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The Evolution of the Trichome

skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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kindprincess said:
heh, so we can call ourselves, "the founding fathers(/mothers) of uvb growing/testing" eh?

lol, looks like this upcoming year will be interesting. it'll be fun to do indoor/ourdoor grows while uv is the main focus of comparison, watching results change with seasons, and then all the speculation and discussion! :mrgreen:

yeah, this is gonna be cool :blsmoke:
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Yes, I feel YGF played the defining card... my head was just stuck on light intensity. UV didn't actually occur to me until he mentioned it. Even up till now I had been sceptical about it's involvement.

I'm going to order my UV lamp today, I've finally settled on the one I want.
 
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skunkushybrid said:
Yes, I feel YGF played the defining card... my head was just stuck on light intensity. UV didn't actually occur to me until he mentioned it. Even up till now I had been sceptical about it's involvement.

I'm going to order my UV lamp today, I've finally settled on the one I want.
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show us!

i'm using the 10.0 reptile bulbs from the pet store.... :blsmoke:
 
closet.cult

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skunkushybrid said:
At one time in cannabis history, it was a carnivore... who knows how big it was... or what it looked like... but the plants of this period would have needed to devise all sorts of neat little tricks to catch their prey.

I also imagine that back then cannabis may have been much more potent.
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interesting. i disagree with this. not because it's imposible, but only because it is moving into conjecture at this point and it doesn't jive with my idea of evolution.

during the cambian explosion there were over 100(!) phyla that evolved and then vanished. today we have about 30. phyla is a huge group of different animals based on a a general body plan. like the difference between invertebrates and mollusks.

i imagine that the species that would end up being plants and that one that ended up being animals coexisted with creatures 'in-between' plants and animals, for a while. like an awake venus flytrap or pitcher plant.

i tend think that marijuana is not from those groups of carnivorous plants. rather, it just shares a couple of features with them (sticky glands). but as your previous post points out, tricnomes form on other plants today. i should think marijuana is more closly related to them then it is to carnivorous.

having said that, your theory is not imposible.
 
skunkushybrid

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Yes... anything is possible.

Although there are proto carnivorous, and para carnivorous sub types. Darwin himself recognised a list of plants he suspected could evolve into carnivores. cannabis was not one of them... but that doesn't mean anything.

The question is, can it be done? I believe the pot' ential is there.
 
tahoe58

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hey Skunk.. thanks for asking. I think it might be a very good choice. This is the product info from the OSRAM wewbsite....

The total irradiance of the sun on the surface of the Earth at noon on a sunny June day is around 1 kW/m2 (annual average solar radiation at a latitude of 50° N is 200 W/m2). An array of 16 lamps per square metre at a distance of about 50 cm between the bulb crown and the irradiated object achieves a similar uniform irradiance.


I found some other potential options as well, and I will continue to look into this.....I will post some additional information as I put it together.....but this is exciting...:mrgreen:

skunkushybrid said:
Thanks tahoe.

I'm wondering if you have anything to add on my choice of light? Think it's a little too powerful maybe?

I just like the fact it says equivalent UV radiation to the sun... I'm assuming they mean from the perspective of a tropical country, lol.
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ez_growin

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skunkushybrid said:
marijuana is just another plant? No, it has no classification... it is a class unto itself.

Obey the laws of nature? Since when does nature provide 24/0 sunlight?
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So true...I am just finishing 2 that were on 12/12 since 1 week old...and these babies are the best I've grown so far.....plant is done with fan leaves and growin tight trich loaded buds....this is very interesting thread...following for the ride...and great inputs......
 
skunkushybrid

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tahoe58 said:
hey Skunk.. thanks for asking. I think it might be a very good choice. This is the product info from the OSRAM wewbsite....

The total irradiance of the sun on the surface of the Earth at noon on a sunny June day is around 1 kW/m2 (annual average solar radiation at a latitude of 50° N is 200 W/m2). An array of 16 lamps per square metre at a distance of about 50 cm between the bulb crown and the irradiated object achieves a similar uniform irradiance.


I found some other potential options as well, and I will continue to look into this.....I will post some additional information as I put it together.....but this is exciting...:mrgreen:
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Surely I don't need 16 of them? I honestly don't understand the last part. I get that I must have the lamp around 20" away... which is going to be a bitch, considering my 400's are max 12" away. I'm only going to use 2 400's during veg. 1 mh, and one hps, alongside the 300w osram. Then bring the other 400w hps into play for flower.
 
natmoon

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You don't have to simulate the suns output to reap the benefits of uvb.
Cannabis will immediately detect higher levels of uvb and protect itself accordingly and this response only requires an elevated uvb level not a sun simulation level.:blsmoke:
 
natmoon

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skunkushybrid said:
Yeah, i kinda already know that... lol. Didn't you know that I am crazy?
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I figured that you knew that lol:blsmoke:
My response was really aimed at this text from tahoe.
The total irradiance of the sun on the surface of the Earth at noon on a sunny June day is around 1 kW/m2 (annual average solar radiation at a latitude of 50° N is 200 W/m2). An array of 16 lamps per square metre at a distance of about 50 cm between the bulb crown and the irradiated object achieves a similar uniform irradiance.
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Just in case some new person goes and buys 16 300 watt lamps and frys all their weed:mrgreen:
 
skunkushybrid

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Thanks nat', sorry for the misunderstanding... but what it has done is forced me to digest the whole sentence properly.

Now, I want a room that big... the possibilities, to my mind, seem endless.
 
natmoon

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skunkushybrid said:
Thanks nat', sorry for the misunderstanding... but what it has done is forced me to digest the whole sentence properly.

Now, I want a room that big... the possibilities, to my mind, seem endless.
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I used to have a friend who rented a garage for 10 pounds a week from the council lol:mrgreen:
 
tahoe58

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hey skunk. that thing about 16 lights is a little off from other material I found and presented in my thread....however, penetrebility is a potential issue....so maybe the size of room and depth of penetration is a factor....I didn't realize you put ur HIDs that close? but the rest of what ur saying is bang on...I think your approach is gonna produce some mostros! :blsmoke:
skunkushybrid said:
Surely I don't need 16 of them? I honestly don't understand the last part. I get that I must have the lamp around 20" away... which is going to be a bitch, considering my 400's are max 12" away. I'm only going to use 2 400's during veg. 1 mh, and one hps, alongside the 300w osram. Then bring the other 400w hps into play for flower.
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natmoon

natmoon

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tahoe58 said:
hey skunk. that thing about 16 lights is a little off from other material I found and presented in my thread....however, penetrebility is a potential issue....I didn't realize you put ur HIDs that close? but the rest of what ur saying is bang on...I think your appraoch is gonna produce some mostros! :blsmoke:
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What you posted was good info tahoe and something that i did not know but i reckon that some people that are new to growing if they had the cash may then try to simulate the sun with that 16 bulb setup in a confined area when i reckon that 16 bulbs would be good for a 16 square metre area lol:mrgreen:
 
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