Can i run an areo 24/7 pump on

[panta]

What up Pantera?

Watchin' out for root rot.

I like your idea with the 6". I'm interested in running a similar type setup. Did you end up going with the green sewer pipe? What are the length of your grow chambers? I wanted to use black 6"abs for mine, but it was Wayyy too expensive. I think I'll end up using the green 14' sticks, like Earl used in his setup.
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What size pots are you using in that system? (2" or 3.5")

I can only speak from thorough research on the subject of running your pump. btw, what pump did you end up using for this system?

Cycle timers are an expensive little unit; about 80 bucks, but like smppro mentioned the goal here is to get your roots just enough moisture, the more air the better so its worth the price to be able to fine tune your system. With this timer, not only do you save energy but also allow your plant to "breath" o2 more frequently.

If you can; use the timer....
As far as water collecting in your system just raise one end of your pipe system up by 1/4" per foot of pipe. This will insure proper drainage toward the reservoir. What up with some pictures of your progress?

here the pics for this setup,2inch pots,i got the dams in the pipes so if the pump fails the plants can survive,the other 2 pics are ebb and flow and mediumless ebb and flow i made,can somebody tell em how long can the plants survive in a regular aero system in case the pump goes out

 

[streetlegal]

here the pics for this setup,2inch pots,i got the dams in the pipes so if the pump fails the plants can survive,the other 2 pics are ebb and flow and mediumless ebb and flow i made,can somebody tell em how long can the plants survive in a regular aero system in case the pump goes out

Panta i wouldnt use dams personally but if it works then good for u but i wouldnt have my roots sitting in it for extended periods so cycle frequently.. apparently, the norm is to use some mateirial lining the bottom of ur channels, like silk screen etc seeing that u use pipes then i suppose that would be difficult.

 

[fatman7574]

The same matting that is used in NTF troughs should also be used in aero tubes. Silk screen cloth works fine. The matting allows much more water to move under and through the root mass laying in the tube bottom. The sprayers should spray intermittant. The timing depends on the size of the roots masses. The roots should always be moist, never wet and never under water. There is no way to prevent root rot entirely as oxygen diffuses poorly through water and root masses. Pythium problems can only be fully prevented by eliminating Pyth cells. Typically that means using chlorine regularly.

Let the objections flow.

ps Oh my god I posted the same thing as streetleagal. The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

 

[streetlegal]

The same matting that is used in NTF troughs should also be used in aero tubes. Silk screen cloth works fine. The matting allows much more water to move under and through the root mass laying in the tube bottom. The sprayers should spray intermittant. The timing depends on the size of the roots masses. The roots should always be moist, never wet and never under water. There is no way to prevent root rot entirely as oxygen diffuses poorly through water and root masses. Pythium problems can only be fully prevented by eliminating Pyth cells. Typically that means using chlorine regularly.

Let the objections flow.

ps Oh my god I posted the same thing as streetleagal. The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

fuck you fatman hahaha.. nah ur alrite by me believe it or not, i like alot of ur info.. except u ignored one of my questions i directed at u kinda makes me feel sad...but watcha gonna do

 

[fatman7574]

That is probably beacuse you asked why I was such an ass hole or something like that. I have already as answered that question many times.

 

[streetlegal]

That is probably beacuse you asked why I was such an ass hole or something like that. I have already as answered that question many times.

No, nope.. it was on sherriberrys thread asking wot ur thoughts were on a True Aero set-up with all the bells and whistles that i found for sale page13 post no. 125 AND page14 post no.135.. i asked u twice..

 

[fatman7574]

No, nope.. it was on sherriberrys thread asking wot ur thoughts were on a True Aero set-up with all the bells and whistles that i found for sale page13 post no. 125 AND page14 post no.135.. i asked u twice..

And I think I answered that when I went to the link you provided I got an advertisement that listed many different items and I had no idea which item to look at. If you can post a link to the excat item I could look at I never have a problem voicing an opinion. I am very well know for being opinionated.

 

[aerodoit]

Yea a cap timer can be bought most places for around $85, another thing that shorteninig your watering time can do is drop your res temp which is good for most grows.

I almost bought a timer just for the reason of lowering my res temp. I called GH
and they recommended I get a chiller instead. I also put a little 6" fan directly blowing on the pump and my temp went from like 80 to 68. I have thought about putting the pump on a timer still to save power, but its hard to do that when some ofmy plants are growing 3-4" a day. I feel if it not broke dont fix it. I havent had a problem with roots at all.

 

[rascal]

sup yall? my 0.2 i keep me sprayers(lazerlines) on 247 cuz they are what oxygenate the water they make a really lite mist in the tubes better i think then actual misters (like ez clone misters)i also keep my drain tubes allthe way down even before roots are touching bottom. temps from 65 to 68 /
using mats sounds interesting a screen at bottoms of tubes sounds like a good idea to help spread roots out give ur bennies a place to colonize. to combat pyth i would think u must have some good root fungi and bacteria to protect roots keep temps under 69 or do sterile runs with h202 r flora shield,i use to flush using clearx and h202 then run nutes and 02 fr 24 hrs then add bennies but i dont any more because i think im doing more damage buy killing my colonized bennies then leaving the plnt more vulnerable while bennies re colonize hm i wonder if my logic is sound . i guess with out the proper lab equipment ill never know unless some one knows who has done the research ...haha ok ill stop rambling now

 

[panta]

what if i let the bennies colonize the roots for a week and then set a uv light in the rez. that would fight off the root rot and the BB can sti;ll live on the roots couse the uv only affect the water

 

[streetlegal]

what if i let the bennies colonize the roots for a week and then set a uv light in the rez. that would fight off the root rot and the BB can sti;ll live on the roots couse the uv only affect the water

Well oxygenated roots gets big yields boys, id advise all of u to be running a dry cycle with ur timers SERIOUSLY.. sure wot u got is working but u can do better.. Panta, fuck the bacteria, dose with plenty of h2o2, uv stick is a good idea too and fuck if u got a chiller then ur laughing!

 

[fatman7574]

Sure, if you want scraggly plants and tiny yields.

I see lots of bad info here.

Check my posts and journal on IC.

Trash talker.

Post info or simply be a good child and just read. Nothing wrong with this thread but your non productive post. If yu have no info to add just be a good child and read instead of mumbling baseless complaints.

 

[aerodoit]

I have never had a problem with root rot at all. I have a aeroflo 60, ebb n grow, and a DWC system. I would have to say the one I like the least is DWC. I run my pump on my aeroflo 24/7, I have only had w/t and ph problems from it. The w/t I fixed with a chiller and a mini fan blowing on the pump. The ph problem I think was for two reasons: poor cleaning of hydroton which was my fault and the stupid coco cups that came with the aeroflo. Now that I have clones from the plants back in the aeroflo with no coco cups and thoroughly cleaned aeroflo. I have not had a problem with either. I had to get different net pots with smaller holes so the pebbles would not fall through, but I think that was money well spent. The roots look so much healthier and white without the coco. Thanks again fatman for the input before when I was having problems.That was a few weeks of alt of frustration and reading. Kinda set cruise control and cruising on the freeway now.