Ok.. now what?

glyphen

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There is a single word that usually ends the light arguement.

INTENSITY


No matter how many lights you put in a series, a row, a fancy checkered pattern, a reflector or any other hoopla does it generate a higher intensity of light. You get WAY better coverage with all those bulbs, but they arent as intense as most noobs think though.

Its in your eyes, its a visual effect. You naturally want to believe that its brighter because there is more, but there isnt any brighter light, there just more of the same intensity light brewing around.

The intensity of the light boils down to the ignition of the light. Lights "Burn" so to say. Flo's warm gases, not really burning them. You see it and have been told,"the lights on" your whole life so most people dont think about the nitty gritty behind how a bulb works. The light produced is a controlled "Burn" and that requires energy. More energy=higher intense burn.



Anyways, no matter how many of the same light you have running, it never changes the insides of the bulb(fillament/gasses). It isnt capable of making a more intense light, because nothing about the construction of the bulb changed.

You need more juice in the box to make a more intense light.

Thats why HID lights need ballasts. Regular 110v isnt strong enough to ignite the bulb because the goods that produce light are built so strongly to handle extreme power to burn brighter then average. With flo's Theres just more of them, but none get any stronger just because there is another one sitting next to it.


Its actually just a concentrated amount of directed light. It cannot burn you like a HID light can, even with 1,000,000,000 leds because its not intense enough.

But a single 70w HPS will burn the skin off your fingers. 70w HPS is more intense then any amount of LED lights but obviously you could get better results with an LED panel thats less intense due to greater coverage.

And that is what fuels this argument.

People think results/yeild equate to Physics, and it doesnt.


In the lighting world bigger usually means higher intensity. It does not always mean better or best, simply more powerfull.

Of course if you stick a CFL on every single bud, that bud is going to get better light then it might have coming from one source above.

BUT, that does not mean CFL's get any brighter/better with quantity.
 

MX450

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One month later this is what the plants look like today... Im still using the mixed MG 24-8-16 water soluable fert in a 5 gallon bucket and have been continually watering them every day for 5 minutes at 8am on that mix. This combo gives the plants just a little water each day and it seems to give the lil plants the combo of nutes that they need... I am nowl running 6x 3200 lumen bulbs on a 18/6 cycle. Notice in the pictures. The one plant that went to flower, died as a result of timer failure/ over watering( lesson learned). I have been to a few Hydro shops and have gotten better advice on topping / cloning my babys... let me know what you think...MX
 

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MX450

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i know you probally told us this already but i dont wanna read through the last 3 pages to find it. lol.-Are you using soil or hydro?

Soil...at first I was using a combo of different soils with some peat and Bat Guano (SP) for good measure but once the plants took root and it was time to add the nutes, I left the soil there that I used while the plants was in the 4in pots and , transfered them to 5 gallon buckets and then started feeding them the MG nutes daily... seemed to be just what the doctor ordered because as you can see, the plants are looking really pretty and growing out of control... will post pictures of them in the buckets in the am...
 

darkdestruction420

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dont water so often, cannabis roots need wet dry cycles and rootrot is a bitch. Feeding everyday and w/every watering is also a bad idea. if you want to do something like that you should just do an ebb and flow system grow.
 

Am I Norml

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dont water so often, cannabis roots need wet dry cycles and rootrot is a bitch. Feeding everyday and w/every watering is also a bad idea. if you want to do something like that you should just do an ebb and flow system grow.
if your using feeder soil (pre nuted) then only feed 1/4 strength if your going to feed every watering otherwise the plant wont be able to use it all and you will get salt buildup and root lockout...still might even with regular soil too...careful its easy to over do it...and DD is exactly right...the plant needs to have wet and dry cycles also otherwise your going to kill root mass... standard rule of thumb... water deep...not often bongsmilie
 

MX450

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All my hard work seems to be going down the toilet... this morning one of my plants looks like this at 830...suggestions?
 

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MX450

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looks like watering stress.
It might of been water stress but as it turned out, the plant that was looking all limp after I transplanted it was a MALE!!!, lookat the size if its nutz!!! I now am the proud owner of 2 Awesome Female plants as well ... Im gonna take all to bud as I have to move soon and cant risk moving in the middle of the night with my pants. Ill grow more... I love this!! The Male was at the end and the furthest from the air( no cross pollination taking place here... look at my pictures... Im so proud of myself. Thanks for all of your help!!! I wonder what strain I have as I got the seeds from my GF and she claims its a 2-hitter strain... I am still running the usual feed/water cycle and it seems to work on this particular strain....
 

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darkdestruction420

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very nice, something i like to do that most people say you dont need to do after it has been flowering a few weeks but i very carefully and closely will examine the buds to make sure none have hermied and to assess the plants health by examining the stems and leaves. just try not to touch the actual flowers themselves though, the crystals will stick to your fingers. keep us updated bro.
 

MX450

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Ok another update... this is 2 weeks later. the only thing that changed was that I cut the water back to 15 minutes per day at 8am on every other day. Look at the bud...how much longer do I need to keep them budding? MX
 

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darkdestruction420

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It's been a long time since i last saw this thread so if we already covered this im sorry, but i dont feel like reading 40+ posts again. lol. I think ive got some really bad news for you, I hope im wrong, but anyway-Your plant looks like its been pollinated and is starting to make seeds.
 

MX450

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Any idea of a strain of weed that when you hit it, leaves a cayenne pepper taste on your lips? Sounds silly but I have had this weed before but it was a few years back. Thanks MX
 
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