just purchased a 600watt hps system...need help w/ fire prevention/protection...

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sm0keyrich510

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ive searched and searched but havent been able to find what im looking for.

im looking for an automatic fire extinguisher that is supposed to be mounted on the ceiling in grow room...

if temps reach like 150 or 200 or whatever then the powdery material shoots out thus putting out the fire.

looking for a place to get these offline (that are reasonably priced if possible).

any other good ideas to PREVENT fires...not just stop them??

thank you.
 
nick88

nick88

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sm0keyrich510 said:
ive searched and searched but havent been able to find what im looking for.

im looking for an automatic fire extinguisher that is supposed to be mounted on the ceiling in grow room...

if temps reach like 150 or 200 or whatever then the powdery material shoots out thus putting out the fire.

looking for a place to get these offline (that are reasonably priced if possible).

any other good ideas to PREVENT fires...not just stop them??

thank you.
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sounds like you're talking bout a halon system. Bro they Aint cheap, I have1 in my paint booth what all are you running that you think warrants a suppression system. Just make sure all your wiring, outlets etc. Are rated for the amperage you'll be pulling and you'll be fine. With a 600 you"l want to make sure it has plenty of space and ventilation around your ballast.
 
IAm5toned

IAm5toned

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you DO NOT want a halon system in your house... asking for ALL kinds of problems.

what you need is a heat detector to run your master lighting contactor coil circuit through....

i can tell you how this is done... parts cheap too, less than 20$
 
IAm5toned

IAm5toned

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ps.... im somewhat of an expert in fire protection systems.
all kinds of licenses and certifications.
trust me when i say you do not want a halon system in your house. there too dangerous.
not for anyone but certified professionals to ever lay there hands on one...
 
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cymbaline

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One of the best preventative measures would be an AFCI circuit breaker on the breaker you will be running your operation on.
A smoke detector would be of high value as well.
With the AFCI hopefully the smoke detector wouldn't ever come into the picture if something should happen.
 
IAm5toned

IAm5toned

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an arc fault wont stop a fire untill its too late...
its the arc from a short circuit condition that causes the breaker to trip, in other words, the damage is already done when the breaker trips.
it only takes a very small spark to cause an ignition.
 
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sm0keyrich510

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well the reason i was ever curious about the "hanging fire extinguisher" (or thats what i called it haha) is because say my grow is going...no one is home...fire starts...a smoke alarm would be great but that wont stop the fire.

im not as worried about the fire starting when im home and me not knowing about it (the lighting schedule and my gf n i's sleep schedule is the same...someone is always awake when the lights are on....)

i just wanted a way to get the fire put out should it start.

right now i have a surge protector plugged in to the wall...with everything plugged into that. (which right now is probably 250watts).

my 600watter is on the way and ive never used one personally but always heard about how much more prone to fires they are compared to say led's...cfls...etc.

i just wanted to make sure that the house would be okay.

to be quite honest im not sure how good the wiring is to this point anyway. however an inspector did say they were ok. to me it just seemed a little DIY (however i have no experience in this field).

i just wanted to ensure my house will be there when i get home. haha.

im also looking into a 400w light too for the future...so yeah.


how do you guys keep yourselves feeling safe with such risks? what precautions do you take in the event there is a fire w/ no one to put it out? or do you all have to hang around home a lot?
 
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scottyboy369

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these fires you here about are from monster grows the only way a 600 watt will cause a fire is if it is faulty and the toaster you leave plugged in is the # 1 cause of fires i would worry about small appliances more than the light you ordered
 
patlpp

patlpp

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Yea, I'm all for safety too, that's why my 600 watter reflector is heavy duty, enclosed in glass, air cooled and on a GFCI. The wires are strung overhead where the light can't get to the insulation or in danger of water should there be a flood. I'm thinking maybe, just speculating here that digital ballasts might be safer too because they have excessive load detection and will shut down soft? (meaning not pop a fuse, much like a regulator or triac where it needs its power removed and re-applied to come on again)
 
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cymbaline

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IAm5toned said:
an arc fault wont stop a fire untill its too late...
its the arc from a short circuit condition that causes the breaker to trip, in other words, the damage is already done when the breaker trips.
it only takes a very small spark to cause an ignition.
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you are right about a small spark but I disagree.
An AFCI is designed to prevent fires by detecting a non-working (i.e., non-intended/non-useful) electrical arc and disconnect power before the arc starts a fire. An AFCI should, but does not always, distinguish between a working arc that may occur in the brushes of a vacuum cleaner, light switch, or other household devices and a non-working arc that can occur, for instance, in a lamp cord that has a broken conductor in the cord from overuse.

Unless your operation is producing flameable fumes one spark most likely will not cause an ignition
and the AFCI is designed to detect and stop the spark from occuring.
Also if it does spark the breaker will trip anyway and cut off the energy source.
It might be overkill but I don't really think so, I look at it as another layer in fire prevention.
 
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