year than all the foreclosures last year(its the economy stupid)and the proggies are worried about MORE government control while the nation suffers under a great depression .
it is apparent the schmucks in washington are more worried about lining their own pockets than the suffering of the american people
Dragline
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All those SOCIALIST COMMIES!!! Who needs em!!!!! USA USA USA USA USA!!!!!!!!
I wish Australia, as well as other countries, would quit supporting and listening to our government. Our Federal governments track record in its own country isn't very good.
Why listen to a government that professes freedom yet it takes money from its citizens and in turn uses it in a wasteful and inefficient manner?
Man o' the green
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20 months ago, we weren't over a trillion or more dollars in debt from "stimulus". We didn't have a new health tax. Our budget was slightly better balanced. It wasn't clear if the tax cuts would stay in place. Carbon taxes weren't looming. Businesses hadn't been demonized by the administration.
Now the fed is now looking at sweeping powers to control banks, among many other anti-business "regulations". On top of it all, they see little justification of it, that the fed expands its powers because it can.
All of this is anti-growth. The economy wants to recover - people want to make money, but it appears that the government will continue to make it harder by placing government growth ahead of business. In addition, we've been lied to by the government so much, ( broken promises or outright misinformation ) there is a loss of trust in the predictability of the business environment.
As long as "business" believes this, there won't be investment and growth.
And 20 months ago, there was a belief that this was a typical recession and it would behave as all others have, down then up again.
The bottom line is that the policies of the executive and congress are making the situation worse, not better.