The 'supernatural'

Artificial emotion

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I have a basic understanding of the concepts of statistics and some sciences. I know that as of yet there is no (credible) evidence for the paranormal despite all the research (there has been quite a lot of research done, surprisingly). It seems common sense to me.

Yet people still believe in the paranormal e.g. they believe they are psychic etc. Not because of evidence-based research but because they just 'believe it'. This is an area that can be put to the test in many cases (unlike religion in general).

I find these people intolerable and I feel that they lack a certain level of intelligence. Does this make me prejudiced? Does anyone actually agree with
me? I can understand if their life has been such that they haven't had the opportunity to read etc. but in many cases there's no excuse.
 

blazin256

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maybe the mere fact of trying to observe the supernatural cancels the effects of it. take quantum physics. well maybe this will help explain [youtube]DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]
 

Artificial emotion

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maybe the mere fact of trying to observe the supernatural cancels the effects of it. take quantum physics. well maybe this will help explain [youtube]DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]
I can't watch the video on my computer, but I think you mean wave-particle duality (high school physics). Also there is Shrodinger's cat (sp?) You kill the cat in the box with poison but it's both dead and alive until observed. Not quite the same thing as what I'm talking about but still an interesting topic nevertheless.
 
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chitownsmoking

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I have a basic understanding of the concepts of statistics and some sciences. I know that as of yet there is no (credible) evidence for the paranormal despite all the research (there has been quite a lot of research done, surprisingly). It seems common sense to me.

Yet people still believe in the paranormal e.g. they believe they are psychic etc. Not because of evidence-based research but because they just 'believe it'. This is an area that can be put to the test in many cases (unlike religion in general).

I find these people intolerable and I feel that they lack a certain level of intelligence. Does this make me prejudiced? Does anyone actually agree with
me? I can understand if their life has been such that they haven't had the opportunity to read etc. but in many cases there's no excuse.

awww man you need to watch more scifi channel
 

blazin256

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I can't watch the video on my computer, but I think you mean wave-particle duality (high school physics). Also there is Shrodinger's cat (sp?) You kill the cat in the box with poison but it's both dead and alive until observed. Not quite the same thing as what I'm talking about but still an interesting topic nevertheless.
i dont think thats what im talkin about. and i definitely dont remember quantum mechanics in high school. then again i did go to a public school...what the video basically says is that when you fire electrons in a double slit the atoms interfere with each other. but when they put a measuring device on one slit it behaved like you would think. its hard to explain and i cant explain this for shit. just watch it somehow.
 

sarah22

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I have a basic understanding of the concepts of statistics and some sciences. I know that as of yet there is no (credible) evidence for the paranormal despite all the research (there has been quite a lot of research done, surprisingly). It seems common sense to me.

Yet people still believe in the paranormal e.g. they believe they are psychic etc. Not because of evidence-based research but because they just 'believe it'. This is an area that can be put to the test in many cases (unlike religion in general).

I find these people intolerable and I feel that they lack a certain level of intelligence. Does this make me prejudiced? Does anyone actually agree with
me? I can understand if their life has been such that they haven't had the opportunity to read etc. but in many cases there's no excuse.
my IQ is in the near gifted range. somewhere between 135 and 140. i have psychic experiences daily. im not putting that out there to make myself sound smart or brag or any shit like that, im just using it as an example...to demonstrate that certain beliefs do not signify lack of intellect. theres nothing supernatural or magical about psychic ability. every human on this planet is capable of being psychic, it just takes practise. i also experience paranormal activity of many varieties, not just ghosts. i've seen shadow figures in my room in the middle of the night, i've been physically "hit" by thin air in my basement. i see energy auras around people, not in colours though, i havent got that skill. i just see and can feel the energy. i've managed to heal people with energy and i've protected people with energy. with regard to this type of thing, i just say let people be the way they want to be. i think it essentially boils down to personal experiences. those who have lots of them...have a hard time denying them. and those who've never had a personal experience cannot understand why its so strange and why it cant be explained by logic.
 

blazin256

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my IQ is in the near gifted range. somewhere between 135 and 140. i have psychic experiences daily. im not putting that out there to make myself sound smart or brag or any shit like that, im just using it as an example...to demonstrate that certain beliefs do not signify lack of intellect. theres nothing supernatural or magical about psychic ability. every human on this planet is capable of being psychic, it just takes practise. i also experience paranormal activity of many varieties, not just ghosts. i've seen shadow figures in my room in the middle of the night, i've been physically "hit" by thin air in my basement. i see energy auras around people, not in colours though, i havent got that skill. i just see and can feel the energy. i've managed to heal people with energy and i've protected people with energy. with regard to this type of thing, i just say let people be the way they want to be. i think it essentially boils down to personal experiences. those who have lots of them...have a hard time denying them. and those who've never had a personal experience cannot understand why its so strange and why it cant be explained by logic.
thats awsome. id go sam and dean on those spirits. does canada have any ugly girls? cause i dont think ive ever seen one.
 

Artificial emotion

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my IQ is in the near gifted range. somewhere between 135 and 140. i have psychic experiences daily. im not putting that out there to make myself sound smart or brag or any shit like that, im just using it as an example...to demonstrate that certain beliefs do not signify lack of intellect. theres nothing supernatural or magical about psychic ability. every human on this planet is capable of being psychic, it just takes practise. i also experience paranormal activity of many varieties, not just ghosts. i've seen shadow figures in my room in the middle of the night, i've been physically "hit" by thin air in my basement. i see energy auras around people, not in colours though, i havent got that skill. i just see and can feel the energy. i've managed to heal people with energy and i've protected people with energy. with regard to this type of thing, i just say let people be the way they want to be. i think it essentially boils down to personal experiences. those who have lots of them...have a hard time denying them. and those who've never had a personal experience cannot understand why its so strange and why it cant be explained by logic.
I'm not saying you are lying or trying to insult you, but if what you are experiencing is genuine, why in the history of the study of science has there never been any incidence of ANY paranormal activity scientifically authenticated in a controlled fashion in the public domain?

Unless you are mentally ill and are suffering from a psychotic illness like schizophrenia? That could be a possibility. That's the only explanation I could personally accept (unless you're making it all up, not that you are).
 

juleswinnfield

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I'm not saying you are lying or trying to insult you, but if what you are experiencing is genuine, why in the history of the study of science has there never been any incidence of ANY paranormal activity authenticated in the public domain?

Unless you are mentally ill and are suffering from a psychotic illness like schizophrenia? That could be a possibility.
Look into remote viewing. I don't know much about it but I hear the military has done some tests with it and such.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing
 

sarah22

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I'm not saying you are lying or trying to insult you, but if what you are experiencing is genuine, why in the history of the study of science has there never been any incidence of ANY paranormal activity authenticated in the public domain?

Unless you are mentally ill and are suffering from a psychotic illness like schizophrenia? That could be a possibility.
i do have a mental health disorder, but its not psychosis. none of my doctors in any way thought i was psychotic and i discussed these things with them. im classified as "borderline" which essentially means they dont really know exactly whats wrong. but they were clear with me that they did not find me to be psychotic.

i just think that you cant prove something that isnt a physical "thing" with physical sciences...at least not the sciences we have now. i think that maybe as science progresses we could come up with some solid explanations for these events, but at the current moment we dont possess a way to prove or disprove them. and relying solely on physical proof seems somewhat flawed to me. i think that too many people just discard personal experiences. personal experiences can be very powerful and change people's lives...i've not always been a "believer"...i was very much a skeptic. but once you've experienced things that science and logic cant explain, you find other ways to explain it. explanations that have been around for centuries, really. i refuse (even with lack of empirical evidence) to put all my eggs in one basket. i refuse to rely solely on either science or spirituality. i like having a balance of both in my life because the more balanced i am, the happier and healthier i am. i just do what works for me :)
 

sarah22

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thats awsome. id go sam and dean on those spirits. does canada have any ugly girls? cause i dont think ive ever seen one.
lol...lots of ugly girls. or as i affectionately call them...uggos. haha. im one of them, so i dont feel bad about using the term. thats not exactly what i look like...in my avatar. its just my face, and the picture was taken with strategic camera angles so its harder to tell that im fat :mrgreen: :lol: hahaha
 

Artificial emotion

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i dont think thats what im talkin about. and i definitely dont remember quantum mechanics in high school. then again i did go to a public school...what the video basically says is that when you fire electrons in a double slit the atoms interfere with each other. but when they put a measuring device on one slit it behaved like you would think. its hard to explain and i cant explain this for shit. just watch it somehow.
I just watched it and yes, it is about wave-particle duality/QM.
 

blazin256

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well ive seen "uggos" and your far from it. and almost every girl thinks they're fat so whatever. i like em a lil think any way.
 
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