Tent Cooling/Filter Questions

SickSadLittleWorld

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Putting your hoods under vacuum (pulling) is a bad idea unless they are 100% air tight. I will agree that pulling through the hood(s) may be slightly more efficient but like someone already said, your taking the chance of sucking odour contaminated air into the hood and out of your grow room for all your neighbors to smell. Whats more important to you, security or most efficient cooling?

I'm a Millwright, I maintain ventilation systems (among many other things) at a nuclear generating station. I've also installed/upgraded ventilation systems in many hospitals. The difference in a (inline) fans performance in either configuration is minimal.
Great point about odor seepage...didn't even think about that. I personally push through the hood and don't have any cooling problems. Tent stays about 5 degrees warmer than ambient. There is no right or wrong way to run the fan as long as it is pulling through the filter.
 

jfgordon1

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Does anyone have a visual?

(as a non-grower, i plan to grow in the future and this has always confused me)
 
For a tent this type of material may not be ideal because it is smooth. I think that most tents have a dimpled texture since the walls are not rigid. I have also heard that "tuff-r" foil faced foam sheathing can work well for IR detection.
Jed
Exactly what is this material called? I didn't catch the name of the material you're talking about or the name of the material the other guy was talking about either. My tent walls are actually silver tarp material. It's somewhat reflective and can withstand the temps. Wasn't planning on lining it with mylar unless I needed to, but I'm interested in learning/knowing more about this IR material for sure.
 
Look what we started friend!!! Agree to disagree? bongsmilie maybe a hit off the peace pipe?

By this time I'm sure the guy gets the point!!!

Good luck on your DIY tent 2012junkie!

jed

+rep to gnome and 2012
Jed all this thread do was confuse me even more. Pull, push, who the hell knows. I guess its more personal preference. I personally see both points. Pulling air actually makes more sense. Pushing air through flex hose, and two hoods would be harder I would think. If I can be sure to totally seal off the ducting entering and leaving the hoods and fan, which I know I can....I am going to pull the air through the hoods. Just makes more sense. I appreciate everyones comments!!!!!
 

bongmarley2009

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I have a 3 x 3 x 6 secret jardin tent with a 4" air coolable reflector. The tent itself has two ports for reflector cooling on either side of the tent. I use a 6" 435cm fan (sitting outside of the tent) to pull the ambient air from the outside of one side of the tent via ducting, through the reflector, and out the other side of the tent.

It's basically fan (outside of tent)-ducting via reflector cooling port-reflector-ducting via reflector cooling port

And I have a 4" 171cfm fan with a 4" carbon filter for exhaust, but have not needed it this time around.
 

10jed

Active Member
Jed all this thread do was confuse me even more. Pull, push, who the hell knows. I guess its more personal preference. I personally see both points. Pulling air actually makes more sense. Pushing air through flex hose, and two hoods would be harder I would think. If I can be sure to totally seal off the ducting entering and leaving the hoods and fan, which I know I can....I am going to pull the air through the hoods. Just makes more sense. I appreciate everyones comments!!!!!
Yes, but now you know that you put the carbon inside the tent and draw through it, use a passive intake to vent the tent, and then use a 2nd fan to cool the hoods by either pulling or pushing air from outside the tent to the hoods to outside the tent. That was your original question!!! We all agree on that.

To sum up gnome and mine's argument, he says that a fan is drastically more efficient pulling air and I say the difference is fairly minimal. I say that your hood ducting has a good chance of leaking air, and gnome says that the chance is very slight. Certainly the length and design of your ducting and hood as well as the power of your fan will all come into play. It won't be tough to try it both ways! Try pushing if you want the best from a security standpoint and if you can't get the hood cool to the touch, just pop the fan off and flip it. Pretty simple really. you should be able to put your hand on the hoods and not burn yourself. Cool to the touch is ideal.

Here is a link to the information about the reflective materials. For a tent mylar is probably not optimal because it is only really effective when installed smoothly according to the guy who wrote this faq. You may want to use something to block IR outside of the tent however, if you can't use it inside. Depending on where you live and where in your house the tent is located it may not even be necessary. The IR camera tapes I have seen all show the IR coming from either the box sill (the piece of wood that sits on top of the foundation and attaches to the floor joists) which in dicates a basement grow op, or through the roof which indicates attics. just research all of that before you decide what to do. Most grow ops are busted because the farmer tells people he is growing, or neighbors smell it. IR detection isn't the usual reason. Many communities don't ever even do that, and the feds aren't scouring the entire country.

Jed
 
Yes, but now you know that you put the carbon inside the tent and draw through it, use a passive intake to vent the tent, and then use a 2nd fan to cool the hoods by either pulling or pushing air from outside the tent to the hoods to outside the tent. That was your original question!!! We all agree on that.

To sum up gnome and mine's argument, he says that a fan is drastically more efficient pulling air and I say the difference is fairly minimal. I say that your hood ducting has a good chance of leaking air, and gnome says that the chance is very slight. Certainly the length and design of your ducting and hood as well as the power of your fan will all come into play. It won't be tough to try it both ways! Try pushing if you want the best from a security standpoint and if you can't get the hood cool to the touch, just pop the fan off and flip it. Pretty simple really. you should be able to put your hand on the hoods and not burn yourself. Cool to the touch is ideal.

Here is a link to the information about the reflective materials. For a tent mylar is probably not optimal because it is only really effective when installed smoothly according to the guy who wrote this faq. You may want to use something to block IR outside of the tent however, if you can't use it inside. Depending on where you live and where in your house the tent is located it may not even be necessary. The IR camera tapes I have seen all show the IR coming from either the box sill (the piece of wood that sits on top of the foundation and attaches to the floor joists) which in dicates a basement grow op, or through the roof which indicates attics. just research all of that before you decide what to do. Most grow ops are busted because the farmer tells people he is growing, or neighbors smell it. IR detection isn't the usual reason. Many communities don't ever even do that, and the feds aren't scouring the entire country.

Jed
Very, very good points Jed. I do believe my original question was answered to the t. And you're right, it's very easy to flip the fan around and try out both methods to see which one works best. I want cool temps but security is more important. There's a dude that lives close by me that is growing and I can smell the sweet aroma of cheeva everytime he opens his windows. lol Anyhow thanks for the link! I'm gonna look into that asap. And you're right about the whole IR thing with the feds. Usually people do get busted because they can't keep their mouth shut or a neighbor smells them. I guess I'm just looking to be extra precautious....never hurts.
 
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