Does anyone grow psychoactive plants?

aattocchi

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Umm... look at my username, and take an educated guess.
~Ethno
I seem to be having some trouble and from the looks of your user name you may be able to help, if you choose to. You see I started this little online ethnogarden exchange thing on myspace. Well, It is pretty much me(in the US) and 1 other person(in the UK) that do all the trading.

Here is my question, I received some Brugmansia seeds and can not seem to get them to sprout. I have read all the available guides on the internet and have a wealth of knowledge in my head and in notes. Do you know of any thing you have to do besides planting it in soil. For example, stratify the seed? I would try a bunch of different ways and figure it out by elimination, but I only have a few seeds and do not want to waste them.
 

Ethnobotanist

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I seem to be having some trouble and from the looks of your user name you may be able to help, if you choose to. You see I started this little online ethnogarden exchange thing on myspace. Well, It is pretty much me(in the US) and 1 other person(in the UK) that do all the trading.

Here is my question, I received some Brugmansia seeds and can not seem to get them to sprout. I have read all the available guides on the internet and have a wealth of knowledge in my head and in notes. Do you know of any thing you have to do besides planting it in soil. For example, stratify the seed? I would try a bunch of different ways and figure it out by elimination, but I only have a few seeds and do not want to waste them.
I've never tried to grow brugmansia personally, and I know of only one person who has successfully grown them from seed. They're notoriously hard to germinate, and they're easily enough available as a pre-rooted plant in garden centres. Plus, they grow virtually all over the continental U.S. as an ornamental plant, so I've never had a need or desire to grow one out. I have, however, consumed a brugmanisa flower before, and it's not a entheogenic experiment I'd care to repeat- if I ever did it again, it would probably be a very small segment brewed into ayahausca, as is done among some Amazonian tribes. Atropa alkaloids are frightening, and that's saying something: virtually nothing frightens me.

First, I assume you have in your possession the seeds, and not simply the pod that contains the seed. If it's the latter, crack it open. I'm not sure of the shelf life of the seeds themselves after they've been removed from the pod, so I can't comment on their viability if the seeds were shipped by your friend. Tree daturas seeds can be stored for a while though, so far as I know, because they can enter a dormant state until conditions are JUST right to grow.

I do know of a few things that could help, as the aforementioned friend gave me a rundown of what he did. First, the seedling needs sandy, loamy soil. Peat moss is good, as is a sand/organic soil mixture. The soil should be -slightly- moist, but BARELY... These plants generally germinate better in drier areas, and they can enter a dormant state when there is no moisture. The main thing you need is HEAT. Tree daturas seem to love heat even more than the herbacious ones. If you have a heating mat, that's ideal. Aside from this, I can't really help you much... Atropine-containing plants aren't my cup of tea, as I said.

If your friend can procure seeds, see if he can get you a cutting, with some live growth toward the bottom to be removed for rooting (heel). This is your best bet, as these plants do well when planted as cuttings. It's difficult to germinate these babies, as you've already discovered. Good luck though on whatever you decide to do, and if you have any more questions, I'll do my best to answer them. Angel's Trumpet really is a beautiful (if deadly) tree.

~Ethno
 

aattocchi

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I've never tried to grow brugmansia personally, and I know of only one person who has successfully grown them from seed. They're notoriously hard to germinate, and they're easily enough available as a pre-rooted plant in garden centres. Plus, they grow virtually all over the continental U.S. as an ornamental plant, so I've never had a need or desire to grow one out. I have, however, consumed a brugmanisa flower before, and it's not a entheogenic experiment I'd care to repeat- if I ever did it again, it would probably be a very small segment brewed into ayahausca, as is done among some Amazonian tribes. Atropa alkaloids are frightening, and that's saying something: virtually nothing frightens me.

First, I assume you have in your possession the seeds, and not simply the pod that contains the seed. If it's the latter, crack it open. I'm not sure of the shelf life of the seeds themselves after they've been removed from the pod, so I can't comment on their viability if the seeds were shipped by your friend. Tree daturas seeds can be stored for a while though, so far as I know, because they can enter a dormant state until conditions are JUST right to grow.

I do know of a few things that could help, as the aforementioned friend gave me a rundown of what he did. First, the seedling needs sandy, loamy soil. Peat moss is good, as is a sand/organic soil mixture. The soil should be -slightly- moist, but BARELY... These plants generally germinate better in drier areas, and they can enter a dormant state when there is no moisture. The main thing you need is HEAT. Tree daturas seem to love heat even more than the herbacious ones. If you have a heating mat, that's ideal. Aside from this, I can't really help you much... Atropine-containing plants aren't my cup of tea, as I said.

If your friend can procure seeds, see if he can get you a cutting, with some live growth toward the bottom to be removed for rooting (heel). This is your best bet, as these plants do well when planted as cuttings. It's difficult to germinate these babies, as you've already discovered. Good luck though on whatever you decide to do, and if you have any more questions, I'll do my best to answer them. Angel's Trumpet really is a beautiful (if deadly) tree.

~Ethno
Yeah, beautiful plant man. like you, I have dabbled with this plant in the past, I did not find it frightening because I didn't realize I was in an awaken dream state. Everything was blurred except my visions. However, that was long ago and I have learned a lot since then(like the LD50 is almost the same as the effective dose). I also find it logical not to consume this plant.

I planted some the way you described 5 days ago. I had planted a couple in some moisture control soil about 2 weeks ago. The seeds are from this year, and I am probably being impatient. Thank you!
 

Ethnobotanist

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Hey ethno is that pic from Adam...from Tool?
Not that I know of. But Tool employs an artist named Alex Grey to do much of the artwork for their albums, and the painting in my avatar is by him. He's an amazing psychadelic artist. Tool does not do any of their own album art.

I'm not sure if this particular painting was featured, because I think he did custom art just for them. It's possible, though. He's done quite a bit of art for them, and that's where most people probably know his work from. If it is, please let me know. I'd be interested to find that out!


~Ethno
 

aattocchi

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Have any of you ever seen TOOL live on LSD, I think I felt a shiver go up my spine just thinking about it. Truely the greatest experience you'll ever have!
 

aattocchi

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I'm afraid I haven't had the pleasure. :)

~Ethno
You have at least heard them trippin, right? If not, you are missing out on life itself:mrgreen:.

I want to go to NY to the Chaple of Sacred Mirrors on LSD this comming up year/08, I have seen Cosm like 100 times:peace:.
 

punkhardcore92

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I rember once when i listend to tool after eating a half of cambodian P.cubes, I think the music video tripping took the music to a whole diffrent level, for instance i didn't care for skizsm, them i watched the video tripping. Breathtaking.
 

aattocchi

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Has anyone heard about ethnogardenexchange.freeeorums.org :confused: I thought it would be a good idea:peace: Does anyone have any input on this new group:blsmoke:
 

farmerfischer

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Hey, I was curious about how many users grew something besides Cannabis.
I grow about anything, rite now I'm growin san pedro cacti, peruvian torch cacti, salvia, several poppies, and of course mj. I just started the san pedro three months ago, their not very big. From what ive read they take years IMG_20150116_130855.jpgIMG_20150121_222410.jpg IMG_20150108_235946.jpg
 

farmerfischer

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no the pedro don't take years, as soon as you have a long enough cut you can trip.

It's the peyote that takes long.
I was meaning about ayear and ahalf to two for a workable cactus you knw like one to two feet tall is ideal an eight month old plant is only ahalf to three qurtars of an inch tall, I should of clarified I'm growing from seed as you can tell from my pic
 
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