WTF??? help a brotha out
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jumboSWISHER
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i snipped of the 2 or 3 bad ones, left the ones that were barely affected. if i use the shultz plant food should i half/half it with fox farm grow big? just curous lol
grow plenty
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hey jumbo....where did you get your s.s. haze. i have a couple or three , been vegging for 2 months. the reason i ask is my plants are heavy sativa and it looks like the plant your showing on your post looks pretty indica heavy to me. it just makes me wonder how 2 plants can have the same name and yet be totally differant types. i honestly dont know what your plant problem is but good luck with em'
riddleme
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Looks like a Cal/Mag def to me, and appears that your plant is big enough to have depleted the soil of whatever cal/mag it had?
Did you add Dolomite Lime to your soil ???
Does not look like insect infestation, This is why growing different strains is a mistake because they often DO NOT follow the same feeding/watering schedules. You see a problem in one that is not in the others and it can throw your thinking off.
I doubt if the nutes you mentioned having are gonna fix it
If I was you I would sprinkle a tablespoon of dolomite lime evenly around the top of the soil and water with a light dose of the shultz you have 7 drops to a gallon
The Dolomite is not that exspensive and can be gotten at walmart or home depot, lowes etc.
Did you add Dolomite Lime to your soil ???
Does not look like insect infestation, This is why growing different strains is a mistake because they often DO NOT follow the same feeding/watering schedules. You see a problem in one that is not in the others and it can throw your thinking off.
I doubt if the nutes you mentioned having are gonna fix it
If I was you I would sprinkle a tablespoon of dolomite lime evenly around the top of the soil and water with a light dose of the shultz you have 7 drops to a gallon
The Dolomite is not that exspensive and can be gotten at walmart or home depot, lowes etc.
dakin3d
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Although it's always tough to make a diagnosis w/o knowing your daily routine, I would have to agree w/ riddle (listen to him, he knows what's up). In addition, it looked perfectly healthy initially w/ the exception of the two fan leaves, there are very little signs of pests (even though photos aren't macro), and it isn't the cat piss b/c this started previous to then and you flushed, which is also going to take out the pH imbalance (amongst other obvious reasons). The most logical choice is deficiency, plus if you aren't providing nutrients, the plant is telling you it's time. Its a good size at this point.
What type of medium are you using? Have you pHed/ppm your runoff?
Riddle's advice is good and the most cost effective.... Or you can obtain some Cal/Mag (strong stuff, start @ 1/4 to 1/3 of directed concentration initially)
Looks like this could be a good pheno. Good luck. Cheers
What type of medium are you using? Have you pHed/ppm your runoff?
Riddle's advice is good and the most cost effective.... Or you can obtain some Cal/Mag (strong stuff, start @ 1/4 to 1/3 of directed concentration initially)
Looks like this could be a good pheno. Good luck. Cheers
jumboSWISHER
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i got the seeds from a really good family friend that has been growing this strain for a year or so now, not sure where they got it from. that is weird, but i kno people that jus call there weed some popular strain so it sounds better ya kno. im pretty sure this strain originated from sterling haze and white rhino. i could b wrong tho
i didnt add any thing to my soil, just black gold potting soil. and i dont have this plant on the same feeding schedule as the other strain. iv been making it rain for a about a week
flush,feed,water. iv been using half strenght fox farm grow big. i dont have ne cash today, but the molasses i have has calcium, and epsom salt has magnesium, would a lil bit of both work?? just a thought.i have been using riddleme's make it rain routine. flush, let it wick off the water. feed 1/2 strength FF frow big, water with clear water. then start over. im using black gold potting soil. i havent PHed my runoff, i will next time i water.
thanks everybody!
rollmeUPoneSCOTTY!
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cheers ! 
dakin3d
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It's not the cat piss, swish (or at least it's not probable based on your input).
Keep in mind, Swish, that older foliage, may or may not (depending on the problem, typically NOT) recover once damage has already been done. So always look at the new growth THROUGHOUT the plant for indicators of health. Another mistake that I CONSCIOUSLY made when starting out. Yes, I knew I should be looking at new growth (and I did), but I wasn't using that information to properly diagnose the problem. Hey, if a leaf is burnt up to the point of FUBAR, it isn't likely that it will recover. It's like a car that has been totaled, burnt, flooded... sometimes it just isn't repairable.
As far as how to proceed, like you stated, give it a couple days before you start changing your regimen. If the problem wasn't salt buildup, then it could be soggy soil, which is causing one of your nutrient deficiencies. This is such a common problem with individuals whom don't take careful consideration regarding their medium and container size. If it doesn't have sufficient aeration, then you will battle damp soil, salt buildup, nutrient lockout, etc. in a never ending cycle until it is resolved. Balance the system. I hope this works out. I had similar problems on my initial grows, and I dedicate it all to shitty soil, inappropriate container size, over watering, and over feeding. Take care, bro and keep us posted. Cheers, dak
You are correct, MAJOR pH fluctuations can be detrimental to a plant (ie, 3-10, 1-12, etc.), but minor fluctuations in both soil AND hydro are essential for IDEAL nutrient uptake. THe macro-, secondary, and micro- nutrients are all absorbed at varying pH (ie, Fe is absorbed best at pH 4-6, while P is absorbed BEST at 8.7-10 even though it is sufficient at 6.4-7.5). These are contributing reasons why there is justification in the point that UB normally try's to illustrate: (If you grow in soil) Too much emphasis is put on pH. If it weren't for the fluctuation in pH, the plant might not be able to thrive at optimum levels (or it would have evolved over time to adapt otherwise).
Keep in mind, Swish, that older foliage, may or may not (depending on the problem, typically NOT) recover once damage has already been done. So always look at the new growth THROUGHOUT the plant for indicators of health. Another mistake that I CONSCIOUSLY made when starting out. Yes, I knew I should be looking at new growth (and I did), but I wasn't using that information to properly diagnose the problem. Hey, if a leaf is burnt up to the point of FUBAR, it isn't likely that it will recover. It's like a car that has been totaled, burnt, flooded... sometimes it just isn't repairable.
As far as how to proceed, like you stated, give it a couple days before you start changing your regimen. If the problem wasn't salt buildup, then it could be soggy soil, which is causing one of your nutrient deficiencies. This is such a common problem with individuals whom don't take careful consideration regarding their medium and container size. If it doesn't have sufficient aeration, then you will battle damp soil, salt buildup, nutrient lockout, etc. in a never ending cycle until it is resolved. Balance the system. I hope this works out. I had similar problems on my initial grows, and I dedicate it all to shitty soil, inappropriate container size, over watering, and over feeding. Take care, bro and keep us posted. Cheers, dak
jumboSWISHER
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hey man =) i thought everyone forgot about me lol but the problems have passed
she has been looking really good, tho the older damaged leaves didnt repair themselves. but the new growth since then looks gorgous! a bit of molasses and 1/2 strength shultz ever other watering seems to be more of her likeing. but wow man thats some GREAT info! +rep forrsure. thanks alot man, although the problem has passed im possative ill use the advice in every grow in the future =) thanks alot for taking the time to help 
