Bagseed. First grow attempt

[prebs]

Ok so here it goes. This is my first attempt at growing and basically just a learning grow.

So far its a pretty ghetto set up in my house and I may have to move it into my dorm eventually. I have an overhead lamp holding 3 cfl lights and a fan set up on the wall blowing the lights and plant. Around the pot I have this thick paper my mom had in the basement, white on the inside for reflection of the lights.

I first germinated my seeds in a wet paper towel in a cup in the closet for 2 or 3 days till they had a nice 1/4" root on them and planted 3 seeds in pots. I think I stunted 2 of the plants growth accidentally so only 1 remains, which is fine since I have a very limited space to work with.

So here's the set up first off

 

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By the way. Im growing in miracle grow potting soil. And I know, miracle grow basically sucks but it's all I have to work with right now.

I had a slight problem at the beginning with the tips of the leaves yellowing but that was due to a nute burn from the miracle grow, and thank you for those that helped with it

This is after a few days

 

[prebs]

Ok. So then after comparing and all. I realized my baby wasn't growing well and I think it's due to my low watt CFL's I had in. So a few hours ago I went out and bought 2 clamp reflector light cases and a pack of 23watt 27k cfl and a pack of 23watt 65k cfl. So we'll see how this baby grows after I plus all these in. Also, I may be moving my set up to a little storage area in my attic but Im thinking of a simple yet effective set up and I also need to check the temperatures in there.


This is her this morning. Before I bought the new cfl's

 

[smokebros]

good luck with the grow bro

 

[dinkydigger]

use a bluer light spectrum for you lights..go with a 6500k..that will help..plus you don't need that much light right now in the seedling stage...the miracle grow soil at such a young age is going to stress them and could stunt them...

 

[prebs]

use a bluer light spectrum for you lights..go with a 6500k..that will help..plus you don't need that much light right now in the seedling stage...the miracle grow soil at such a young age is going to stress them and could stunt them...

Yeah I figured the miracle grow is fairly bad for it and Im currently searching around trying to find some really good but cheap soil.

But as for the lights. I bought the 27k cfl's to use for flowering later on. I was thinking setting up 2 65k and 1 27k? Sound good? or just all 3 65k?

 

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Alright. Got the new cfl's set up and I decided to change the grow area and set one up in this cupboard, tv shelf thing I have in my room. This set up is more for efficiency than stealth but it will definitely help there too. Took a few hours to clean out and set up but I'm quite proud of it. However I do have light leaking out the top and slightly on the side of the door and idk what to use to close the little gaps. Any ideas?

Also, criticism and tips and everything would be greatly appreciated. Thanks


Well here's the new set up

 

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.......bump

 

[sagensour]

ill give it a bump. check my shit out. type in kushberry in the search. im growin that with green crack. im here for the ride man

 

[dinkydigger]

a little bit of a light leak won't hurt..unless you are trying to be stealth...but yeah the set up looks good for a one plant grow..good luck man

 

[prebs]

Awesome, thanks guys. And yeah it would help if I could stop the light leak just in case someone decides to go upstairs into my room, but I don't see any reason why they would. All I have to do is set up the exhaust and air intake area's too keep it cooler and get some fresher air in. But Ill start another grow up with at least 2 plants in there in the summer time

 

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Ok. She's looking real good. Ill get pictures tomorrow. I just have too go out and buy Y splitters and add more lights, if I can find the damn splitters. Question to anyone actually reading this though. I have her on a 18/6 light cycle right now. Would it have been or be better to have her on a 24 hour light period instead?


Haha. Speaking of the light leak before. I had my buddy over and he was searching my whole room for my plant but didn't even notice the cabinet. And, just had a group of friends over and chillin in the room and none of them noticed anything, so were good there

 

[stonerbeans]

looking good man. and yes i just read it all haha. Keep it going, and good luck. One thing i noticed is how close you have those lights, you can burn leaves like that and also it doesn't give the plant anything to stretch to so it will stay real small so just keep those things in mind

 

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Ok, quick update. Jill is looking like a gorgeous little plant right now and although I believe she may have been stunted in the beginning due to the nutes in miracle grow, shes growing fairly nicely now, especially with the new cfl's. I moved the lights back a bit last night cause I did notice a little burn spot on one of the leaves . Thank you stonerbeans by the way.

But all is going well so far. Thinking about getting some yeast and sugar water to create a little extra CO2 in the cabinet and help her grow a bit. If not, then a little baking soda and vinegar. haha

Here she is, and on the first picture, you can kinda see the burn spot from the light

 

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So I watered my plants last night and had them nicely watered and for some stupid reason I added a little more water, ended up being too much of course. And the nutes release in the soil so there are some nute burns on two of the leaves. im going to take a week off from watering to see how she looks and tells me that she's thirsty so I can learn from her some more.

But I found the Y splitters finally and set them up so now I have 4x23w 6500k and 1x23w 2700k cfl's. Ill get pic's up tomorrow. Gotta work tonight. Peace, and comments would be great.

 

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Update for anyone following. Jill has grown a lot more in the past 2 or 3 days which is excellent. She's fairly short and bushy right now so I may step the lights off a tiny bit.. Although I would prefer her small for now due to time and space constraints. And as I said before in a quick update, the yellow marks on the lower leaves are nute burns from the miracle grow soil, and i realize that. Ive been careful with the watering and trying to prevent it from happening again.

Although I have a question for anyone that would like to help me out. I want to test out LST on her. Is now a good time to start or should I wait more and get her longer? As you see in the last picture, she's tilting a bit to one side. Also, her stem has gotten pretty hard, so could i just kinda push it down without bending it and risk breaking it?

But please feel free to comment, criticize, and give tips

 

[Concord Dawn]

DOES THIS HELP?

Let's look at the other type of high stress training: stem mutilation. Now, there are interesting theories, methods and discussions invovling both the science and application of this type of training. This type of training is known by many different names:

-Crushing the herd
-Supercropping
-Stem-smashing
-Leaning the stem over

All of them have the same general idea: mutilate the stem evenly around an area so that the stem bends over at a 90 degree angle. In this case, we aren't removing a piece of the plant, but rather damaging an area of the plant so that the angle of the branch changes.

The most common methodology for crushing the stem is to pinch the stem enough that it breaks and separates a bit. Then, turn your pinch by 90 degrees and pinch again. This will cause the tip of the plant to fall over at an angle.

Supercropping can be done during vegetative growth to achieve effects similar to LST. That is: the apical tip will be bent downwards once the branch has been pinched. This causes the plant to think that it needs to send new tips to grow towards the light source.

Supercropping can also be done during flower to keep those stretchy plants from burning themselves. There are plenty of examples of supercropping well into flower w/out having too adverse of an effect on the plant:
pic

Obviously, some strains will respond better than others. In addition, if you supercrop well into flower and you have some heavy budsites, you may find the stem has troubles supporting itself. Be smart about it and don't crush the stems too hard if you don't think the plant will grow out of it.

Let's check the pros and cons of this type of training:
-Pros

1. Not as stressful as removing plant parts
2. Less worry of failure
3. Not as prone to infection
4. Quick and easy

-Cons

1. Somewhat inprecise
2. Can have a learning curve
3. Changes for different strains

 

[Unnk]

Update for anyone following. Jill has grown a lot more in the past 2 or 3 days which is excellent. She's fairly short and bushy right now so I may step the lights off a tiny bit.. Although I would prefer her small for now due to time and space constraints. And as I said before in a quick update, the yellow marks on the lower leaves are nute burns from the miracle grow soil, and i realize that. Ive been careful with the watering and trying to prevent it from happening again.

Although I have a question for anyone that would like to help me out. I want to test out LST on her. Is now a good time to start or should I wait more and get her longer? As you see in the last picture, she's tilting a bit to one side. Also, her stem has gotten pretty hard, so could i just kinda push it down without bending it and risk breaking it?

But please feel free to comment, criticize, and give tips

their loooking good mang good things can come from bagseed

 

[prebs]

Yeah man, bagseed can really surprise you. And specially with a mix of heads and mids from the past 6 months of smoking. Itll be interesting to see how this baby turns out.

And thanks C Dawn. That did help. Although, Id be scared as hell to break my baby's stem. Maybe Ill try and lean her over more the way she's already leaning and tie her down, see how that goes

 

[Concord Dawn]

And thanks C Dawn. That did help. Although, Id be scared as hell to break my baby's stem. Maybe Ill try and lean her over more the way she's already leaning and tie her down, see how that goes

no prob bro, i think im gonna just top mine to start with, seems safe enough to me to try that first, LoL, thanks man