Global Warming Update

[Woodstock.Hippie]

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Very few acknowledge IT even exists.

What is your phavorite book?

 

[mismos00]

Again for the retarded... if you don't know basic science, how are you going to criticize more complex theories, when you can't even understand the theories or the real criticisms. With every post your ignorance shows more and more.

 

[jeff f]

only after you agree that "everywhere" in the sense of "global" climate change extends a bit further afield than alabama

you didnt open the links did ya?

 

[jeff f]

Again for the retarded... if you don't know basic science, how are you going to criticize more complex theories, when you can't even understand the theories or the real criticism.

you mean theories like the earth is getting warmer thats why its fucking freezing EVERYWHERE? those theories.

yes, i dont understand those. why dont you explain them

 

[ginjawarrior]

you mean theories like the earth is getting warmer thats why its fucking freezing EVERYWHERE? those theories.

yes, i dont understand those. why dont you explain them

1 its winter
2 its not cold everywhere just some places and you just happen to be in one of them...

 

[jeff f]

Another basic science lesson for the MOD.

"Icebergs float"

Here is a basic science experiment even the mentally retarded can do at home.

Put some Ice in a cup... fill up the rest of the cup with water, to the top... now let it melt... you will notice the water line doesn't change because the ice changes to water, which is less volumn... BUT the Ice that was sticking up top of the glass also melts into the cup, keeping the water level the same. (I did this experiment like in grade 5 or something).

Do you get it? Any iceburgs, or ice that are in the ocean WON'T RAISE THE SEA LEVEL... ONLY ICE ON LAND WILL DO THAT!

I suggest you guys find a physics site devoted to children and the mentally handicapped... and spend the rest of your life trying to catch up to society.

Don't you guys feel stupid yet?????

Again... this is all BASIC FUCKING SCIENCE!

you failed that class didnt ya? go ahead admit it.

try this mr science douche, fill a bottle with water and put it in the freezer...WALAH it blows up. dude, you are really out to lunch.

 

[mismos00]

you mean theories like the earth is getting warmer thats why its fucking freezing EVERYWHERE? those theories.

yes, i dont understand those. why dont you explain them

It has been the warmest decade on record. So what the FUCK are YOU talking about. I'm talking about global temperatures, not what the weather is like in hick town. Try googling weather vs. climate for another basic science lesson.

Do you know what an average is?

Just because it is snowing a lot in one place, doesn't mean it is colder, or does it directly relate to the general temperature of the globe, which is an AVERAGE temperature.

Also, as I've stated already, warmer air holds more moisture, therefore more precipitation. As straightforward and basic as it gets... Get it?

I think you should go back to making fools of yourself on political threads, your scientific understanding is pathetic.

 

[mismos00]

you failed that class didnt ya? go ahead admit it.

try this mr science douche, fill a bottle with water and put it in the freezer...WALAH it blows up. dude, you are really out to lunch.

What the fuck does that prove? What are you talking about? Can you string together at least a few facts and make a point?

 

[ginjawarrior]

you failed that class didnt ya? go ahead admit it.

try this mr science douche, fill a bottle with water and put it in the freezer...WALAH it blows up. dude, you are really out to lunch.

lol jeff you'd better go back and check your 4th grade science

 

[mismos00]

By the picture of that girls mid-rift, I can tell you're a really deep thinker Jeff.

 

[fdd2blk]

Another basic science lesson for the MOD.

"Icebergs float"

Here is a basic science experiment even the mentally retarded can do at home.

Put some Ice in a cup... fill up the rest of the cup with water, to the top... now let it melt... you will notice the water line doesn't change because the ice changes to water, which is less volumn... BUT the Ice that was sticking up top of the glass also melts into the cup, keeping the water level the same. (I did this experiment like in grade 5 or something).

Do you get it? Any iceburgs, or ice that are in the ocean WON'T RAISE THE SEA LEVEL... ONLY ICE ON LAND WILL DO THAT!

I suggest you guys find a physics site devoted to children and the mentally handicapped... and spend the rest of your life trying to catch up to society.

Don't you guys feel stupid yet?????

Again... this is all BASIC FUCKING SCIENCE!

your dumb is showing, ...


http://www.bsharp.org/physics/icebergs

Icebergs

You may have heard that 90% of an iceberg lies below the water. Why is that? What determines whether something sinks or floats, and, if it floats, how much of it remains above the surface? This is the question of buoyancy, which is governed by a simple principle that Archimedes figured out, supposedly while taking a bath, after which he made his famous shout 'Eureka!'. (Photo by Mark Deneyer.)
Buoyancy

Buoyancy is the upward force exerted on an object immersed in a fluid. Of course, water is the most common fluid, but buoyancy also applies to hot air balloons (where the fluid is the surrounding air) and many other situations. What's the basic idea? Archimedes figured out that the key to buoyancy is how much volume the object displaces compared to its weight. Archimedes Principle of buoyancy states that the upward force on an object in a fluid is equal to the weight of the fluid that is displaced. If this bouyant force is less than the weight of the object itself, the object will be left with a net downward force and will sink. If the object floats, it floats enough that the bouyant force exactly balances its weight.
For solid, uniform objects like an iceberg, this boils down to the object's mass density, its mass divided by its volume, usually represented by the Greek letter

. For something like a boat hull, which is hollow, not uniform, you have to just look at the total weight and the volume of displaced water.

 

[fdd2blk]

and i clearly stated that the ice in the ocean melting would LOWER the sea level. slow down and pay attention.

 

[Woodstock.Hippie]

take out before the Gluconate Guy?

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Time is shortening to :10

Who's The Guy At 2:00, LARDASS?!?!

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[fdd2blk]

the oceans are full of icebergs. when they melt the ocean levels will DROP. when the land ice melts it will RISE to where it is NOW keeping it all even.


see how that works?



the sahara desert was once a rain forest. how?


http://www.virted.org/MAPS&GLOBES/Lakes.html

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Lakes were formed many thousands of years ago by glaciers. At that time, huge glaciers covered the earth. When the glaciers melted, some of the water that was over hollows in the earth became lakes.



basic science, bitches.
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Another basic science lesson for the MOD.

"Icebergs float"

Here is a basic science experiment even the mentally retarded can do at home.

Put some Ice in a cup... fill up the rest of the cup with water, to the top... now let it melt... you will notice the water line doesn't change because the ice changes to water, which is less volumn... BUT the Ice that was sticking up top of the glass also melts into the cup, keeping the water level the same. (I did this experiment like in grade 5 or something).

Do you get it? Any iceburgs, or ice that are in the ocean WON'T RAISE THE SEA LEVEL... ONLY ICE ON LAND WILL DO THAT!

I suggest you guys find a physics site devoted to children and the mentally handicapped... and spend the rest of your life trying to catch up to society.

Don't you guys feel stupid yet?????

Again... this is all BASIC FUCKING SCIENCE!

i do apologize. i didn't realize you were agreeing with me. you come off like you are trying to debate my logic. my bad.

 

[ginjawarrior]

your dumb is showing, ...


http://www.bsharp.org/physics/icebergs

Icebergs

You may have heard that 90% of an iceberg lies below the water. Why is that? What determines whether something sinks or floats, and, if it floats, how much of it remains above the surface? This is the question of buoyancy, which is governed by a simple principle that Archimedes figured out, supposedly while taking a bath, after which he made his famous shout 'Eureka!'. (Photo by Mark Deneyer.)
Buoyancy

Buoyancy is the upward force exerted on an object immersed in a fluid. Of course, water is the most common fluid, but buoyancy also applies to hot air balloons (where the fluid is the surrounding air) and many other situations. What's the basic idea? Archimedes figured out that the key to buoyancy is how much volume the object displaces compared to its weight. Archimedes Principle of buoyancy states that the upward force on an object in a fluid is equal to the weight of the fluid that is displaced. If this bouyant force is less than the weight of the object itself, the object will be left with a net downward force and will sink. If the object floats, it floats enough that the bouyant force exactly balances its weight.
For solid, uniform objects like an iceberg, this boils down to the object's mass density, its mass divided by its volume, usually represented by the Greek letter

. For something like a boat hull, which is hollow, not uniform, you have to just look at the total weight and the volume of displaced water.

fdd how much does ice expand tho?

When liquid water is cooled, it contracts like one would expect until a temperature of approximately 4 degrees Celsius is reached. After that, it expands slightly until it reaches the freezing point, and then when it freezes it expands by approximately 9%

http://www.iapws.org/faq1/freeze.htm

archemedies said that it will only displace its own weight so an iceberg will only displace as much water as it weighs and all its weight is water

 

[fdd2blk]

fdd how much does ice expand tho?

When liquid water is cooled, it contracts like one would expect until a temperature of approximately 4 degrees Celsius is reached. After that, it expands slightly until it reaches the freezing point, and then when it freezes it expands by approximately 9%

http://www.iapws.org/faq1/freeze.htm

archemedies said that it will only displace its own weight so an iceberg will only displace as much water as it weighs and all its weight is water

take a 2 litre soda bottle. fill it to the tippy top. freeze it. it will EXPAND. go ahead and measure how much. it is quite noticeable, even on this small scale. now multiply that by the size of an iceberg.

 

[mismos00]

and i clearly stated that the ice in the ocean melting would LOWER the sea level. slow down and pay attention.

Fuck, NO IT WOULDN'T... IT WOULD REMAIN THE SAME....


[FONT=verdana, geneva, helvetica]"water expands when it forms ice. If the ice is floating, it will displace an amount of water that equals the weight of the ice. So even though you have bits of ice floating up higher than the surface of the water, the level of the water will not change in the least bit as the ice melts. However, this presuposes that the ice is floating. For example, you could imagine that you have a 2 foot tall pole of ice, sitting firmly on the bottom of the 6 inch tall glass, with maybe a teaspoon of water around the sides. In that case, displacement has nothing to do with it because you have way more ice in the glass than the glass will eventually hold. So you can have it either way. However in the typical case, few cubes of ice in a glass of water, your intuition is correct, the glass will not overflow. PS. this is a physics question, involving freezing, and water displacement, and not a chemical question involving changing bonds between atoms and molecules. Not that that matters, you have your answer."

OR JUST GOOGLE "ICE WATER DISPLACEMENT" (You can also find the information dumbed down for grade school students).

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=201430

http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/blnovel.htm

http://mypages.iit.edu/~smile/pl9412.html

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does+melting+ice+overflow+the+glass

BASIC FUCKING SCIENCE PEOPLE!!!!!

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[mismos00]

take a 2 litre soda bottle. fill it to the tippy top. freeze it. it will EXPAND. go ahead and measure how much. it is quite noticeable, even on this small scale. now multiply that by the size of an iceberg.

Listen buddy... the issue we are talking about is will ice that is floating in water, when melted, change the level of the water.

The answer is very OBVIOUS if you paid any attention in school.

 

[ginjawarrior]

take a 2 litre soda bottle. fill it to the tippy top. freeze it. it will EXPAND. go ahead and measure how much. it is quite noticeable, even on this small scale. now multiply that by the size of an iceberg.

i know ice expands thats why it can float
you said that about 90% of the iceberg is underwater. that leaves about 10% of the iceberg above water...
now i showed that water expands about 9%
now round about 9% expansion and about 10% floating seems to match to me?

if you took 2 liters/kgs of frozen water
and you took 2 liters/ kgs of unfrozen water and gently placed both into 2 buckets full of water both buckets would have 2 liter/kgs of water pour out of them. try it i bet you anything the ice displaces the same amount as the other

EDIT: make sure the bucket is big enough to let whatever ice you put in move/roll about. a 2 liter bottle shape block and a skinny bucket might not work so well...

 

[mismos00]

take a 2 litre soda bottle. fill it to the tippy top. freeze it. it will EXPAND. go ahead and measure how much. it is quite noticeable, even on this small scale. now multiply that by the size of an iceberg.

AT least it is a good sign that you understand that when water freezes it expands.

Now take that Idea and run it backwards.