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Silky Shagsalot

Silky Shagsalot

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axjnkee said:
So...what your saying is that grafting to get a multipul strain mother is not possible of even thought of? I dont think the poster gave a reason why, It seemed he was asking about the possability of grafting. No need to be such an ASSHOLE...was just askinfg a legit question, I thought thats what these forums were for....what a pompous ass.
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that's woo in a nutshell! if you don't agree with him or question him, you become an ass hole! he gave me bad rep cause i questioned him about the cloning of a leaf, which we all know is a waste of time. grafting one strain to another is also a waste of time.....
 
Woomeister

Woomeister

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Silky Shagsalot said:
that's woo in a nutshell! if you don't agree with him or question him, you become an ass hole! he gave me bad rep cause i questioned him about the cloning of a leaf, which we all know is a waste of time. grafting one strain to another is also a waste of time.....
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You speak for 'all'...lol! I have not called anyone in this thread any names Have I, I cant help it that people are so touchy. No offense was made to the other guy. As for you Silky...I dont ever remember neg repping you, in fact I wasn't even aware that I was ever able to so I cant really comment. You really ought to grow up a bit though and grow a thicker skin!:lol:
 
Woomeister

Woomeister

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axjnkee said:
I think your missing the obvious. This could be very useful if you want a variety of mother strains but have limited space in your mother room. Right now I have Alaskan Ice and the Church growing. I only have room enough for 1 mother plant. It would be cool if I could graft the church to the ice so I could clone both strains from 1 mother.
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You make this comment at the beginning of a statement and expect any help on the subject. YOU are obviously the expert at 18 years old with no rep and a few posts. :dunce: When you have researched grafting come back to me. Maybe then you can find out what a scion is!
 
Silky Shagsalot

Silky Shagsalot

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^^^typical woom responses.^^^ i need a thicker skin? you need a longer fuse, LOL! i speak for all who want to learn about growing weed, not rooting something that will "never" produce buds.............
 
fadrian

fadrian

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if you can have a mother with multiple strains grafted on that would be awesome, and it would save space
 
Woomeister

Woomeister

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This would be the best method of creating a multiple strain mother.


The distinguishing feature of approach grafting is that two independently growing, self-sustaining plants are grafted together. This self-sustaining characteristic of both plants which are to be grafted insures survival of both even if the grafting attempt is, for some reason, not successful. However odds of being successful are greatly enhanced because of the active growing condition of both plants involved and absence of a time limitation required for the healing of the graft union to occur before the dependent scion (top portion) dies from lack of sustenance.
The approach grafting procedure is as follows:
  2. Plant an adapted, growing plant as close to the base of the non-adapted variety as possible without extensively damaging the root structure of the established plant.
  3. From both plants closely position shoots which are at least three-eighths inch diameter and preferably close to the same size. At the point where the union is to occur, a slice of bark one to two inches long is peeled from both stems. The peeled area should be the same size on each.
  4. The two peeled surfaces are then bound tightly together with budding or electrical tape. Wrap completely with two complete covers around the area where the two peeled areas are in contact.
  5. Remove some of the top portion of the foliage from the adapted variety six to eight inches above the graft union. This will encourage a more rapid healing of the grafted union.
  6. The union should be complete in four weeks. This type of grafting is most successful if performed during growth season.
  7. After the parts are well united (4 weeks or more),the remainder of the top of the adapted, native variety can be cut off immediately above the graft union and the bottom or root system of the non-adapted, yellowing plant can be cut off immediately below the graft union.
  8. The graft union is now completed and the problems of iron chlorosis and indigenous soil pathogens have been solved if the proper rootstock has been used. Immediately after the portion of each plant is removed it may be necessary to reduce the leaf area of the top if wilting occurs because of lack of sufficient root system support. This situation will soon stabilize. If the only problem has been micronutrient (iron chlorosis) deficiency, the top, unadapted variety will not need to be detached from its own root system--the approach grafted, adapted variety root system will "feed" the sickly plant what it needs. However, if the purpose of the graft is to control soil borne diseases, the susceptible variety should be detached from its root system and become totally dependent on the root system of the adapted variety.
 
Silky Shagsalot

Silky Shagsalot

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i just read what woo posted above. he won't be seeing this cause i'm on her ignore list, lol. i'm a little loaded, but it made me think about the process. so you plant a rooted plant next to another plant??? i don't get it! isn't the graftee gonna just morph into the grafter? what if the 2 have different feeding requirements??? it sounds cool, but it doesn't sound like anything other than an experiment. i'll have to go back and re-read when i'm, ahem, less not high.........
 
fadrian

fadrian

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Silky Shagsalot said:
i just read what woo posted above. he won't be seeing this cause i'm on her ignore list, lol. i'm a little loaded, but it made me think about the process. so you plant a rooted plant next to another plant??? i don't get it! isn't the graftee gonna just morph into the grafter? what if the 2 have different feeding requirements??? it sounds cool, but it doesn't sound like anything other than an experiment. i'll have to go back and re-read when i'm, ahem, less not high.........
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that link is sweet
 
axjnkee

axjnkee

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smppro said:
Grafting for multistrain mother
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=148101

Grafting
http://www.gardenscure.com/420/propagation/113580-grafting-marijuana-plants-2.html
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Tthanks for the link bro. That is what these forums are for, helping each other. Not for being a jerk to someone who is less knowlegable looking for info. I'm starting the OSU horticulture program later this month, and when I finish I will be more than happy to help anyone I can on these forums with advanced gardening without being a complete jackass.

And Woo,.... If you didn't come off as such a pompous ASS, I would have started my post as Your missing the obvious...
 
Woomeister

Woomeister

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axjnkee said:
Tthanks for the link bro. That is what these forums are for, helping each other. Not for being a jerk to someone who is less knowlegable looking for info. I'm starting the OSU horticulture program later this month, and when I finish I will be more than happy to help anyone I can on these forums with advanced gardening without being a complete jackass.

And Woo,.... If you didn't come off as such a pompous ASS, I would have started my post as Your missing the obvious...
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The way I come across is the way you choose, it was not my intention. Your are the one calling people 'jackass' and 'pompous'.

Silky seeing as you were quoted I could see your post and for your information: Google 'approach method grafting' and you will see that this method is extensively used and the most successful for the desired intention. For yours and others information I have a degree in Botany and horticulture and sometimes I may get annoyed with some responses but my intentions are good. The issue with this site is that some people insist that things are not possible on the basis of opinions rather than fact-that winds me up.:bigjoint:
 
supertank

supertank

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Woomeister said:
The way I come across is the way you choose, it was not my intention. Your are the one calling people 'jackass' and 'pompous'.

Silky seeing as you were quoted I could see your post and for your information: Google 'approach method grafting' and you will see that this method is extensively used and the most successful for the desired intention. For yours and others information I have a degree in Botany and horticulture and sometimes I may get annoyed with some responses but my intentions are good. The issue with this site is that some people insist that things are not possible on the basis of opinions rather than fact-that winds me up.:bigjoint:
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well from what i can gather woo is a hort interlect and if you are like me and enjoy the importance of plant health and structure then woo is good ther is no crap with him just straight awsers ! witch is great if you cant be botherd with imature crap...........:cuss::wall:
 
pseudo judo

pseudo judo

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Woo this is a great idea and id love to see how it turns out, Im gonna be doing this too so why u hating.

the image woo loaded was of approach grafting but the original poster would need cleft grafting to make a mother with multiple strains.

No point in being knowledgeable if ur an ignoramus.
 
Woomeister

Woomeister

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pseudo judo said:
Woo this is a great idea and id love to see how it turns out, Im gonna be doing this too so why u hating.

the image woo loaded was of approach grafting but the original poster would need cleft grafting to make a mother with multiple strains.

No point in being knowledgeable if ur an ignoramus.
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more name callling and misunderstanding it would seem...sad really.:wall:

Cleft grafting is a highly sensitive method and depending on the circumference of each meristem things can go wrong very easily. With approach grafting you can 'bond' two plants initially with very little risk of things going wrong. Once two plants become one you can repeat until you have a set of different genetics all on one plant. Once the original two are joined and growing strongly you can remove one root sytem so the plant is running of just the one, so allowing a one pot grow. You do this by cutting the main stem just below the graft site, you end up with a plant that looks like its been topped.
 
pseudo judo

pseudo judo

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Yea sorry woo after looking into it more i see that your method of approach grafting would also work but many of the other techniques such as cleft and saddle should also work.

each have there own disadvantages and advantages and i can see how approach grafting would reduce the risk of wilting during the healing process.

Although ive since seen that cleft grafting is not a very successful method due to the reasons you stated, do you think it would work with saddle grafting?

O got my info from stephenhayesUK's channel on youtube, it was in relation to apple trees
 
Woomeister

Woomeister

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Pseudo: I have only used cleft and approach methods, there is no reason why it couldnt be possible. Eperimentation is the key to new discoveries.
 
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