Just wanted to finalize this thread for anyone that may have the same question in the future. This was my first time trying an aeroponic type clone machine, so i wasn't sure what to exactly expect. Hotwire and tiptop were correct, there was nothing wrong, they started rooting after around 6-7 days. i didn't use any cloning gel or rooting hormones, just tap water ph'ed to around 6.5. 100% of them have rooted thus far. I made this cloning machine out of a 3 1/2 gallon bucket with a water pump hooked up to some PVC parts with sprayers and what not. found the DIY thread on another forum. it cost me under 40$ in parts from my local hydroponic store and some shit from home depot. Couldn't be happier with the results for the small amount of effort, time, and money I've invested. If anyone else would like to find it type "lets build a clone machine, step by step guide" into google. its an extremely easy project, with great benefits.