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[Am I Norml]

thanks alot, i have a degree in horticulture, but i concentrated in turfgrass so i never paid attention to the other stuff lol. so i have a basic knowledge about outdoor growing. so i know how look at a plant and see signs of stress, so i will do i trial and error on this. thanks so much for the info

its all good...you will find out in these forums that you will encounter 6 zillion different people with 6 zillion different ways of doing things and truthfully we can all give examples but there is no *set* way of doing any of it .. its all trial and error really i hope i did get to help you out

 

[riddleme]

Yes that is very true, the best thing you can do is to get a solid foundation of the basic how to grow, then add how to tweak for better production, once you have these down and have seen success to the end,,,you start experimentin

don't do it to all your plants just pick one and use it to experiment and learn from to expand your knowledge of what works and what doesn't

I have shared all of my experiments here and in my grow journal to helps others learn from my experiments and mistakes

 

[Am I Norml]

Yes that is very true, the best thing you can do is to get a solid foundation of the basic how to grow, then add how to tweak for better production, once you have these down and have seen success to the end,,,you start experimentin

don't do it to all your plants just pick one and use it to experiment and learn from to expand your knowledge of what works and what doesn't

I have shared all of my experiments here and in my grow journal to helps others learn from my experiments and mistakes

see right now i'm in the experimental stage .. my latest experiment is i took a outdoor 50 gallon pot and i have 8 plants in it right now LST'd to the max and I'm running them all on strait mirical grow general purpose nutes but I'm using the nutes to retard the flowering stage by manipulating the different NPK values to hold off the actual flowering stage and i want to see how far i can push it till they hermi hey i know it sounds alittle fukt up but i was really reallllly high and was also realllllly bored and so far under 3 months of 12/12 they still haven't tried to flower at all

 

[MR.Budder]

riddle me check my thread on honey oil cleaning tell me what u think

tell me what u think i know most of the older ppl on the site might now about this techniec

 

[EdGreyfox]

Riddle,

What are your thoughts on Ladybugs for indoor garden pest control when you're only growing a small number of plants (20 or less between all grow areas)? Apparently they are a great way to keep spider mites under control, but are they worth the effort for small garden? How do you keep them alive once they've killed off your mite infestation? I'm also a bit confused about why you have to buy so many of them at a time (smallest amount I found was 1000).

 

[riddleme]

Riddle,

What are your thoughts on Ladybugs for indoor garden pest control when you're only growing a small number of plants (20 or less between all grow areas)? Apparently they are a great way to keep spider mites under control, but are they worth the effort for small garden? How do you keep them alive once they've killed off your mite infestation? I'm also a bit confused about why you have to buy so many of them at a time (smallest amount I found was 1000).

Would not be a practical option for me as my grow area is in my living room, don't think I could handle a 1000 ladybugs watchin tv with me

That being said I think I would opt for ladybugs as a solution after I had tried others that may have failed, would not go straight to ladybugs

But I would ask DanyGreeneyes as I know he has used em and has experience with em???

 

[riddleme]

I just finished harvesting the remaining popcorn buds and have put Matilda into re-veg

Details in my Goin Loco Journal

wet wieght on the second harvest was 28.8 grams

that makes my wet total exactly 4 oz's

 

[Kriegs]

Riddle,

What are your thoughts on Ladybugs for indoor garden pest control when you're only growing a small number of plants (20 or less between all grow areas)? Apparently they are a great way to keep spider mites under control, but are they worth the effort for small garden? How do you keep them alive once they've killed off your mite infestation? I'm also a bit confused about why you have to buy so many of them at a time (smallest amount I found was 1000).

Don't do it. These "predator reintroduction" ploys rarely work, and ladybugs are actually quite nasty (they bite for no reason whatever). They also like to set up colonies in houses, and then swarm indoors when the first warm weather hits. They sell you 1000 in hopes that 50 will survive and hang around to do the job.

Malathion is pretty effective on spider mites, though, depending what stage of growing you're in (don't put it on buds near harvest).

 

[Am I Norml]

Don't do it. These "predator reintroduction" ploys rarely work, and ladybugs are actually quite nasty (they bite for no reason whatever). They also like to set up colonies in houses, and then swarm indoors when the first warm weather hits. They sell you 1000 in hopes that 50 will survive and hang around to do the job.

Malathion is pretty effective on spider mites, though, depending what stage of growing you're in (don't put it on buds near harvest).

i have seen ladybugs work pretty effectively on a few grows but they were all in sheds or trailers away from a house ..DO NOT put them in your house or you will never get rid of the fuckers .. just the way it is ..

 

[EdGreyfox]

Thanks for the replies guys. I've been considering long term mite prevention and thought the lady bugs might be worth investigating, but it really seems like they are best suited to large grows where they aren't as likely to kill off their food supply. I guess I'm just going to have to continue using the neem as a regular preventative to keep the little bastards from getting established again.

 

[Am I Norml]

Thanks for the replies guys. I've been considering long term mite prevention and thought the lady bugs might be worth investigating, but it really seems like they are best suited to large grows where they aren't as likely to kill off their food supply. I guess I'm just going to have to continue using the neem as a regular preventative to keep the little bastards from getting established again.

its all good man .. just hoped i could help out .. i wouldn't go to ladybugs unless you have a TOTALLY sealed room and are positively DESPERATE and even then if they get in a crack in your house they will establish a colony and you will have ladybugs for life .. made the mistake.. but i don't have mites ever now lol

 

[EdGreyfox]

I'm not desperate yet. The first application of neem didn't wipe out the infestation (didn't really expect it to), but it knocked them back quite a bit. How often can you reapply the stuff without it causing the plants a problem? I know you want to do it about once a week for preventative care, but will using it every other day during an infestation hurt the plants?

 

[Am I Norml]

I'm not desperate yet. The first application of neem didn't wipe out the infestation (didn't really expect it to), but it knocked them back quite a bit. How often can you reapply the stuff without it causing the plants a problem? I know you want to do it about once a week for preventative care, but will using it every other day during an infestation hurt the plants?

i have effectively used it every other day on a grow i have over at my brother in laws house but my grows here have never had mites one single time in 10 years .. just keep the plants good and healthy and spray the shit out of them making sure to get under the leaves too and watch for them to start yellowing because that is a sign you are over spraying and clogging up their poors if you get clogging then just spray them down a couple days in a row really good with just plain old water it will clear it up nicely

 

[riddleme]

I'm not desperate yet. The first application of neem didn't wipe out the infestation (didn't really expect it to), but it knocked them back quite a bit. How often can you reapply the stuff without it causing the plants a problem? I know you want to do it about once a week for preventative care, but will using it every other day during an infestation hurt the plants?

can't remember if you are still in veg or not? if still in veg raise the humidity to like 80 to 90% spidermites hate it, would have to go at least 2 weeks with it as the breeding cycle for the critters is every 8 days

also think the malithyon would be best choice for killin em

 

[EdGreyfox]

Riddle,

I was supposed to start flowering two days ago, but when I found the mites I decide to leave the lights at 18/6 until they were dealt with. Which growstores do you frequent here in town? The places I've been to never seem to carry the same brands/products you use.

Not sure how I could raise the humidity that high for the amount of time you're recommending though. I can ge it up that high in short bursts by putting them in the bathroom while the shower is running, but I've never been able to get my grow area up over 50% for more then a couple hours at a time.

 

[riddleme]

Riddle,

I was supposed to start flowering two days ago, but when I found the mites I decide to leave the lights at 18/6 until they were dealt with. Which growstores do you frequent here in town? The places I've been to never seem to carry the same brands/products you use.

Not sure how I could raise the humidity that high for the amount of time you're recommending though. I can ge it up that high in short bursts by putting them in the bathroom while the shower is running, but I've never been able to get my grow area up over 50% for more then a couple hours at a time.

Yeah gotta love Colorado's low humidity (great for flowering) have you tried adding a humidifier?

as for products, I go to Paulinos Gardens which is a few blocks north of 58th on Broadway, they have the Jack's and DynaGro as well as most of the FoxFarms products, it's a great place!

 

[greencrack1985]

I believe that in order to get rid of spider mites, the best way is to use IPM (integrated pest management). pretty much IPM if you do not know is getting rid of pests without using chemicals. for example if you have cockroaches in your house, just clean up the crap, aka taking away there food and sometimes shelter will get rid of them. in the case of spider mites, i have read that if you spray the leaves with water on both sides and wipe down the leave top and bottom once a day it will get rid of them. this might be a bit time consuming if you have a lot of plants with a lot of leaves, but it reduces the amount of chemicals that you use. this is just a cheap inexpensive way without using chemicals, and making sure your end product is the bomb

 

[greencrack1985]

i just posted a pic in my profile and for some reason its not showing up. any ideas why?

 

[riddleme]

i just posted a pic in my profile and for some reason its not showing up. any ideas why?

Did ya hit the save button afterwards?

 

[greencrack1985]

lol yea and when i click on "view profile" the pic is there.... but when i post something, nothing comes up as you can see. oh well not too big a deal i guess. So i planted about 5 germinated seeds a few days ago and im starting to see some sprouts soooo exciting for my first grow