EBB and Flow need help wit pix

royboy12

royboy12

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so my setup is as follows

1000watthps
NUTES:
house and garden
a&b aquaflakes
drip clean
roots excelerator

15 gallon res.
ebb and flow 4x2 tray netpots with hydroton


so heres the thing i noticed some lil yellow spots on a few plants jus like two of them..the rest are doing pretty good there kinda droopy though..ive grown a few times before and usually there alot more light green then they are right now..kinda darkish green..The stems are very purple too...the ph is a lil below 6.0 the ppm is 500 or something low like that..following the nute calculator pretty close kinda low balling what they say by like 10%...there showing new growth all the time and there getting bushy..:eyesmoke:bongsmilieam i over concerned or wut??ne feed back will b much appreciatedkiss-assthanx dudez
 

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ne ideas would be greatly appriciated i dont think its nute burn but i could be wrong..the calculator on the website said about 97mls of a and same for b.roots excelearator was about 16ml and drip clean was like 6 ml..anyboday no much about house and garden??
 
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ph is rightinbetween 5.5 and id say 6.2..dont know exactly what it is cause im jus using the drip kit with the color chart..ive got 2 fans on em at all times and there in a pretty big room but the room is in the basement though..thanx for the response dude rep +
 
horribleherk

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i do e&f with rockwool & i use g-h nutes & i advise you to get other opinions but it looks to me like you might need to up the nutes just a ''wee tad''& possible mineral defiency going on im not experienced enough to give the advice you need try posting pics in plant problems section & see what kind of replies you get good luck h.h.
 
royboy12

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no airstone in the res ..i think ill go get one today..give it a couple days see if that'll solve the problem..then ill c if i should up the nutes to the the level it says on the calculator..thanks for the help man ill post some more pix today
 
kabona

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royboy12 said:
no airstone in the res ..i think ill go get one today..give it a couple days see if that'll solve the problem..then ill c if i should up the nutes to the the level it says on the calculator..thanks for the help man ill post some more pix today
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yaa im pretty sure thats your problem then.... plants looks all deformed and look like they have nute burn but really its cuz of no oxygen in the water... get a air stone and air pump... should fix you up
 
royboy12

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RyanTheRhino said:
i run 2 air stones also in a 20 gall tote

i think the air stones are chipping off there is some blue sandlike sedeiment in the corners of my tub??:o
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what size are they?i jus dropped a 12'' aqua mister attached to an air pump in my 15 gallon resivoir hopefully we'll see some good results some time soon:hump:
 
patlpp

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By your description that they are dark dark green indicates that you may at one time had excessive N. I think you should review your doses. That Drip Clean looks like some pretty potent stuff too on the P side. Your 500ppm, is that .5 or .7 conversion? What were your exact doses in the 15 gal res from each product? What is the frequency of your feeds and for how long? Would like to know so we can calculate your exact ratios. Sometimes people inadvertently mistake dose quantities. Are you able to inspect your roots for root rot? Good to be ready with plan B if the oxygen theory is not right.
P.S. Does the labels show the calcium and Mag ratios? I am curious because I might buy me some of these nutes. Have you had good luck with them (in the past) ?
 
royboy12

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patlpp said:
By your description that they are dark dark green indicates that you may at one time had excessive N. I think you should review your doses. That Drip Clean looks like some pretty potent stuff too on the P side. Your 500ppm, is that .5 or .7 conversion? What were your exact doses in the 15 gal res from each product? What is the frequency of your feeds and for how long? Would like to know so we can calculate your exact ratios. Sometimes people inadvertently mistake dose quantities. Are you able to inspect your roots for root rot? Good to be ready with plan B if the oxygen theory is not right.
P.S. Does the labels show the calcium and Mag ratios? I am curious because I might buy me some of these nutes. Have you had good luck with them (in the past) ?
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thanx for the response dude rep+
Dose are as follows for my 15gallon resv.
Aqua A&B 90ml
drip clean 5ml
roots excelerator 15ml

because of the drooping i thought they were thirsty so they are now being fed every two hours.pump turns on for 15 minutes takes about 20 min to drain entirley
no root rot that i can tell...they look really white and healthy and are getting bigger by the day..my experience with them so far isnt the greatest..ive been havin a hard time getting the nutes right...let me know what u think got the air pump in there today so still crossin my fingers that lack of O2 was the cause:joint::peace:
 
royboy12

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took some root pix they look pretty good a lil bit brown in some spots but ithink thats the hydrotons coloring washing away..the roots themselves look pretty white and have grown a ton..got some better pix of the discolorization on the leaves maybe you guys can better diagnose what you think it is...and as far as theppm meter its a TDS 3 meter it doesnt say if its .7 or .5
 
patlpp

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royboy12 said:
took some root pix they look pretty good a lil bit brown in some spots but ithink thats the hydrotons coloring washing away..the roots themselves look pretty white and have grown a ton..got some better pix of the discolorization on the leaves maybe you guys can better diagnose what you think it is...and as far as theppm meter its a TDS 3 meter it doesnt say if its .7 or .5
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You have a .5 meter according to the website.

Those are some seriously messed up plants. I hate to see that. I wish I could help you more but this one is beyond me other than : Have you measured your water? City, well water? 200 ppm on up may be an issue. I still have this feeling there was a major dose mix-up somewhere (DRIP CLEAN) or mega N dose.

Please, more chime in!!
 
royboy12

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patlpp said:
You have a .5 meter according to the website.

Those are some seriously messed up plants. I hate to see that. I wish I could help you more but this one is beyond me other than : Have you measured your water? City, well water? 200 ppm on up may be an issue. I still have this feeling there was a major dose mix-up somewhere (DRIP CLEAN) or mega N dose.

Please, more chime in!!
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nope no dose mix up..and i always lowballed the nutes from what the calculator said..so is 500ppm to much then after i add the nutes??i was always told to try and keep it low...which i thought 500 was pretty low??maybe im wrong..
"im new...im new i dont know what to do!!"
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haha but all joking aside looked at em today they look alot perky ill get some pix up tonight maybe you guys will notice the diffrence too...but it seems like they got a few more spots on some of the smaller plants.but the big ones arent even affected it seems..any theory on why that is??
any and all suggestions are appreciated
and thanks for all your help so far dudebongsmilie
 
royboy12

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aight got some pix i think there lookin better but some of those small guys are lookin like they were more affected by the lack of o2..either way there lookin better i think...idk im impartial cause there my children and ive raised since they were lil baby clones..:p
aight guys lookin forward to your input
 
royboy12

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royboy12 said:
aight got some pix i think there lookin better but some of those small guys are lookin like they were more affected by the lack of o2..either way there lookin better i think...idk im impartial cause there my children and ive raised since they were lil baby clones..:p
aight guys lookin forward to your input
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got some mo pix
 

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ohh and also i checked the ppm of my regular tap water im using..its 86which aint that bad right??
 
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