watering guide

hi guys can anyone give me a guide for watering im hand feeding and i dont no how much to give them each day so far i have found out for first 2 weeks from cutting to give them 200ml each day 3rd week 300ml 4,5 and 6th week 400ml, can any1 give me a guide thanks
 

greensister

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Water them slowly until the soil is moist. Let the soil dry out a bit before watering again. Start 1/4 strength nutes when the third set of leaves appear. Increase the strength by 25% every week until you reach 100%. Water them slowly until the soil is moist. Let the soil dry out a bit before watering again.

Its basically that simple.
 

simpsonsampson420

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step 1) buy a moisture meter for 10 bucks....

step 2) wait until the moisture meter says dry and then water throughly..

step 3) wait until dry and repeat...

**it is a good idea to break up the top inch or two of soil when you go to water... hard top soil can make the water run straight to and down the sides of the pots.. breaking it will help make the water run through the pot and not just down the sides... also adding a drop or two of liquid NON SCENTED BIODEGRADABLE dish soap will help also..

start nutes when you see growth slowing/stopping or the plant begins to yellow...

start out with 1/4 strength as was said... increase over time... not neccisarily 25% each watering.. the plant may be growing slower than that.. try to feed based on the size and needs of the plant..

make sure not to over do it.. its always easier to add than to take away...

use cooler water.. it holds more dissolved oxygen which will make for happy roots....

i personally go with a water, feed, water, feed schedule with soil grows... thats what i used when i grew strictly soil.. and its what i use now with the couple soil plants i have.. unless i see the plants acting strangely i keep to this schedule.. some growers prefer a water, water, feed schedule... again.. base what you do on the need of your plant...
 

MrBlanco

Active Member
I take a more pragmatic approach. I slowly flood the top of the soil out until the planter feels about heavy enough then wait 5-10 minutes for drainage and add more as needed. I don't measure and I don't pay attention to how dry the medium looks, I just go by planter weight. My plants seem to be doing a lot better since I adopted this method.
 

naimad1234

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I take a more pragmatic approach. I slowly flood the top of the soil out until the planter feels about heavy enough then wait 5-10 minutes for drainage and add more as needed. I don't measure and I don't pay attention to how dry the medium looks, I just go by planter weight. My plants seem to be doing a lot better since I adopted this method.
that sounds pretty much like what i do. i let the plants tell me when they want water and food. never had a problem
 

T.H.Cammo

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I take a more pragmatic approach. I slowly flood the top of the soil out until the planter feels about heavy enough then wait 5-10 minutes for drainage and add more as needed. I don't measure and I don't pay attention to how dry the medium looks, I just go by planter weight. My plants seem to be doing a lot better since I adopted this method.
What he said! Let me expand a little.

Learning when to water is a knack that you just have to pick up on. "Overwatering" is a term that we hear often, and all too often it is misunderstood. Overwatering isn't about the "amount" of water - it's about the "frequency". Cannabis really does prefer "wet and dry" cycles. In other words - "Soak it good" (when it needs water), then "Let it get good and thirsty" (before you water again).

Once you get the hang of it, it's like riding a bicycle, but until then let's stick with "Plan - A" and "Plan - B".

Plan - A "Soak it good"
Start with a plant that "needs water", the surface will be dry and may have formed a sort of "skin" or light crust. That's ok, you can either brake it up or leave it alone - it really doesn't matter! The point is that you have to wet the whole surface evenly. I like to use a spray bottle with a medium-fine nozzle adjustment for this purpose. Spritz the surface evenly and well, it should soak in quickly, if it doesn't you need the grower's secret weapon "Liquid Dish Soap"(more on that later). If the water soaks right in, quickly, you don't really need to spray (I rather enjoy it myself!). Next comes the dreaded "Turkey Baster", I use this to deposit lots of little drops, spread out an inch or so apart over the whole surface. Each little drop forms it's own "puddle" and they should all soak in evenly. The reason for making sure the entire surface is evenly wetted is to avoid forming any "Dry Pockets" in the soil. If you have "several" plants, go around and do each step to all your plants before doing the next step. If you only have one or a couple of plants, wait a little bit between each step - that gives the water a chance to soak in, evenly! Keep adding water, a little at a time, slowly. The whole point here is to avoid letting the water make a "channel" that it just runs through, leaving isolated dry areas in the soil. After "a few" applications the pot should be thouroughly wetted and "Peeing" out through the drain holes (all the drain holes equally, not just one or two!). Ok, at this point the pot should be truely saturated -pick it up, feel how heavy it is? Get used to it! That "heavyness" is water!

Plan B "Let it get good and thirsty"
Ok, now you have a well watered plant. The first thing you will learn is that small pots dry out faster than big ones, plant or no plant! Get familiar with your plants! Pick them up and look close at them. Notice that as time passes, the pots get lighter - become aware of that process, get used to it! At some point the pot will get so light that you think "Surely the soil must be dry as a bone!" - that is probably a good time to water it again!
A good way to find out is to let the drying out process go a bit too far. On a day to day basis you "feel" the pot getting lighter, at the same time you are watching the plant for signs of "I'm thirsty!". When the plant first starts to droop a little, you know you have gone too far! Do this as a "One Time" experiment and your plant will be fine - but you know to water it before it gets this dry again!
Remember this, too much water just fills all the "Voids" in the soil and makes it impossible for oxygen to get down to the roots, that's a bad thing! A periodic drying, followed by an even saturation, causes the oxygen to get sucked down into the soil - as the water drains through it pulls fresh air behind it.

If your soil resists taking water evenly (if it "beads up" on the surface in some places) you need a "wetting agent". 2 or 3 drops of liquid dish soap in a quart (or litre) of water should be enough (it doesn't hurt the plant - just don't over do it!). And only use soap as often as needed.
This same mixture can be used to eliminate dry pockets. Put your pot inside another similar, empty, pot that has the drain holes blocked. Now, slowly, add the water (with a few drops of detergent per quart) until both pots are flooded. If any bubbles come up through the soil, wait for the bubbles to stop forming. Immediatly, remove the pot with soil in it. Let it drain well and let it stand a few minutes. Then, gently, replace the "plant pot" into the pot with the water in it - so that the drain holes just barely contact the water. Don't force the pot down into the water, just let it float and sink at it's own rate! This makes any dry pockets raise to the surface as "bubbles".
 

MrBlanco

Active Member
Hahaha, wow. That's the most in-depth explanation I've read for that! :D

I use a spray bottle without the sprayer and put my index finger over the opening to control the flow, the turn the pot to get water evenly around the surface. I give my plants a good soaking and like to get a lot of run-off. Then I let them sit in their run-off for a while to take care of any dry pockets I might have missed. I've found that experimenting on schwag bag seed has been really helpful because I don't really care if a mistake kills a plant.
 
i have been doing the soak well and let soil dry method, my plants are 4 weeks old and in 15 litre pots, when i soak them well they dont need watering again until like 2 days after is this ok, the 15 litre pots will hold alot of moisture in the soil wont they??
 

DoeEyed

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You're fine. Two days is not that long. I grow in 3 gallon buckets. Some of my plants like to drink every 3-4 days, and my vegging plants, while still young, will even go a week to ten days before being thirsty.
 

riddleme

Well-Known Member
What he said! Let me expand a little.

Learning when to water is a knack that you just have to pick up on. "Overwatering" is a term that we hear often, and all too often it is misunderstood. Overwatering isn't about the "amount" of water - it's about the "frequency". Cannabis really does prefer "wet and dry" cycles. In other words - "Soak it good" (when it needs water), then "Let it get good and thirsty" (before you water again).

Once you get the hang of it, it's like riding a bicycle, but until then let's stick with "Plan - A" and "Plan - B".

Plan - A "Soak it good"
Start with a plant that "needs water", the surface will be dry and may have formed a sort of "skin" or light crust. That's ok, you can either brake it up or leave it alone - it really doesn't matter! The point is that you have to wet the whole surface evenly. I like to use a spray bottle with a medium-fine nozzle adjustment for this purpose. Spritz the surface evenly and well, it should soak in quickly, if it doesn't you need the grower's secret weapon "Liquid Dish Soap"(more on that later). If the water soaks right in, quickly, you don't really need to spray (I rather enjoy it myself!). Next comes the dreaded "Turkey Baster", I use this to deposit lots of little drops, spread out an inch or so apart over the whole surface. Each little drop forms it's own "puddle" and they should all soak in evenly. The reason for making sure the entire surface is evenly wetted is to avoid forming any "Dry Pockets" in the soil. If you have "several" plants, go around and do each step to all your plants before doing the next step. If you only have one or a couple of plants, wait a little bit between each step - that gives the water a chance to soak in, evenly! Keep adding water, a little at a time, slowly. The whole point here is to avoid letting the water make a "channel" that it just runs through, leaving isolated dry areas in the soil. After "a few" applications the pot should be thouroughly wetted and "Peeing" out through the drain holes (all the drain holes equally, not just one or two!). Ok, at this point the pot should be truely saturated -pick it up, feel how heavy it is? Get used to it! That "heavyness" is water!

Plan B "Let it get good and thirsty"
Ok, now you have a well watered plant. The first thing you will learn is that small pots dry out faster than big ones, plant or no plant! Get familiar with your plants! Pick them up and look close at them. Notice that as time passes, the pots get lighter - become aware of that process, get used to it! At some point the pot will get so light that you think "Surely the soil must be dry as a bone!" - that is probably a good time to water it again!
A good way to find out is to let the drying out process go a bit too far. On a day to day basis you "feel" the pot getting lighter, at the same time you are watching the plant for signs of "I'm thirsty!". When the plant first starts to droop a little, you know you have gone too far! Do this as a "One Time" experiment and your plant will be fine - but you know to water it before it gets this dry again!
Remember this, too much water just fills all the "Voids" in the soil and makes it impossible for oxygen to get down to the roots, that's a bad thing! A periodic drying, followed by an even saturation, causes the oxygen to get sucked down into the soil - as the water drains through it pulls fresh air behind it.

If your soil resists taking water evenly (if it "beads up" on the surface in some places) you need a "wetting agent". 2 or 3 drops of liquid dish soap in a quart (or litre) of water should be enough (it doesn't hurt the plant - just don't over do it!). And only use soap as often as needed.
This same mixture can be used to eliminate dry pockets. Put your pot inside another similar, empty, pot that has the drain holes blocked. Now, slowly, add the water (with a few drops of detergent per quart) until both pots are flooded. If any bubbles come up through the soil, wait for the bubbles to stop forming. Immediatly, remove the pot with soil in it. Let it drain well and let it stand a few minutes. Then, gently, replace the "plant pot" into the pot with the water in it - so that the drain holes just barely contact the water. Don't force the pot down into the water, just let it float and sink at it's own rate! This makes any dry pockets raise to the surface as "bubbles".
Great advice, very similar to what have taught in my class, +rep
 

Kcannabis

Member
Thanks T.H. Cammo for the in depth explanation of that. I've been looking for something like that for a while. I just went to 3 gallon pots with my little plants and was having concerns with watering them. I never heard of the dish soap stuff until I read this thread. It's been 5 days since I watered. I watered mine on Monday and when I checked them today my moisture meter showed that most of them were still moist. My plants haven't started drooping yet either so I guess its just taking a while for the plants to suck up the moisture. The top 3 inches of the soil is dry though but below that it shows moist and some spots even wet. Should I wait until the very bottom of the pots are dry or would it be ok to water again? I just transplanted them and the roots systems are really only in the middle of the pot so I dunno if its even getting to the wet bottom stuff or not. Do you guys think I should wait until the leaves start drooping before watering again or what. I read the FAQ on this site about watering and it was confusing where it said for watering to water when the bottom is moist, middle is close to dry, and top is dry. And that is where im at now. Below is a quote from the link and here is the link. https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=88

The moisture meter's probe should be inserted to various depths to accurately assess conditions. The Rapidtest has a 1-4 scale on the meter, but what is imporatant is relative moisture. The lower potion of the medium in the container should not be so consistently and constantly moist as to "bury the needle" at the top of the scale. The middle depths of the container should be kept in the upper half section of the meter's range and the top should be allowed to dry out to the lower half of the range before rewatering.
 

biggun

Active Member
Yea in the beginning you stated you watered everyday, do like everyone say's here, Water your plants when they need it not necessarily on a fixed time schedule.. I have noticed sometimes I do not water but every third day... But then sometimes it's every 2nd day.... Learn to read your plants and you will be much more successful.... PEACE
 

richiesworld

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I have noticed sometimes I do not water but every third day... But then sometimes it's every 2nd day.... Learn to read your plants and you will be much more successful...
same here... learned to read my plants from spending time with the ladies and reading each plant's signs for thirst/hunger. as previously stated, only water when they are ready to drink and you'll be good to go...
 

Kcannabis

Member
same here... learned to read my plants from spending time with the ladies and reading each plant's signs for thirst/hunger. as previously stated, only water when they are ready to drink and you'll be good to go...
so how do you tell if your plants are ready to drink? a good explanation would be appreciated.
 

richiesworld

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so how do you tell if your plants are ready to drink? a good explanation would be appreciated.
here's 3 ways.
stick your finger into the dirt, maybe 2 - 3 inches... if it's dry - water
if the leaves look wilted - check dirt - water
if the pot seems really light when lifted - check dirt - water
there's usually a combination of these things that happen at the same time. too much wilting can be a bad thing, so don't let 'em get overly dry.

like i said before, i've spent lots of time in my grow areas with my plants and have learned them. just from watching them closely i can almost tell the "mood" they're in at certain times... watch and take notes of when you water and/or feed. look back at these notes and after a while you'll notice the patterns...
 

Kcannabis

Member
here's 3 ways.
stick your finger into the dirt, maybe 2 - 3 inches... if it's dry - water
if the leaves look wilted - check dirt - water
if the pot seems really light when lifted - check dirt - water
there's usually a combination of these things that happen at the same time. too much wilting can be a bad thing, so don't let 'em get overly dry.

like i said before, i've spent lots of time in my grow areas with my plants and have learned them. just from watching them closely i can almost tell the "mood" they're in at certain times... watch and take notes of when you water and/or feed. look back at these notes and after a while you'll notice the patterns...
what about if the top 3 inches of soil is dry but everything below that is moist/wet still? Should I water anyways or wait for the bottom stuff to dry out too? That's what im concerned about.
 

riddleme

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what about if the top 3 inches of soil is dry but everything below that is moist/wet still? Should I water anyways or wait for the bottom stuff to dry out too? That's what im concerned about.
best to go by the wieght of the pot when your first startin out

lift it (or even wiegh it) when dry get a feel for it, then water and lift it again, it will be heavier with water wieght

you want to water when there is 25 to 50% of the water left in the pot

it only takes a few times to get the hang of it
 

biggun

Active Member
Like I said learn to read you plants.. One of the best ways is like Riddleme said,, After you plant, feel the weight of your pot dry, and then water it and feel the difference.. When they feel dry water... Simple.....PEACE
 
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